• @[email protected]
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      Off the top of my head, rope to put down Gide lines in case you get silted out so you have something to follow to get out.

      Also extra everything, if your open water diving and you run out of air (or other critial equipment failure) you can roll the dice on the bends by going straight to the surface, not so with cave diving; your just going to drown.

    • Codex
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      I’m not a caver or a diver, but I’ve read a few stories about cave diving. A big one is a cable on a retracting reel. Caves which are frequently explored will have guide cables bolted along the walls for long stretches. You snap your cable onto these and then use it as a leash back to the guide. This allows you to explore off a certain distance without getting lost. You can always follow your own line back to the guide, and follow the guide back out. In an “unimproved” cave, you’d presumably want lots of extra line to build your own guides.

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      You took it further than I would. I’d listen to the sign these days, but there was absolutely a time that, that sign would have just been a challenge.

      Edit: for you grammar nerds. Do I need that comma? It seems like it should be there, but it also seems superfluous at the same time.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 years ago

    Farther is the correct word, and has been confused with further for so long (over a hundred years), that they both mean exactly the same thing nowadays, so not sure why people are taking issues with it.

    Unless I’m missing something?

    • Subverb
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      I don’t see any comments of people taking issue with it. But words do mean things, and some people like to speak with precision.

      • @[email protected]
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        The title correcting it to further is what caught my attention, but no, I’m not seeing people taking huge issue with it either.

        And there’s nothing wrong with being correct, I like to be eloquent too.

        I was just saying farther is just as correct as further, and found it interesting is all. They may have been misused a hundred years ago, but not for a long long time, they have identical meanings nowadays!

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        Words apparently don’t mean things anymore, Merriam Webster added a new definition for “literally” this year

        • @[email protected]
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          142 years ago

          Merriam Webster is a descriptive dictionary. They don’t tell you how words “should” be used, they say how words are used.

          Using literally as an intensifier goes back literal centuries. The earliest written citation we’ve found of that usage goes back to 1769. It can be found everywhere from Dickens to Brontë.

          It’s also hardly the first word to go on a similar path towards becoming an intensifier. Very originally meant “genuine”, really meant “in fact”, absolutely meant “completely”, etc.

          But who complains about sentences like “I was really bored to death”, or “I was absolutely rooted to the ground”? Does saying “it’s very cold” just mean “it is a genuine fact that it is cold”?

          Literally still means what it means. You can’t use literally to mean “yellow”, for example. People aren’t generally confused when they come across the word.

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          They also added a new definition for “very” to mean something other than, “factually”, or, “verifiably”.

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          12 years ago

          Also… I’m all for the language evolving and words changing their meaning over time, as they’ve always done, but that one is crazy. Hopefully common use will, in time, fix that and get that new definition changed… but ehh, I don’t hold much hope.

          Bring on the AI overlords? Reading the Polity (Sci Fi) series at the moment, and it really doesn’t seem like a bad option!

        • @[email protected]
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          Language is a complex and nuanced subject, but it often helps to remember that “all words are made up.”

          Idioms and hyperbole are both used extensively in language to imbue feeling to statements, most people would roll their eyes at someone who interjects with a “there’s no actual evidence that boredom can be lethal” or a “I highly doubt that vendor would accept human limbs as payment,” but somehow lots of people stan for “literal” snobbery.

          If it makes you feel any better, you can think of it as a homophone from the same root: “in a manner related to literature,” speaking to artistic yet inexact use of words in a sentence.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      Cave diving is a completely different skill set than open water diving. While they both are underwater with diving tanks, cave diving takes specialized skills.

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        A very specific set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you

    • @[email protected]
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      252 years ago

      Basically yes. Once you go inside a cave like this, it gets dark real fast. You can’t tell where “up” is and you can’t find your way back. So these people often drown or suffocate.

      In cave dive training, you learn how not to do that.

    • @[email protected]
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      “There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world…”

      –Gandalf

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      It’s dark so requires torches (more than one as a backup) and very easy to get disoriented. You can easily get lost and run out of air. Risk of being blinded by silt even with a torch, leading to more risk of disoriented and getting lost. If anything goes wrong such as equipment malfunction then you don’t have the option of going to the surface as you do in open water (albeit with the risk of a bend). It’s often cramped with places to get stuck, snag equipment, or get tangled in your guideline. There are sharp rocks you can hit your head on.

  • @[email protected]
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    There’s nothing in this cave worth dying for

    There’s nothing outside it to live for. Show me the damn cave

  • @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    The number of people who have died in this particular cave is less than 300, sounds safe enough to me

  • Simple Jack
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    Don’t stinkin tell me what to do. Or not do. You aren’t the boss of me.

  • Aatube
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    i’m confused as to what qualifies as internet funeral now

  • @[email protected]
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    252 years ago

    Okay, they almost had me convinced. But the second to last sentence is just crying out for a treasure.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      That’s a good point. If I was hiding treasure in an underwater cave, I’d wanta sign like this at the entrance. It’d keep it out most of those medeling kids.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    I believe this is one of the caves at Ginnie Springs. If so, I know a guy who died in there. Cave diving is no joke.

  • @[email protected]
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    1962 years ago

    FACT: 90% of divers give up just before finding something really neat in an underwater cave

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      82 years ago

      Aside from some fish which evolved with no eyes (which is kind of cool), the only other thing you are likely to find down there is a dead body that everyone decided was too dangerous to recover.

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        Then there’s another 1% that aren’t even part of the original statistic because they’re spawned by the pure awesomeness of what’s inside that cave.