• @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      Oh I’m so curious. What country, does that include urinary tract issues, or just reproductive stuff?

      • @[email protected]
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        Greece! I was exaggerating a bit, I was talking about OBGYNs. But there are 5-10 available doctors per month in a 1mil people province for example, so people tend to just go private.

        Dentists are completely off the table, of course.

  • @[email protected]
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    181 year ago

    how did we ever let it get this bad

    i mean really i know we’re a broken awful country but whenever this started in like 1890 how was the first guy who thought of this not taken out into the fields by a ragtag vigilante group

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    61 year ago

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    Laurazepam, @andlikelaura

    my favorite part about health insurance is how your teeth and eyeballs are add-ons

  • @[email protected]
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    731 year ago

    And ears. Not covered (in the USA, at least) because “just about everyone suffers hearing loss at some point in their life” (aka not a profit maker) so might as well not cover it at all for anyone, including those with profound loss from birth…

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        That’s true for literally everything in your body.

        It’s the reason why health care can’t be capitalist.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Capitalism isn’t interested in anything other than shareholder profits - access the provision of healthcare, food, shelter, you name it will only happen as a means to deliver those profits, and will stop the second there’s no profit to be had.

          At this point, nothing should be capitalist (we should focus on the provision of healthcare food and shelter, not deriving a profit from these essentials) - the incredible level of waste in the system is evidence of this.

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        For dental, at least, it’s because there are two ways to treat issues with your teeth: extract them or repair them.

        If you go to the emergency room with tooth pain because of some cavity that gets infected, a doctor there can and will extract it. And your insurance will cover this as a medical expense (unless the doctor was an actual dentist and charges as such). That’s also why wisdom tooth extraction is often covered by medical insurance.

        But if you want to preserve that tooth, you need a dentist, with specialized skills and tools, which are far more expensive.

        Insurance companies get away with not paying for dental work because “technically” you don’t need your teeth to eat, and “technically” you don’t need all of them to chew, and “technically” you can be perfectly healthy without any teeth at all. QED, they argue trying to save your teeth is a cosmetic expense.

        And they got away with that reasoning. And they still do.

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    Medical insurance absolutely covers your eyes and teeth, it just doesn’t cover optometrist or dentist services. It covers related medical doctor services, like ophthalmologists or periodontists. Also dental and vision insurance in my experience has been way cheaper and easier to use than medical insurance, I don’t want them to be part of my medical insurance lol

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      151 year ago

      Canada too. At least I can get a cheap pair of glasses online, but my god is the dentist ever expensive.

      • @[email protected]
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        121 year ago

        You can get teeth online, too. Even if they’re not the highest quality, they usually still have a reasonable amount of flavor left on them.

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            Why buy cheap but new when you can get a great deal on used? Plus, that new teeth smell is overrated.

  • @[email protected]
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    391 year ago

    The visible state of a person’s teeth is far too useful a proxy for their position in the socioeconomic hierarchy to ever be sacrificed by making dental care affordable.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’m blessed by being a white man with fat supple lips and also I can jump. But you almost never see my teeth.

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        Somehow you’re getting downvoted for this hilarity, but next time say black if you want upvotes. Everyone hates white people.

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    Public health care in Denmark has dental until you’re 18, maybe 21,IDK I haven’t been 18 in a while.

    Eyes are a mixed bag, if you need an ophthalmologist it’s covered, but glasses falls into the luxury department.

    So sorta the same idea about face stuff.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 year ago

      Super weird that glasses are considered “luxury.” Of course, it’s a luxury just to see clearly…

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    Kinda works that way under the NHS in the UK too. Eye and dental care are handled by private opticians and dentists.

    You can get financial assistance but most people don’t qualify. Working people generally have to pay for both themselves.

    Also you only get medication paid for if it’s a long term illness or you’re on financial assistance.

    Some hospitals used to have emergency dentists. Not sure if some still do but I know my local one doesn’t.

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      Still heavily subsidised, it’s not like we are paying “full price”.

      NHS dental charges

      There are 3 NHS charge bands: Band 1: £25.80

      Covers an examination, diagnosis and advice. If necessary, it also includes X-rays, a scale and polish (if clinically needed), and planning for further treatment.

      Band 2: £70.70

      Covers all treatment included in Band 1, plus additional treatment, such as fillings, root canal treatment and removing teeth (extractions).

      Band 3: £306.80

      Covers all treatment included in Bands 1 and 2, plus more complex procedures, such as crowns, dentures and bridges.

      https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/dentists/dental-costs/how-much-will-i-pay-for-nhs-dental-treatment/

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        And it has greatly improved British teeth. The old stereotype of bad British teeth was because of how things were before the NHS. My English father’s teeth were so bad that he ended up having to go to Costa Rica to get the surgery done because it would have cost $10,000 in the U.S. out of pocket. He was born in 1931, so the NHS didn’t even exist until he was 17, but he always considered it the greatest accomplishment that Britain had achieved (my father was also a die-hard socialist who bragged about how he booed Churchill when Churchill visited his high school). He’d be pretty appalled at the state of it now.

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        Yeah myself and several people I know haven’t been in more years than I’d like to say. When their estimates are more than $15k you decide to wait a bit longer.

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    I mean, really, how could anyone think that the abilities to eat and to see are in any way related to human health?

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      I can see their point if instead of being fleshy humans, we are androids without mouths and cameras instead of eyes.

      Then they can collect all the premiums and not have to pay out! Brilliant business strategy. Time to start converting people into robots.

  • @[email protected]
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    Isn’t it because they are different providers? I don’t go to a hospital to get oral surgery or an eye exam…

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          You need surgery for a really bad ingrown toenail. I’m guessing some sort of person with podietry experience would be involved.

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            I used to get really bad ingrown toenails, I had a podiatrist cut about 1/4 of that toenail out so it can’t grow back in that spot. I don’t remember it being very expensive at all. But this was 10 years ago

    • @[email protected]
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      You are pretty close. The American Medical Association, (AMA), and the American Dental Association, (ADA), are the 2 different medical organizations that represent each group. Originally, they tried to set up one association but the dentists decided to form their own group. This has lead to group bargaining with insurance companies. Which leads to separate policies being needed.

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        41 year ago

        You missed the part where Dentists are even greedier than your average Medical Professional.

        They remain separate because Dentist groups spend Million Bribing Politicians Lobbying every year to keep it that way.