Not being a diver at all, what sort of “cave equipment” is this alluding to?
torches, iron pickage, some cooked beef, iron armour, 16 logs
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I think a water breathing potion would also be appropriate, either that or water affinity+breathing and/or turtle helmet
Off the top of my head, rope to put down Gide lines in case you get silted out so you have something to follow to get out.
Also extra everything, if your open water diving and you run out of air (or other critial equipment failure) you can roll the dice on the bends by going straight to the surface, not so with cave diving; your just going to drown.
I’m not a caver or a diver, but I’ve read a few stories about cave diving. A big one is a cable on a retracting reel. Caves which are frequently explored will have guide cables bolted along the walls for long stretches. You snap your cable onto these and then use it as a leash back to the guide. This allows you to explore off a certain distance without getting lost. You can always follow your own line back to the guide, and follow the guide back out. In an “unimproved” cave, you’d presumably want lots of extra line to build your own guides.
Multiple torches, a helmet, guide line, maybe side mounted cylinders.
You took it further than I would. I’d listen to the sign these days, but there was absolutely a time that, that sign would have just been a challenge.
Edit: for you grammar nerds. Do I need that comma? It seems like it should be there, but it also seems superfluous at the same time.
With the “that, that” the comma helps, but you actually don’t even need the second that for that sentence to make grammatical sense.
On that note, I really hate it when a double-that is the only way for a sentence to make sense. Like I need to rewrite the whole paragraph to avoid that monstrosity.
I go full on Martian when I read a double-that.
I feel like if they replaced the first “that” with “when” it would read smoother. “…a time when that sign”
You son of a bitch, I’m in!
Farther is the correct word, and has been confused with further for so long (over a hundred years), that they both mean exactly the same thing nowadays, so not sure why people are taking issues with it.
Unless I’m missing something?
I don’t see any comments of people taking issue with it. But words do mean things, and some people like to speak with precision.
The title correcting it to further is what caught my attention, but no, I’m not seeing people taking huge issue with it either.
And there’s nothing wrong with being correct, I like to be eloquent too.
I was just saying farther is just as correct as further, and found it interesting is all. They may have been misused a hundred years ago, but not for a long long time, they have identical meanings nowadays!
Words apparently don’t mean things anymore, Merriam Webster added a new definition for “literally” this year
Merriam Webster is a descriptive dictionary. They don’t tell you how words “should” be used, they say how words are used.
Using literally as an intensifier goes back literal centuries. The earliest written citation we’ve found of that usage goes back to 1769. It can be found everywhere from Dickens to Brontë.
It’s also hardly the first word to go on a similar path towards becoming an intensifier. Very originally meant “genuine”, really meant “in fact”, absolutely meant “completely”, etc.
But who complains about sentences like “I was really bored to death”, or “I was absolutely rooted to the ground”? Does saying “it’s very cold” just mean “it is a genuine fact that it is cold”?
Literally still means what it means. You can’t use literally to mean “yellow”, for example. People aren’t generally confused when they come across the word.
They also added a new definition for “very” to mean something other than, “factually”, or, “verifiably”.
Also… I’m all for the language evolving and words changing their meaning over time, as they’ve always done, but that one is crazy. Hopefully common use will, in time, fix that and get that new definition changed… but ehh, I don’t hold much hope.
Bring on the AI overlords? Reading the Polity (Sci Fi) series at the moment, and it really doesn’t seem like a bad option!
I’m just going to assume they meant that sarcastically.
Language is a complex and nuanced subject, but it often helps to remember that “all words are made up.”
Idioms and hyperbole are both used extensively in language to imbue feeling to statements, most people would roll their eyes at someone who interjects with a “there’s no actual evidence that boredom can be lethal” or a “I highly doubt that vendor would accept human limbs as payment,” but somehow lots of people stan for “literal” snobbery.
If it makes you feel any better, you can think of it as a homophone from the same root: “in a manner related to literature,” speaking to artistic yet inexact use of words in a sentence.
They just want to keep it all to themselves.
Yeah but that’s for other people, not me.
Right? I haven’t died yet!
Clearly! Here you are posting comments on Lemmy, a sure indication of un-deadedness.
If those spelunkers could read, they’d be very upset.
What’s so dangerous that it was able to kill instructors? Sediment and visibility?
Correct, with no visibility it’s very hard to orient yourself
I reckon it was all the water that killed them
Cave diving is a completely different skill set than open water diving. While they both are underwater with diving tanks, cave diving takes specialized skills.
A very specific set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you
Sounds like someone wants to keep the treasure all to themselves!
Basically yes. Once you go inside a cave like this, it gets dark real fast. You can’t tell where “up” is and you can’t find your way back. So these people often drown or suffocate.
In cave dive training, you learn how not to do that.
“There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world…”
–Gandalf
It’s dark so requires torches (more than one as a backup) and very easy to get disoriented. You can easily get lost and run out of air. Risk of being blinded by silt even with a torch, leading to more risk of disoriented and getting lost. If anything goes wrong such as equipment malfunction then you don’t have the option of going to the surface as you do in open water (albeit with the risk of a bend). It’s often cramped with places to get stuck, snag equipment, or get tangled in your guideline. There are sharp rocks you can hit your head on.
There’s nothing in this cave worth dying for
There’s nothing outside it to live for. Show me the damn cave
The number of people who have died in this particular cave is less than 300, sounds safe enough to me
They mean all known deaths in sea caves.
Don’t stinkin tell me what to do. Or not do. You aren’t the boss of me.
Right! This gets me so hosed.
i’m confused as to what qualifies as internet funeral now
Yeah, this place has quickly diluted into “literally any image with text in it.”
Internet funeral funeral
this doesn’t seem like it would be hmmm without text either though
meirl
Yeah, this one is very clearly a cave funeral
Okay, they almost had me convinced. But the second to last sentence is just crying out for a treasure.
That’s a good point. If I was hiding treasure in an underwater cave, I’d wanta sign like this at the entrance. It’d keep it out most of those medeling kids.
I kinda wanna know what’s in there now…
I believe this is one of the caves at Ginnie Springs. If so, I know a guy who died in there. Cave diving is no joke.
https://youtu.be/or92IMcLoIc?feature=shared
I know it’s Rogan but the guy telling the story about what he went through makes you want to stay on dry land.
109 billion people have died outside of underwater caves. I’ll take my chances.
FACT: 90% of divers give up just before finding something really neat in an underwater cave
Ooo a cool rock! Worth it!! dies
Ooo the remains of a diver that found a cool rock! dies
Aside from some fish which evolved with no eyes (which is kind of cool), the only other thing you are likely to find down there is a dead body that everyone decided was too dangerous to recover.
those that find it don’t come back because it’s just so neat
Then there’s another 1% that aren’t even part of the original statistic because they’re spawned by the pure awesomeness of what’s inside that cave.
FACT: 99% of gamblers quit just one spin away from a jackpot!
