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After 15 years of having to buy a new ink printer almost every year. We just bought an entry level laser printer. Same printer for 20 years now. Never even changed the toner yet. Was a huge upfront cost of 500$ compared to the 100$ ink jets, but man is it ever nice to just completely forget your printer exists until you hit the print button, grab your document, then go back to completely forgetting you own a printer. Never have to put any thought or effort into it. Just sits there always being ready and fully functional.
When we do have to change the toner, the exact same standardized cartridges are still the ones they use on the new ones, so they will be around when we need them.
I fortunately only did a inkjets for 3-4 years before I went laser. I even bought a second toner cartridge at the same time! 15 years later, I actually used the 2nd cartridge-the printer is still going (albeit it seems it may only last another 5-10 years).
You Dawg, that’s still a big FU! HP for me…
Who the fuck keep buying HP in 2023 when there are lots of other brands available in the market?
companies and uninformed people who fall for the “recommendations” at the store.
Corps.
I’ve heard their business-oriented products are much much better. Which makes sense, because business customers tend to have contracts that cost the supplier money when things don’t work, whereas pissing off consumers usually costs nothing in the short term.
Go into a store like Walmart and you will have 6 different HP printers, 1 epson, and empty spots where the 1 Lexmark sits. Once you get to rural areas you don’t have much of an option to specially when the point of purchase already limits your purchase options.
Most people will not drive 1-2+ hours to get more options.
Man, if only we could buy printers online!
B-b-b but the $2 shipping is gonna ruin me!
Yes some can. I’m one of them. My in-laws, nope wanna see it I. Person first. And when you need it now, not in a day or two
Easy. Never buy HP. Their printers are shit and so are their laptops.
What’s wrong with their laptops? I’ve never had any issues.
For starters you don’t need a heating unit if you keep their laptop running inside
There’s someone to say something bad about every computer brand.
I’ve never had that problem. But I’ve never had a particularly high end HP laptop so maybe those are different.
Also their batteries get pregnant every other year and if you don’t fix it, it sets your house on fire.
Hahahahaja
Thanks for the laugh, and the vision.
Also, I’ll be stealing the “getting pregnant” line
Damn it, people need to stop fucking batteries or use protection.
🤣🤣🤣
Source?
Anecdotal.
Their consumer line has very poor build quality. Cheap everything. All of the plastic is flimsy and breaks easily, inadequate cooling, etc. They’re built about as good as Acer, but at a price that you’d expect from a much, much better brand.
Then there’s how dedicated they are to screwing you. I won’t touch them again for any reason after how malicious they were with the nVidia failures.
Anything corporations think you can’t do without will be raised until enough people have no choice but to stop buying them, then they’ll hold it there.
Damn. I don’t print much, but I did get my HP printer dirt cheap. Wish there was some sort of hack around this.
Ink subscription is a bad descriptor
You pay per page, if you have extra ink leftover then you don’t have access to it
Isn’t that worse? It’s hard to say at these levels of corporate nastiness but I was surprised they could go lower
Yes, the ink subscription is their corporate speak
It amazes me that there are so many people who buy a printer, are offered this “pay $x a month for Y pages” type of plan, and say yes. I mean, sure, HP sucks, but they wouldn’t be able to get away with such slimy business practices if there weren’t so many people willing to pay.
Spend a bit more and get a laser and have it last exponentially longer. That’s how I’ve been rollin.
I keep saying it around here - my 1996 Lexmark laser just died in July.
Almost 30 years old. And I think I can fix it.
My cheap 300$ laser died after 8 years, so replaced it with a 600 better one. Let’s see how this goes 😂
I am obligated by my work to offer this to customers when they buy an HP printer and I make it really clear that it’s a bad deal for most customers. There are some edge case examples, like a lady with a small business who always prints exactly like 3 pages a day. The other customers who agree to buy it are almost always the super old people who don’t want to have to come to the store to get more ink. I think it’s a shit program that should be scrapped entirely, but some people really don’t care if it’s a bad deal as long as they get the convenience. No different than 7-11 up charging shit because it’s easier to buy it at the market down the street than the Walmart a few miles down the road.
I have not had to print anything in a long time. A long time. What are people printing?
You don’t print out memes to put on your fridge like everyone else?
I tattoo memes onto the inside of my eyelids for maximum exposure.
Color by numbers for the kids. Got a LaserJet though and I use that website that sells bootleg yet serviceable toner cartridges.
That sounds like a good use. For me, my kids are dogs. If I print things out for them to color they just chew them up. Speaking of receipts, somehow one of them got ahold of one today. I chased him and he escaped under the bed, to chew at his leisure.
Shipping labels, legal documents, receipts, and more. Just because 99% of things can be done digitally, doesn’t mean the 1% stops existing.
Hmm. I guess whenever I need to ship something, the place I go prints the label. Most recently UPS printed and packaged a Steamdeck I shipped to my nephew. If it’s going back to Amazon I just take the item to Kohls and they handle it. The receipts and more…I just show the email with the QR code if I’m returning something to Home Depot or Best Buy.
It’s crazy, I really have no need for a printer for the past …god. It’s been forever.
One thing you could likely benefit from, even if it’s only sometimes. Look into Pirate Ship. You do need to print your own labels, but they are much cheaper than retail. I’ve had package labels as much as 40% discounted in some instances.
Receipts are normally fine digital, but a lot of government bodies want paper for some things. And “mail in rebates” and the like need printed as well.
The only reason I still have my HP is because they have a free tier. It’s extremely limited, but I pay nothing since I don’t go over 10 pages a month. If they ever try to take that tier away, or if we start needing more prints, I’m definitely looking into a laser printer, maybe even a second hand office unit.
Edit: Spelling mistake in link.
Breaking news: Printer company behaves like printer companies always have. User hostile.
This just in: Capitalism works
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Jokes on you. HP is moving into the energy sector with their spinning bodies with magnets attached.
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I still can’t believe his cartoon got cancelled due to reverse racism… No, seriously, I can NOT believe that he actually says that shit.
Edit to add: I’m so confused to see people agree with me in their replies but also obviously downvote me. Maybe they didn’t make it past the first sentence? Oh well, I’ve really been appreciating the discussions I’m reading!
Reverse racism is nonsensical.
It’s just racism.
I can’t stand that term. “Reverse Racism” implies that Racism is supposed to go a specific direction. Anyone who uses it is Racist themselves.
It’s just Racism. Like “de-evolution”. It’s just evolution numb-nuts!
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That would be anti
The term “reverse racism” has been around for decades, a mis-application (sometimes intentional) to imply racism is automatically one way.
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I don’t know. I feel like these guys were on to something.
I’ve never thought about it but you’re right, anyone using that term is immediately telling on themselves.
Was gonna say I vaguely remember when HP implied some level of quality
Running Linux on a HP Victus desktop. The hardware is fine (I got it at a good price when my last home built PC crapped out and graphics cards were overpriced - it was simply the best deal at the time)… Bloat. Bloat everywhere in windows.
Actually, they are still ahead of the competition in industrial printing, their indigo and pagewide web presses are very good and reliable, but of course those products belongs to a whole different market segment
HP was indeed affordable and good. They made good laptops and laser printers for many years.
Back in my day…
Emphasis on the past tense.
Strong emphasis. I had an HP laptop in college in 2006. I believe I took good care of it. It freezes one day in the middle of homework, I pull the battery out in frustration. It never turned on again. No idea what I did but it died.
Did you pay for the antifreeze? That’s probably why
It pays to have a good antifreeze.
I think my Mcovfee subscription had just expired. Should have known better!
I remember Carly Fiorina getting hired and almost immediately things started turning to shit.
I don’t know, it often seems that the prior ceo (often with the help of the board) sets a company up for quick profits, but long term doom. Then he leaves and they miraculously hit their first female CEO (see GM, Yahoo, Reddit, Blizzard, Twitter (currently)).
I don’t disagree with that, but she knew exactly what she was brought in to do and jumped in with both feet. Would it have been someone else if she turned the gig down? Of course. But she said yes so it was her.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add that Carly specifically does is probably a pretty terrible person (hard not to be when vying for republican office). Good point.
HP is still plenty serviceable as long as you’re getting HP Enterprise. The consumer stuff has been trash for almost 20 years now.
HP and HPE are two separate companies.
I suppose that explains the difference in quality and usability
As someone who works extensively with the spin offs instruments, I can safely say that they would be just as outraged. They are all bad quality, fail VERY frequently, and, guess what, you have to subscribe to be able to use all the features of the hardware you bought.
The cheapest plan is .10 euro a month per page if you only print 10 pages. (.99 euro, max 10 pages). Just pay a library or kinkos at that point!
they charge you PER PAGE??!
No, you get billed X euro per month, which gives you the “right” to print up to X pages each month. Even worse.
Did… did they suffer some head trauma?
Are these posts about HP just a way for Brother to advertise in the comment section
I mean I’m definitely cancelling my HP subscription, but still. It’s a lot.
I think it’s just wave after wave of people who are shocked to discover what a horrible mess HP printers are. Some of us learned it many years ago.
If it helps even it out for you - I’m quite happy with my Epson lol
I hate to /HailCorporate but it was affordable, takes cheap unbranded ink, and hasn’t given me much trouble (I don’t use it often, so the ink heads do dry, but a couple of cycles of head cleaning and they’re good to go again).I’ll shill for brother because it’s cheap, they don’t lock out generic cartridges, prints well on the network from Linux, and seem to last.
What they are missing on compared to HP is parts support. However, the comparable HP printer with parts support is twice the price and the parts are almost the cost of a new cheap printer.
Lexmark is okay too, I guess.
No. It’s like bitwarden. Everyone’s praising them to shill levels because they are generally that good. Brothers just run and run without nagging or insane prices. They do tend to be a little more expensive because they don’t lose money on the hardware like HP or cannon will.
Perfect analogy. I completely shill for both Bitwarden and Brother printers because they legit are just that good. When I find products like that they’re what I push to my family and friends because they “just work.”
LOL, if not, Brother’s marketing should lean into it. I got an old HP laser that cranks 1,000+ pages for $20. I’ll run the wheels off it and buy a Brother.
HP is coasting on goodwill from us old folks who remember when they were the best of best.
Not advertising but I did buy a brother laser maybe two years ago for home. I rarely need color, if I need something stunning I’ll send it to Office Depot and pay .50 each. That’s maybe two time a year. $20 a year for an off brand toner cartridge otherwise.
Just making it easier not to buy one!
“buy”
