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Netflix says people just kind of rolled over and accepted the password sharing crackdown::Netflix subscriptions are up almost 6 million this quarter, suggesting we’re all just too exhausted to fight this stuff
Given how unbelievably self righteous Netflix’s users were about this, and the colossal amount of whingeing, I’m actually glad it didn’t work.
I stayed because the policy is irrelevant to me and my wife since neither of us have friends to share it with.
I get upset about a lot of things, but the end of password sharing isn’t one of them. Complaining about it is just about the most privileged, entitled thing I can imagine.
Yeah, while I have no problem with people who just ran extra lines to their neighbours so they could get free cable, there’s an unsaid but obvious “of course the cable company understandably doesn’t approve and will shut that down if they can find out it’s happening and might even go after the others for back subscriptions”.
Corporate overreach sucks but this is not an example of that. My position on this is being surprised they allowed it for so long and confused as to how people justify their outrage about it.
Because you have to buy the 4x plan in order to enjoy features like UHD. As it is digital there is absolutely no reason, why they couldn’t bundle it so there is a standard and premium plan available both for family access or just for single access.
This is like McDonalds only serving you drinks if you buy at least two meals, but forbidding you to give away the second meal.
Using an advertised feature is “privileged and entitled”???
They literally charged extra for more simultaneous streams, and let you set up multiple profiles. Password sharing was an intended, advertised feature that people paid for.
Wanting what you were sold is not entitled or privileged. That’s a baseline of transactions.
Ok, fine. But this is not what people are really complaining about and you know it. I am a cheap ass, I’ll admit it. But I’m not that cheap.
Alright, I’ll bite, what are people really complaining about?
I think most are freeloaders mad that they finally have to pay. I expounded a bit more in another reply, but I appreciate Netflix for blazing the streaming trail, so I want to see them succeed. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows, of course.
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This is literally exactly what people are complaining about. Myself included.
Most of the complaints sound like people upset that the gravy train has been halted and now they finally have to pay for the service instead of leaching off their parents or whatever. I’m not saying there are no legitimate concerns, but I believe the vast majority are what I’ve described, hence the jump in subs.
I want Netflix to do well. I’ve been a customer for literal decades and I applaud their innovations as the OG streaming platform. Hell, it’s still the most user friendly and smoothest experience, IMO.
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I still share my password with a few other households and we’ve experienced no service interruption at all. if they catch me, I’ll just cancel my account then resub to binge anything that looks interesting. plenty of free streaming sites I can scroll through while complaining that there’s nothing good on, I don’t need to pay for the privilege.
As far as I can tell their “crackdown” has just been “send an email to people using from more than one IP address”.
Same here and I haven’t received any warning or blocking. As soon as I get told or blocked then I’ll cancel. That way in their metrics they see I was blocked and then cancelled. But so far it just keeps working.
Netflix says a lot of things, some aren’t true
I’ve found sailing the high seas to be far more convenient than using Netflix nowadays. I can watch what I want to watch when I want, instead of finding out a movie I wanted to watch was removed recently
Same. I cancelled my Netflix a couple years ago and haven’t looked back. They don’t have a lot of content that I’m interested in watching anymore, and when they do it’s easy to find elsewhere. I host my own Plex server now which makes it even more of a seamless transition.
I mean if my family is any statistic to go on, 2/3 kids (me one of them) swore off Netflix since. The other, bought their own subscription as soon as the code stopped working
They haven’t had anything interesting to watch since Squid Game. This Black Mirror season had like one good episode.
But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?If it weren’t for Trailer Park Boys I wouldn’t even have a Netflix account.
It’s a difficult balance. They want more subscribers but less view time, so they create lots of new series to reel in new people and cancel already established series as the only people they matter to once everyone has heard about them are the users.
I really wanted to cancel my subscription. I consider piracy to be a moral option against the aggressively repressive sonny bono copyright law. But I can’t pull the rug out from my mom’s feet back home (I live in another state). So instead of getting to cancel in protest like how I want, I still just pay for one Netflix subscription that I don’t use personally.
If you go the piracy route you can get her a lot more content for the cost of some electricity and some usenet indexers, or have a friend willing to host a Plex server
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When I was last home I did set up Jellyfin from my dad’s PC (which is basically always on) and downloaded a few movies for them. But some of the movies had inconsistent subtitles or needed massaging. Or Jellyfin needed to take an extra moment to transcode the subtitle format for some reason. So if I were able to ensure that stuff is all sorted out, it works great. But if I’m not there it might get weird.
Fair enough
You should look into hosting a Plex server for her. My brother set one up after I cancelled our Netflix and our tech-illterate mother loves it. The only change for her was moving from clicking on the Netflix icon on her TV to clicking on the Plex icon.
This is the way to go if you really want to be a pro piracy advocate.
Most people can’t be bothered with the complexities of torrents or codecs. Luckily that’s my shit, and I put together a 4x16TB NAS setup and started hosting a Plex instance for family initially, then added some coworkers. It’s a fun little hobby, and my users are able to save on streaming services.
Also, I’ve found a majority of users really don’t care much about quality, so I’m able to serve up multiple streams on only 40Mbps upload without noticing any network slowdowns.
If she’s on your account, in another state, you were not cracked down.
But that highlights the spin these companies exploit through inconsistent or partial abuse. Like every Chrome or Windows update where someone can say ‘just jump through hoops X Y and Z’ or ‘it still works on my machine.’ The impact is softened and the backlash is robbed of momentum. Six months later the problem is enforced mercilessly, but all the Google results are outdated excuses and confusion.
So are you saying I could still log in and use Netflix on my laptop? I haven’t tried out of fear of messing something up.
Good to see I am not one of them, I cut off Netflix after the news and went to the competition which are cheaper and have better production.
Not exhausted at all
I haven’t because Netflix hasn’t given me a good solid reason to return to them.
I wouldn’t exactly say everyone is too tired to fight this stuff. Because, a bubble has yet to burst somewhere if it hasn’t already. Netflix just fails to see the bigger picture of this problem and once that bubble bursts, the bubble of financial strains on society, they’ll feel it tenfold.
Large thinking on your part here. However, the issue is people will purchase it no matter what. Your efforts to stamp Netflix out personally are great but they are overshadowed by a company that makes millions and doesn’t need your 13 to 14 dollars a month to stay subscribed.
If we want to show companies we aren’t going to participate then we have to indefinitely convince the population not to participate. That isn’t going to happen. These companies know that they will make money and people will keep buying.
This applies to almost any industry. Take something more environmental. I haven’t eaten fish in 3 years because of how bad the fishing industry is. Mind you I am hypocrite and eat chicken and beef and those industries are just as bad but I am trying to cut back on them as well. Problem is, my one little attempt to not aid in the fishing industries endeavors are swamped by the millions that don’t care, are oblivious by choice or, just would rather exist in a world where there are no problems.
The truth is the big companies should hold a responsibility but our laws (at least in the U.S.) fine them small amounts of what they make double of. Their are no laws to truly stop massive corporations because the corporations are fined rather than the people running the company and that is by design because technically the fisherman can’t be held accountable in the companies wrong doings if the CEO was the one doing the wrong doings but the fisherman is aiding those wrong doings unknowingly so you punish the company not the people running it.
Then it boils down to if you can’t change the company then it becomes the people’s responsibility and we have one but we blame the company and or ignore our responsibility.
The truth is it’s everyone’s responsibility. The companies the people’s. The human equation just doesn’t care. People aren’t going to stop watching Netflix over money the same as they won’t stop giving fishing companies money to kill the ocean that gives Earth life. Because there is no immediate effect to their lives. It only matters to most when it’s too late.
We could divulge into a thousand topics. This isn’t meant to discourage your efforts. Don’t pay Netflix save your money but getting on Lemmy and stating, “Netflix will fall.” Can only happen when people give a damn just like you or when the companies give a damn. Companies have one incentive, money. People have incentive to buy a product if it works and brings some form of usefulness to their lives. No matter how you look at it or how much an end user wants to bitch about money. The truth is Netflix works so we are going to spend money to use it.
You could apply this to Google Search, Apple products, etc. There is no incentive to allow competition, care about your privacy, care about your well being, if the incentive or money takes precedence. Additionally, that means we have a problem but on the other hand. You know what works? Google Search, do you know what gives Google Search the edge? Your data and money. You know why iPhone is popular because it’s easier to buy an iPhone to talk to friends and the messaging just works. You know the problem with Apple products? No incentive to switch to better platforms like RCS over SMS. Apple doesn’t want to change the consumer should and we will keep buying their product.
Point being people have to truly change to change a company.
I canceled my sub aftear being subbed for many many years.
If I get a single additional charge, I’m done with Netflix.
I straight up don’t believe them, that must be some statistical trickery. There’s no “too exhausted” that makes more money just appear on people’s bank accounts.