I assume “Other purposes” is govt kickbacks to mining and gas companies 😬
In the US we just all know that it’s bombs to kill the enemies of whoever the companies are allowed to sell them to, and fighter jets that don’t work.
You pay more in taxes than I earn in a year.
Eww you guys are getting close to spending more on education than the military. Slippery slope.
Sarcasm I hope?
if you can’t tell this is sarcasm, then you might not be best placed to be on the internet message boards, as you might misunderstand 99% of comments
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No way!
As mentioned by @[email protected] above:
This is just federal spending. Most educational spending is at the state level.
It gets worse-
They spell defense with a c!
Those goddamn commies need some freedumb!!!
I think something like this would make U.S. citizens feel better about taxes in general, since it can sometimes feel like you’re throwing a large portion of your hard-earned money away.
The data to create this is essentially public with budget bills right? It would just take building a percentage tree and categorizing them appropriately. I might look into how complex this would be to build.
Luckily they even do the categorization and calculate percentages for you!
I had no idea this existed; thanks for the share!
its basically just proportioning out the nations budget against the amount of tax paid,assuming you had access to how much was spent where by category, it would be a peice of piss to make
true but seeing how much goes to welfare might make republicans hit the roof. Everyones got that uncle that hates the poors.
Mind you the largest chunk of that is the elderly with the unemployed being one of the smallest ones. I’m very much in favour of both by the way.
If you think your taxes are too high then it’s not because too much is going to welfare; it’s because too much is going to tax breaks (which won’t show up on a chart like this) for fossil fuel companies and the wealthy.
Most in Australia don’t read where the money goes. Taxes aren’t too bad (IMO) and the system is so easy that once you submit you don’t really go back to see where it went. Or maybe I live in a bubble.
This is pretty great. This should be happening everywhere.
I get one from the US gov. It looks like:
Military spending ======================== Other =
Makes me want to calculate what goes where in my taxes based off these percentages, even if it’s not the most accurate
Interesting that the Medicare has a note that the amount includes offsetting receipts like premiums.
Makes me want to calculate what goes where in my taxes based off these percentages, even if it’s not the most accurate
I love that tiny wee slice of corporate income tax compared to personal
My favorite thing about budget breakdowns in the US is how often pundits list defense spending as a percentage of GNP (gross national product) rather than as a percentage of the annual budget. Nothing else in the budget ever gets this kind of favorable treatment (which makes it appear smaller than it actually is) except sometimes debt service.
I don’t think that’s favorable treatment. Defense is 3%. Social Security is 5%. Medicaid and Medicare is also 5%.
We can afford our defense budget and make the country better for the common person by utilizing our funds more efficiently and/or moving to universal healthcare.
That’s what I thought. I bet that would raise understanding of federal purposes
Fun fact: in the United States you can request this same sort of receipt. It’s slightly different, but all you have to do is request it, and they can show you exactly how many brown people they shot, or godless communists they’ve brought democracy to with your taxes!
In the US they’d have to print it Landscape in order to have room for the Military bar.
On one of those long ass printer papers with the tear off edges from the 80s.
It must be so nice to see such a small bar for your defense spending.
Thats why they lost the Emu war…
See those emus try the same shit in the states and see how that goes
small? its just as much as education!
This is just federal spending. Most educational spending is at the state level.
I don’t know much but I don’t think Australia works that way? Do they have “states” or some equivalent? Curiously asking.
Yeah we have 6 states. Australia is a federation like the US. There’s no equivalent to this form because we don’t have any state income taxes.
Ahh I see. Interesting! Thank you for clarifying.
It’s still 8.6%, that’s quite a lot actually…
Just wait til we buy the govt some nuc subs in the coming years, then that bar gonna be a long boi
what’s your guess as to the percentage of US military spending compared to its tax revenue?
Yeah because that shit is totally not needed. AU and EU need to step up their shit. Iran and China sure are.
Except we don’t want to be the USA of the Asia pacific region.
You people live in a fantasy world where physical threats do not exist. The US is leading the way protecting Asia and Europe. The entire balkins would be under RU is it wasn’t for that spending.
The spending it’s needed and it’s EU/Asia doesn’t step up it’s game they’ll ultimately be a second tier power to the United States perpetually. Their call I guess 🤷♂️.
We know more about geo politics in the region than you do. And your drastic oversimplification does not actually result in a reasonable and coherent plan for peace in the Asia pacific region. Again I’ll say, your presence and commentary in this case is misinformed and incorrect.
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I’m not sure why your being downvoted, but it’s true. Allied countries of the U.S. do not have to put much towards their military budget do to being able to rely on the U.S.
The U.S. has a strong military presence in the Indo-pacific region and if they didn’t, surely some adversaries would have already been having their way.
It’s unfortunate it comes to this but that’s just the facts.
People think big military = war, while in fact it‘s the opposite.
I mean sadly you’re right - people like to hate on our defense spending in the US, but who does the world look towards when Russia invades Ukraine? It sucks that it needs to be this way, but if we don’t have a strong deterrent to other countries then we’re just asking for problems. Look at how aggressive China and Russia have gotten recently, with China inching closer to an invasion of Taiwan. Who’s going to be laughing when the US is there to help Taiwan?
Also isn’t usa paying for other countrys military not sure if this is true
Except we kinda do need our military, especially with how cunty some point Australia’s neighbours can be.
Yeah, don’t trust them kiwis.
Should just nuke them now and get it over with honestly
We all know NZ is planning something
The West Island is welcome to join Aotearoa any time they like 😂
I wish we had this in Canada.
I wish we had it in New Zealand too. I get tired of people’s hallucinations about tax.
Is this hard to do in practice? I would love to see a breakdown like this in the United States, and especially on a local level. What’s involved in getting this information? Where does someone even start to request something like this?
I assume it has to just be based on the proportion of budget spending and not actually your dollars tracked
This might sound dopey so forgive me, but couldn’t my dollars be tracked? Wouldn’t that be a good use for blockchain technology?
It would not be a good use for Blockchain technology. Besides the problem that your dollars are a fungible asset that don’t have a physical object associated with it, as soon as you dollars get converted to another state, account, entity, whatever along with another thousands people’s dollars you would lose the tracking. And ultimately even if you could achieve this it would then either all fall to one or two accounts so you would have the disheartening effect of seeing your entire annual contribution spent on something tedious like fuelling an aircraft carrier, or they would attempt to distribute it evenly in which case why not save all the effort and just track the average spend budgets? It’s a solution looking for a problem here.
Ah, thank you for the explanation. I thought that money could be tracked even through conversion, but now I see how that wouldn’t be possible. It’s better suited for tracking bitcoin and the like, right?
Part of me wants to see that tedious spending of my money but I suppose it wouldn’t do me any good. An average breakdown would be nice, starting with my property taxes.
Based.
It’s cocaine and prostitutes because it’s always cocaine and prostitutes.
You pay 20 000 $ of taxes!!!
Yes, from a salary of about 90k. However this is federal tax. We dont pay individual state taxes as well. Our sales tax is built into the price of goods. Our healthcare is also completely free.
Comparatively, in the US a $90k USD salary is about $10,415 in federal taxes.
However, my family healthcare is about $22k in premiums alone, for a high-deductible plan. This includes the employer-paid portion, as that is part of my total compensation package. Then there is the deductible ($5k) before the insurance starts paying out. And this is not including Medicare/SS taxes as well.
Transparency
This would be neat to see for the US
Health wouldn’t be on there at all because fuck em
Defense would be spelled correctly and be so large that it would need to be on its own section, because the chart scale would distort things so badly that everything else would look like a sliver above zero
Education would be smaller than your immigration
Welfare, depending on the administration, would likely be some derogatory categorization for each group just to piss off their base
“other” would be the best biggest thing after Defense and provide no details, because it would be corporate subsidies and that would look bad
Health wouldn’t be on there at all because fuck em
The US actually does spend an incredible amount of money on healthcare compared to other countries. Nearly $2 trillion in the budget for FY 2023 alone. Medicare and Medicaid comprising the majority of that spending.
The US spends about twice as much per person for healthcare out of taxes than comparably rich nations do.
The problem isn’t the budget, it’s the cost. Healthcare is way too damn expensive in the US compared to elsewhere.
But remember, having all these private companies run the system is good, actually! The alternative is communism despite every other capitalist country in the world using the alternative!
“correctly”
This is very easy to find with a simple google search. Here’s the year-to-date spending for 2023:
$1.01T social security
$673B health
$636B medicare
$623B income security
$610B defense
$494B net interest
$220B veteran benefits & services
$201B education, training, employment, and social services
$89B transportation
$74B community and regional development
$179B otherhttps://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but is the USA spending $1.3T on healthcare and it’s still not free?
Yes.
Welcome to America! The greatest nation!
And another 2.5Trillion on the private side. Spend more on healthcare than any other country with the same or worse outcomes.
So the comment you’re replying to was pretty much completely incorrect. Wonder if they’ll revise their statement
Of course not, because it’s much easier to just go “haha America dumb and bad”
Can’t let the facts get in the way of that.
I mean, we spend more on defense than the next several nations combined and we haven’t won a war in 80 years.
We spend more on healthcare than every other nation and it’s still the most expensive healthcare system in the world.
We spend hundreds of billions on a welfare system that forces people on it to keep working until the day they die.
We throw out billions in kickbacks and “incentives” to billion dollar companies.
I could go on with the numerous, seemingly never ending problems with the US, but the point is that our system is indeed bad and dumb. Nothing we have works, and all of it is extremely over funded and under delivering. At this point, tearing it all up and starting again seems like the easier way to fix things, and getting to that point is never good
Not only is it pretty common for a democracy to be pretty open about how they spend their tax budget, it’s really common for these figures to be discussed when attacking America 🙄
Social security is SELF-FUNDING, and even still lends money to the general fund. Yes, this a list of all government spending, but it isn’t what your FICA payment goes towards. Military spending is #1 for that.
Defense would be spelled correctly
Hey, I take offence to that!
Color me surprised
What is color? Do you mean colour?
Sorry that’s not a word, it has a red squiggly under it if I try to use it
That is a freaking sweet seal for the Australian Government! Id wear that on a shirt
