Oof I think this service is only worth it if you have a family plan and everyone helping. That is how I personally make it reasonable in terms of pricing.
Nebula has a lot of the better YT content and costs much less than that.
Even better if you got in on the CuriositySteam + Nebula bundle for $20/yr.
Gripping tight onto my initial grandfathered price from Google play music. $8
How? I had the same plan and got an email saying they wouldn’t honor the grandfathered plan and I was still being upped. I think they gave me an extra month or two at the lower rate and that was it.
Are you non-American? Seems like only Americans get any kind of deal. Rest of the world gets the middle finger.
No clue but never received an email. I’m a day 1 subscriber though.
Yeah. I’ve still got my $10 a month price for YouTube Red.
I have the $10 price from Google Play Music and just got an email saying they were jacking my price to $14, but because I’ve been such a long-time user they’re giving me until December.
Just woke up this morning to the same email.
Definitely wasn’t worth it before and now they want to increase prices? Yikes. Guess I’ll keep using revanced forever then
I’ve been sailing the last few years so far out, I can’t see the land anymore. And kinda don’t care about land anymore…
You mean to tell me there is actual land? I thought we were in Waterworld?
Ah, we have Waterworld. In HD. Ya… there is an island still, we call it Spotify on our boat. We couldn’t do without our shanties… But we do have a sea cave ready tho, when those Privateers become greedy.
This shit should be included with YouTube premium
Huh? The ad revenue it replaces can’t be more than $1/month.
youtube-dlp is the solution!
yt-dlp. Just “yt” rather than “youtube”.youtube-dlis an ancestor program ofyt-dlp.
I can somewhat understand Hulu and Netflix raising prices because of video content licensing but Youtube Premium? Fucking stupid as hell.
YouTube has also been increasing its ads for free.
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But I think they will cut access without ads soon enough, and I do agree someone needs to pay for the service.
My problem is quality of the platform went down with higer quality of production. Those with better production are doing better than those with quality content. Additionally it started looking like TV network with dozen big shows, and not enough random content. Ex. they always recommend me videos with 1M+ views, even thou a I want only ones with less than 100k.
I have been dusting of my podcast players for some time. I like to have a video, but looks like price is too high for me. Audio will be good.
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Correct.
Pi hole does not work for YouTube (or Twitch or many others). It doesn’t work for services who distribute ads from their own servers.
If you had Android instead of iOS you may have been able to use an ad-free youtube client and cast to TV, but if you’re streaming on the TV, or from iOS, I don’t know how you’d go about blocking ads.
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I think the best solution right now for older Chromecast (ones without a dedicated remote) is running castblock on a raspberry pi or something else attached to your network. It doesn’t block ads but it can automatically mute the chromecast volume when ads are playing, as well as automatically hit the skip button when it shows up (maybe like 5% of the time it misses both but still better than nothing). It also looks up sponsor segments from sponsorblock and detects when a sponsor is about to play and can skip those too. It auto detects all Chromecast on the network so all you have to do is run the program with the flags for what features you want enabled / what sponsorblock segments it should skip.
If you have a Chromecast with Google TV (with like a remote control and apps) I’ve heard smarttube-next is a good alternative app with ad blocking.
I’m not sure what works with TVs that have Chromecast built in, might also be smarttube-next. I only have the Chromecast ultra and the older standard Chromecast and castblock works great running on my pihole box
Yeah… not much you can do beyond DNS-based blocking for most dumb SmartTV OSes and obviously sideloading iOS apps sucks if you’re not jailbroken. Cases like these are really where they get you!
Regarding Chromecasts, just in case anyone’s interested: they’re still Android under the hood, so you can simply send the Revanced Manager APK via Send files to TV and proceed as usual. FYI: you need to enable developer mode (see step 3, specfically) to install custom APKs – this won’t impact your warranty.
Am I the only one who isn’t completely outraged by 50 cents per day?
I’m not outraged at all. Just more perplexed as someone who doesn’t pay for it, since increasing price doesn’t incentivize me more to get it. Not sure why in terms of features it doesn’t have something that might make it worth it for those who haven’t bothered like return of YouTube dislikes and bringing back the ability to group channels together. Which really helps when you have an overactive channel that is putting out too much content and suppressing your smaller channels which leads you to unsubscribe from them.
Once they got rid of channel groupings was when I started using YouTube logged in less and less and now I use newpipe which does have channel groupings. Oh another thing is no control over stuff like youtube shorts. They really should give paid users an ability to block that off and auto convert short videos into normal videos so it isn’t looping without video controls. Other than ads it just feels lacking in additional customization for what is called a premium service. Even control over thumbnails so it replaces them with a screen cap from the video should be provided for premium users. YouTube is such an obnoxious delivery system by default. Provide ability to block channels too.
In fairness, it’s not just 50 cents per day, it’s yet another streaming service that’s increasing prices.
And it’s all well and good saying “you don’t have to buy it”, but these streaming companies are starting to get aggressive with squeezing money out of people.
Google in particular is trying to crack down on ad blockers, and trying to force more ads at the same time.
There’s a lot of fatigue going around with everyone trying to sell you on their subscription service, “it’s only x cents a day” becomes much more annoying when every facit of life also apparently needs to cost you X cents
Just as Gaben once said, piracy is almost always a service problem, not a pricing problem.
It’s not that we can’t afford it, we just don’t like getting treated as cash cows and idiots. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile, and before you know it, everything will be locked behind paywalls.
What is the point of Youtube Premium anyway?
I’ve had premium for so long now that I forget youtube has ads and when my friends try and play anything I am shocked at how shitty the experience is.
No ads on devices where you can’t block ads (like WebOS or Tizen TVs), and cba to circumvent it with newpipe on android stick or something
Also youtube music for some people I guess
About WebOS: https://github.com/webosbrew/youtube-webos
Adblock + SponsorBlock, works great! I installed it using the Device Manager app instructions
Block ads without having to use an AdBlocker, but like who doesn’t use an AdBlocker these days
On mobile it allows you to continue playing videos when you close the app
And a recent addition they’ve added to it for mobile is the ability to fucking queue videos
Yeah, Adblocker is part of internet security. Just using a regular search engine these days can be risky with the sponsored links that can lead to people going to the wrong site.
but like who doesn’t use an AdBlocker these days
Hard to do from a game console or Chromecast, which happen to be the two methods I use most often for watching YouTube.
If you got an apple device safari is fantastic when it comes to just air playing YouTube videos without ads. Sponsorblock extension works too and skips them. No messing around with third party apps installs.
Although, I’m not sure if consoles or chrome cast have airplay support.
If you use the older Chromecast dongle that doesn’t have android TV and no remote (the circular ones) you should be able to use castblock to auto mute ads and automatically press the skip button as soon as it shows up. It also has sponsorblock support so it will auto skip sponsor segments too. You just have to run the program on the same network with flags specifying you want it to mute ads, skip ads, and give it the list of sponsorblock segment types to skip and it’ll auto detect any Chromecasts and do it’s auto skipping and muting magic
On my Chromecast, I use this wonderful app: SmartTube
It means the creators I enjoy actually get paid, whereas with adblock they don’t get any ad revenue.
I can skip the middleman and pay the creators via Patreon or whatever, no?
Careful. People here got angry at Linus from LMG when he said it’s important for creators to make money to continue paying their massive staff and bring more content.
The creators will see jack shit of that price increase. It’s all going into exec’s pockets. The smart ones all have Patreon or other ways of monetising their content anyway.
You may be surprised to hear that the revenue split on Premium is the same as the split on Ads: 55% of all Premium money goes directly to creators on a member viewership basis. Alphabet increasing the price of Premium does increase the money going to Youtube corporate, but the revenue structure is fundamentally designed so that creators also receive an equal raise.
Sorry, I don’t see what this has to do with my comment? I was answering the question “What is the point of Youtube Premium anyway?” and said nothing about the price increase.
- No ads.
- Background play.
- Download videos
- YouTube Music Premium included
First one makes it worth it for me. Have you seen how many ads some videos have? It’s insane. Not interested in watching 8+ minutes of ads in a 45 minute video.
I know there are plugins, alternative apps, etc. to get the same stuff free, but I just prefer paying and never having to worry about any apps or plugins breaking. I just know it’ll be a perfect experience every time.
At this point it’s less about cost than it is about doing something against rampant collection of personal data no one should have any business looking at.
I don’t see any problem if people see value in that subscription and want to pay it. But the fact that you pay and they still siphon the same metric fuck ton of data to monetize for themselves really shouldn’t be okay.
Now, if they were transparent about this, asked the user for consent, who then agrees, then it’s obviously fair game. But doing this any other way should never be acceptable.
I don’t know if new plans still come with YouTube music but mine does. That plus ad free YouTube on device.
You can download videos with it, which is quite useful for train rides or flights.
Objectively, Youtube Premium is the one streaming service that I actually use… with youtube dlp because actually I can’t stand the interface at all anymore; but even so, I use it and I feel ok about paying for it.
Why do you have a subscription and use YouTube dlp, doesn’t that just download the video whether you have a subscription or not?
“YouTube Vanced” on my phone (Pixel 7 Pro) and then use “Smart Tube Next” on my Sony Bravia Android TV, I’d happily pay for just Ad-free YouTube but I refuse to pay for YouTube music bundled into it.
Wow! It was hardly worth it to begin with.
Feels like one of the best value subscriptions to me?
I use YouTube more than most streaming services and it helps support creators
I use smartTube ony my TV (with sponsorblock integrated), LibreTube and newPipe on my phone (no ads, and download included), and YouTube + adguard, sponsorblock, unhook, dislike button extensions on my Desktoo. With all that effort, i do not need paying for Youtube premium.
