• @[email protected]
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      I would unironically buy this if they really just dropped the lines from UK so it just appears on the board as a blank spot lmao

  • Annoyed_🦀
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    Ohh no how can they not include me in their plan after i burn the bridges with them

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      Dude, who cares about Australia n Britain being left out?.. They left my mighty 'Merica out of the picture! 😔🖼️ SMH

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        'Merica ; " why won’t EU take care of our homeless population and adopt them / refugee them to EU? I mean… We gave them like military bases n guns n shit… come on !

  • @[email protected]
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    The channel tunnel exists so already a direct link and all the usage without having to pay for it? Abit of a win really

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    Wasn’t the UK govt also complaining about their tax money going into funding EU projects like this?

    • Meowing Thing
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      No one said they didn’t want these kind of projects. They just didn’t want to have to pay for them.

      • @[email protected]
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        I lived in Britain during the Leave campaign and it was all about getting the benefits without the responsabilities or costs.

        In fact, the sequence of political events that lead to the Leave Referendum was Britain in the EU trying to have less and less obligations whilst keeping the benefits of Membership to the point that eventually, when the UK demanded “otherwise we have a Referedum on Leave” to not to have to abide by Freedom Of Movement into their country whilst keeping all the rest including Freedom Of Movement for Britons into other EU countries, the rest of the EU said “No!”. After this, David Cammeron was under huge pressure to do the Referendum “to show the EU” and the rest is History.

        The La-La-Land fantasism of the Leave side was always unbelievable, with everything from genuine expections of, post leave, having “Same Rights as Members With No Obligations”, to after Brexit “Other EU Nations will Follow Us Out”.

        I would say that by this point it’s clear that whatever Britain is “showing the EU” isn’t quite what was in Leaver fantasies.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m definitely just a dumb American but I love how apparently “What is Brexit” was the biggest UK web search the day it got approved.

          • Tagger
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            To be fair that is because it was sold to the public on outright lies and the readings of a couple of unscrupulous twats.

            Johnson for example had always been pro-eu and reportedly had two articles written, one remain and one leave, and based his decision of which one to publish on which was more politically expedient for him, not on what he actually thought was better for the country.

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    I think people in this comment section seem to think people who voted to leave the EU are shaking their fists in rage, why would they be? The diagram also looks sus in terms of legality

    • Kilgore Trout
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      The map shows the actual proposal, I don’t know what possibly could look sus to you.

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        I found the proposal - I thought the lines to Ireland were all proposed rail (despite encroaching the incorrect distance by sea) but its a rough diagram and those are water transport routes.

        Looms fine to me though, there’s a path into Norway, and there’s a path into the UK.

        What’s the big deal?

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      Seems to be transit only. Also Switzerland mostly plays by EU rules.

    • st3ph3n
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      Switzerland participates in Schengen and the european free trade association while not being an EU member state. The UK doesn’t do any of those things.

    • Justin
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      Switzerland is part of the single market, I’d guess they’re paying the EU to be part of TEN-T. The UK is trying to have as little association with the EU as possible.

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    Those scheming betrayers also left Australia out of the transport plan for EU members.

    How much lead paint do you need to eat to see the loaded language in these headlines and think “yeah - seems legit.”

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      That’s Switzerland. (not a member of the EU)

      Imagine speaking with such authority whilst simultaneously lacking such a basic understanding of Europe.

      Which 70 cretins upvoted this arse water?

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        So the EU isn’t allowed to cooperate with a country (that’s at least part of the single market and contiguous continent), because they saw no value in including Britain, and that was a scheming betrayal?

        What point are you failing to make here?

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          I don’t think that they’re refusing to cooperate. I think they’re looking after their own members and why wouldn’t they? Are you suggesting that they give the same benefits to member states as non-member states? If so, why wouldn’t everyone leave?

          Are you going to adress that you don’t know the difference between Austria and Switzerland or am I just getting suckered in to feeding the troll? Coz if you’re trolling then you’re actually very funny but I’m probably too autistic to tell.

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            It said ‘Australia’, not ‘Austria’. You know, ‘Australia’…the one in Oceania. Probably highlighting the ridiculousness of a country so removed from the continet feeling slighted for not being included in plans for the EU.

            You suckered yourself into looking like an arse.

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      FORGET Australia 🦘… They left out the Greatest Country in the Galaxy/Universe ; 'Merica!!!

      Even left it out in the comments section… Unbelievable

      SMH 😒🙄

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    “Scheming EU states” is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not “meddling” with their “freedom”!

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      If that idiotic and corrosive Brexit campaign had been defeated, the headline might be screaming how scheming EU nations drag the UK into their expensive transport plans.

      Also the same mindless parrots on their tellys and newspapers would be mindlessly arguing the point, tossing out word salads, exactly as they would with the EU making their plans and keeping the UK out of them.

      Meanwhile, non-voters who could have made a difference will be just as idiotic on polling day: “Politics is for wankers/both parties are the same. Shall we go for drinks?”

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      I found the wikipedia article:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_Transport_Network#List_of_transport_networks

      Apparently initial proposals for this pre-date brexit by 26 years.

      This is a Daily Express article. Utter trash, right wing yellow journalism. Rabidly pro-brexit, endorsed Liz Truss for PM. You know, the weird cheese lady who was outlasted by a lettuce.

      Obviously brexit isn’t going so well and neither is the latest tory PM, so it’s time for their daily article about how the foreigners done ruined Engerland.

    • 520
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      It’s the Daily Express, an offshoot of the Daily Mail. They both have ridiculously anti EU slants and have had those for decades

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        Every since the thought occurred to me I can’t stop thinking about it. There is just this entire class of people out there who do no real work, are paid money to tell us how they should be running things, and whose only plan in running things is to take something that works and break it.

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      Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.

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        Not really, though? There are no development plans for the new railways in the UK and furthermore the entirety of the UK is greyed out but all the independent area of Ireland is part of the map.

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          I think that’s the point, no? It’s unfortunately up to the UK now to do what they will with the transport systems the EU will hook them up with.

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            Listen, I’m not defending the article written by people who supported Brexit then got mad about how much of a shit deal Brexit is for them, but the point of the above comment is that the maps include arrows connecting to UK Railways, but that’s besides the point because the larger context of the discussion is about how a massive Railway Expansion project completely excludes the UK. It’s completely moot and irrelevant to talk about the existing railways.

            • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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              the larger context of the discussion is about how a massive Railway Expansion project completely excludes the UK.

              Why should EU project include non-EU states?

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                It shouldn’t, but that’s not what the discussion is about, is it? Somebody made a statement that it IS part of the plan, which is verifiably false.

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              the UK cannot be included, because they aren’t a Schengen-member and the EU doesn’t want customs checks on their train lines…

              it’s entirely up to the UK what they do with their rails within their borders.

              and as was already pointed out:

              there already IS a connection between the EU and the UK!!

              the new plans are largely for connections between capitals of EU countries and major population centers, both of which already have rail connections in the UK.

              so what do you expect the EU to do about the rail network in the UK?

              • 520
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                the UK cannot be included, because they aren’t a Schengen-member and the EU doesn’t want customs checks on their train lines…

                Ireland is also not a member of the Schengen agreement…

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                  Ireland is not connected by rail either, so customs don’t matter as much; you need to change the mode of transportation anyways

              • @[email protected]
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                Yes the rails are connected, but you should not be arguing to me that this means the UK is part of the plan when it very clearly isn’t. You’re arguing on both sides right now, I don’t think you’re in the right state of mind.

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              Huh? Apologies for being slow but what is your point?

              My neighbour redid their driveway, it completely excludes my driveway, obviously. We used to share a driveway mind you and we could have shared the cost of whe work on both our driveway but I got uptight because he let brown people use both our driveways. I told him driveways first, my driveway is losing its identity due to all the brown people and I got the whole neighbourhood to vote against shared driveways.

              Pretty fucking cunty of him to only redo his driveway now though innit?

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                I will go very slowly.

                1. The rails are connected

                2. The UK is not part of the plan

                There is no point in mentioning that the rails are connected in a discussion about the UK not being part of the plan. It’s just silly. It’s like talking about changes to cars and one person in the conversation starts talking about how the wheels have been the same for 14 years now.

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        These arrows already exist! The France one is the English tunnel and the Ireland one is there because they need to make Ireland feel like one island. The uk dont have much control over how well they connect to their border. I think the uk would have benefited from this plan as they seem to be having problems with trains

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      The UK doesn’t need to be part of this really, there’s one link to mainland Europe (the channel tunnel) and the rest should just be sensible UK road and rail network planning. NI and Ireland already have ways to cooperate when it comes to planning transport on the Ireland of Island.

      I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.

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        sensible UK road and rail network planning

        How many decades has it been since THAT last happened, though?

        I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.

        Oh. Same page, it would seem 😁

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        on the Ireland of Island

        Love this at what looks like 11pm on the day that’s in it as I write at 4am.

        Love you, neighbour. Sorry about the HS2 bullshit. Shambles tbh.

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      It’s wild to me how America, UK, and Canada are dealing with these idiotic right wing extremists or fans. It did not go well in the states, is still not going well, but people in other countries are all agreeing that yeah now is the time to be loud, racist, shitholes who make life worse for everyone with their stupidity??? What the fuuuck

      • Carighan Maconar
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        And you’d think at the latest when the Brexit happens and totally fucked up logistics, industry and the already ailing healthcare in the UK, the right-wing voters might have realized “Oh wait, maybe the people we’ve been voting for us have been lying and it was rather obvious with how they didn’t want to be associated with the shit they made us vote for after it actually worked out and they won the vote”. Nope. They’re proud of it. All the mean mean evil EU now being mean to lil’ ol’ England out of pure spite. Aye.

        (to be fair we already did that a long time ago when we banished them to a damp, sad and depressing island in the north sea)

        • @[email protected]
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          I heard on the radio this morning the government singing their own praises after reintroducing pint size bottles of wine. A “Brexit benefit”. This is after 99% of those surveyed said they wanted metric sizes. 99%!

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          The right wing voters won’t be happy until everything burns down so they can institute their shitty boring ass cishet white only vision of society.

      • @[email protected]
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        Step 1) blame everyone else for everything that’s wrong. Step 2) promise all the good things if only people vote for you. If they are actually gullible enough to do that we come to step 3) grab all the wealth you can and shift it to your cronies, smash anything too heavy to carry off and leave the opposition in a smouldering ruin that you can then again blame and berate the next government for.

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        All of Europe, and a bunch of other places, are swinging to the right. It’s not an Anglosphere thing, you just read english-speaking news more.

        Funny enough, the UK is in the process of swinging back leftwards again at the moment. Roll on the 2024 general election.

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        You know how the right-wing nutjobs have been frothing about a “new world order” conspiracy theory for a long time now? You know, the one about a secretive multinational cabal plotting to take over the entire world?

        Yeah… it turns out even that was projection, too.