NixOS is the new Arch… (cat, meet pigeons) Unfortunately It doesn’t have as much basic training as Arch did (which archinstall obviates, not that I think this is a bad thing, it’s time is here), which did so much to improve community. Unfortunately NixOS’s doco is woeful, while ArchWiki is gold standard.
I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily (although I do have a T440p with 3 boot drives not doing much, hmm)…
NixOS is the new Arch…
Yeah nah, arch has an actual use case for normal users - it’s just the same old Linux with the most recent packages.
Nix and guix simply don’t work as distros for regular people. They’re made for scientific and corporate applications. They add a huge amount of complexity in order to solve problems you don’t have.
Nixos is like rust: hyped into the stratosphere by people who don’t use it
I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily
I’m running guix in fedora as a PM. You get most of the benefits, and can still use other PM’s like npm without crying for a week first. Although imo guix works better in that scenario since you can just “guix install X” and then use X like any other binary.
Yo Arch users. Try daily driving Linux From Scratch. I dare ya. Let’s see what you’re really made of.
Been there. Done that.
Is that Bobby Hill?!
Yes
Thank you I tried to figure out how one could recognize Bobby Hill in this drawing.
Seeing that face “in the wild” blew my damn mind.
The new / rewritten arch install is fantastic. The btrfs layout, with encryption, really nice experience and end result.
Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.
No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??
The room is in shambles.
The room full of vampires?
I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme
One of many. Merobiba is still one of my faves.
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idk why, but everytime I try archinstall it breaks in one way or another. I’m sure it works perfectly well for everyone else, I’m just cursed
note: not seeking advice, I prefer my manually installed FDE + secureboot EFISTUB setup anyways
My current issue is that I can’t remote into the machine at all beyond ssh. Any attempt at a session just refuses to work no matter what guide, fix, video, forum post, etc I follow.
I’ve found that’s usually true with many tech things. Everyone has a great time and I’m just cursed.
“from scratch”
It’s like a page worth of instructions you can follow verbatim excluding bootloader and network. If you watch one video of someone doing it to fill those gaps there is nothing to it.
Source: I watched Kai Hendry speed install arch, bookmarked the video and all my machines are now arch “from scratch” in 10 minutes or less of actual keyboard time.
I think calling it “a page worth” is understating it somewhat, especially if you want a full install to actually use stuff. In reality, when installing at first, you’ll be finding stuff you missed for a while, like hardware video decoding.
Also, are you referring to just the direct instructions for one choice? Because to me, the point of installing manually is educating yourself on the choices, choosing one that suits you, and understanding what you’re doing to set it up. Of course, when you’re doing subsequent installs, you already know that stuff - but at that point you might just want to write an install script instead of running them manually.
I think it depends what you want out of it.
The arch install from the ISO is a layered process. You can always add more, but a bootable install is not much over a page away. I do like to pick what’s best for me, but that’s not a prerequisite for first install. Do it, take notes, refine, and repeat.
I don’t have an installer or anything, but I have pretty comprehensive notes of what I like (bootctl vs grub, network-manager vs systemd-networkd and friends, and so on). But to have a system that boots and optionally has a desktop environment of your choosing is not exactly a Rubik’s cube of difficulty.
Mental Outlaw also has the great guide explaining the install step-by-step in a great detail
except he doesn’t talk about the difference in bootloader installation for uefi
Touche
I don’t remember the channel anymore, but there’s one guy constantly updating various setups. Like Arch with encryption, Arch with BTRFS, etc. I started with one of those videos and wrote my own step by step guide. Now I’m just following my own guide whenever I install Arch.
I wouldn’t dare do that. If my own guide becomes outdated I’d have wasted time and effort. But to each their own. 👍
I still install manually just out of habit
I just installed Fedora (I’ve been a Linux used for 7 years)
Very solid. Loved using it. Tbh, I have very little bad things to say about most of the distros I like all of them so far.
Welcome friend. Welcome to hell.
I don’t use Arch but if I did id probably go with archinstall. I don’t see the point in going from scratch unless you absolutely need to. I could care less about bragging rights for installing an operating system lol.
It’s not about bragging rights, all you do is follow instructions. I just do it that way because I can set everything up exactly how I like it
I just don’t bother going for archinstall when regular installation “from scratch” takes 5 minutes (or 15, if you do it the first time). It is not scary and extremely simple, contrary to memes. Besides, it makes you understand the processes involved.
Archinstall is just a little, nice helper to shorten and simplify installation even more.
You mean “couldn’t care less”. The way you’ve written it means that you do care a bit since you “could care less”.
I never had success with archinstall, just the regular installation.
It’s kinda weird, actually.
I use EndeavourOS and it works without issues.
Jeee EOS gang!
I love arch but I actually haven’t used it since before they added the arch install. I can’t imagine how much easier it is cause it’s still the terminal. The “manual” install was easy as hell
It’s much easier. Just make some choices and it installs. Honestly can’t call it the terminal if it lets me choose options with arrow keys.
You are becoming one punch man??
All that and we don’t find out who she was drawing?
EDIT: i might be dumb
Wait, they don’t say it in the video?
I misinterpreted the “IT’S NOT” at the very end to be coming from the artist :P
Oh, I think that’s one of the other artists who was incredulous that his partner managed to draw Bobby so poorly 😅
Why are you commenting on 4 week old posts
I realized I missed replying to them and the comment was just hanging there in my inbox
