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This is the wedge issue that splits Latin America and East Asia away from the usual consensus

  • From my experience in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium, this is a terrible map lol. I’ve never been in a house that asked me to take shoes off in those countries. I usually do because I find it nasty as shit to walk around with shoes and hate when people do at my house (I pretty much only let friends with high shoes/heels during events, because that’s something they are actively trying to do to their image). But the fact that those countries aren’t blue or green is very suspicious.

    • johnbrown1917 [he/him]
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      72 years ago

      yeah, netherlands is fake.

      Shoes on is standard in most homes, although I had some classmates who had a shoes-off policy in grade school.

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    472 years ago

    what is meant by “shoes” here? Like, do people in the US walk around their homes in same shoes they wear outside?

    • borlax [he/him]
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      Exactly… it wasn’t until I lived on my own in more culturally diverse areas that I realized how gross it is and made my home a shoes off home.

      I’ve also moved towards changing my clothes before getting comfortable in my own house. I don’t want outside clothes on my couch. This is a little unrealistic if you host people, but I still operate like that for myself.

    • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]
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      Yeah a lot of houses will wear outside shoes inside. There is a decent number of people who don’t do shoes in the house, though.

        • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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          I live here and: its bad.

          I’m going to end up being one of the “overbearing” people that insists people take their shoes off I think, as I get older. I had a few people over and none of them took their shoes off this summer and they tracked dirt and shit all over that I then had to clean up. And I’m definitely no neat freak, not at all, but I don’t want rocks and dirt and road salt and puddles and etc all over my floors, I walk on those floors, mostly barefoot or in socks.

          maybe its less bad in places that don’t get much snow or rain and have perfectly manicured sidewalks (lol) but idk that still means trashing your floors or carpets with grit and tracking nasty road dust inside and such, I don’t get why anyone would ever lol

          I take my shoes off even when people insist I don’t have to, unless its somehow so dirty that I really need them. it’s just wrong lol, They don’t know where my shoes have been

          I think maybe it comes from many people in the US driving everywhere. Your shoes only touch the parking lot/driveway, and only briefly, whats the big deal. If you’re only ever going from your own garage to another indoor parking garage even moreso.

          • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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            62 years ago

            My grandparents (both sides) live in sort of rural areas where their shoes definitely get dirty, so they’re a shoes off house.

            My parents live in the manicured environment you describe. Their shoes only touch clean pavement and floors, so they keep their shoes on in the house often.

            • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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              Yeah I think it must be a factor. Though some people also just get their shit dirty all the time and don’t care if the flooring gets trashed.

              Frankly my mental health couldn’t withstand such an inane life in such a manicured environment, I don’t think. I live in a city, and my shoes definitely still get dirty lol, because I actually go places that don’t have parking garages, or (gasp) even walk/bike places, or go off the sidewalk onto some grass on occasion. Or snow

          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            I’ve always associated removing shoes at a house with like, upper middle class suburbanites and overbearing religious sorts, because those are the only ones I ever saw expect it growing up.

            • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]
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              132 years ago

              I find that with bougie surbanites its like a flip of a coin if they do or don’t take off shoes. I’ve mostly seen it in Asian households tbh.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      72 years ago

      Fwiw it’s situationally dependent in my experience. I don’t wear outdoor shoes in my own home, and I don’t know anyone who does. Visiting family or close friends, I probably take my shoes off for most occasions. A social gathering at someone’s house I don’t know well, then shoes definitely on.

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    222 years ago

    if you leave your shoes on when you walk into my home i’m handing you a mop and broom and putting you to work

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    62 years ago

    i like how people say “you walk through piss and shit and wear shoes in the house!”

    i can’t say im walking through piss and shit very often so that’s hilarious. also i have hardwood floors, if i had carpet i’d be more prone to taking them off. if i was just downtown where bums piss, i take those off.

  • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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    62 years ago

    Shoes Off considered rude

    I can understand shoes on being a norm for some cultures, but shoes OFF considered rude? Looks like it’s just Mediterranean Euros and their former colonies so maybe Latins are super sensitive to feet stank?

  • i grew up disgusting and repulsive, a flea-bitten, mud-eating barbarian without literacy or language, but my direct and amicable exposure to the peoples of western asia and the far east reformed me greatly.

    i now use a bidet and take my shoes off in the house.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    352 years ago

    Shoes On is not the norm in the UK this map is so fucking wrong lmao.

    It’s Shoes Off literally everywhere in the country.

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          Kebab isn’t but falafel and hummus are! When I’ve traveled in North/West Europe, I found kebab shops were a reliable source of cheap vegan food.

      • huf [he/him]
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        22 years ago

        yeah but hungary is also mostly shoes off, and we dont have enough immigrants for this to be caused by them.

        i’d expect countries that historically orbited the HRE to be maybe shoes off? i dunno.