I’ve legit gone back to cash for petty transactions. If I feel like throwing the change in the tip jar, I will. But there are no stupid prompts for a tip to deal with. Unfortunately, a lot of places are going cash free. Professional sports games is one example. Hey beer man, thanks for handling me my $12 beer. No, I’m not tipping for that.
So I understand why so many places like stadiums and airplanes are going cash free, but then I wonder if that’s even technically legal as cash literally says legal tender for all debts public and private.
The only place I ever use cash anymore is to fuel my sporadic video poker habit.
I damn near feel like a criminal using it anywhere else.
And the day you can go throw your debit card into a video poker machine is the day I stop gambling. As ferociously disciplined of a gambler as I am (and I am ferociously disciplined with my budgets) I cannot in any way see that eventuality as ending well for any customer.
Anywho, rambling tangents complete, I wonder if cash will remain viable over the forthcoming years.
Yeah, u definitely can’t budget gambling if they have a card with all your money on it. Maybe they’ll have what arcades have now where you buy a card, and load it with money or something. I also wouldn’t gamble in a cashless society. As it stands right now, you win a few bucks, you just get cash. If it’s all traceable, uncle Sam is going to want a cut of your winnings every time.
if that’s even technically legal as cash literally says legal tender for all debts public and private.
I’m guessing one could argue the right to refuse service to those not using their preferred kind of payment.
That’s correct. Legal tender can be used to settle all debts. In a retail transaction there’s no debt until a purchase agreement is made, so they can refuse cash before the agrrement.
That’s weird. My coffee is way cheaper at Dunkin Donuts and it’s counter service so I don’t fucking tip them.
Wrong. You tip for counter service now. You tip the gas station attendant for ringing up your bubble gum. Soon you will tip your doctor for giving you a prescription. Thanks Obama!
Wrong. You tip for counter service now.
Maybe you do, if you’re a chump!
How did Obama do this the fuck
People here who don’t remember the thanks Obama meme is very sad.
Anytime anything bad happened people would say “thanks Obama” then it got turned into a meme of people saying it when it didn’t even have anything to do with Obama.
It got so popular that Obama himself made a meme.
People don’t remember the Thanks Obama meme… Thanks Obama!
Haha. Somehow I haven’t seen that before. Obama was a very likeable person.
Edit: idk why I said “was”. He’s not dead. He is a likeable person.
Eh, Obama oversaw the expansion of our national surveillance state apparatus, so…not everybody felt he was very likable.
Oh, some of his actions were certainly not likeable, like your point, authorizing missile strikes, continuation of the war, extension of the Patriot Act, etc… But his personality was likeable and charming, which is more than I can say for most of the President’s during my lifetime.
It’s not that people don’t remember the meme; it’s that this guy seems like he’s saying it unironically.
False! Maybe your sarcasm meter is broken.
Maybe you failed to account for Poe’s law.
I cannot overcome the laws of reality. All I can do is place faith in my fellow humans to rise above the need for /s tags. I figured the line about tipping doctors for writing prescriptions, and the use of a common meme were clear indications that I was being sarcastic. But I get your point, and there is a lot of crazy on the internet these days (always has been, but it’s even more common now).
I tip every time I’m at a sit-down restaurant, and infrequently at other places (mostly local places, to keep them afloat - they have it harder than the food chains). That being said, if they want us to tip for just food prep and cooking, maybe make the food half-off, then we can tip them if the food is better than we thought? $5 burger…It was really good, I guess I will give them $9. $5 burger that is crap, well, it stays a $5 burger.
Or, hear me out, $9 burger no tip and I’ll come back if it was good.
I mean, that works too I guess. But, if they insist on asking for tips, that’s the only way I’m tipping at a no-service restaurant.
Most of the shops got it got $8 but I van imagine some of the “fancy” shop could sell it for $12
And that’s definitely just for specialty drinks, usually an up charge for additions and substitutes.
Black coffee vs a triple shot frappe with protein powder, oat milk, lavender mint syrup, on a raft, four-by-four animal-style, extra shingles with a shimmy and a squeeze, light axle grease, make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.
… you forgot the PICKLES!
Let me guess, that’s 8 dollaridoos witbout taxes.
A latte here in NL is still € 4 with no tip required
Yes but US lattes can be close to a liter.
What the fuck
Most of our coffee is drip. Sometimes cold brew. Espesso, cappuccino, Turkish, press, etc…we don’t do that much. Fancy coffee, sure, but not our “it’s Monday and I can’t even” coffee. Or our “it’s Tuesday and I can’t even” coffee, or so on.
Fast service shops and such will have “cappuccino” or “espresso” but I think it’s either concentrate or it’s just not the same.
We do have a serious unspoken caffeine addiction though. It comes from our Protestant work ethic while having our wallets bled dry. We end up with hustle culture and a stimulant addiction. Hooray!
Never buy coffee in the states if you’re from nz/aus or Europe. You WILL be disappointed.
We do have different types of coffee, but you might have to go to a specialty shop to get it like you do at home. If you’re talking about regular restaurants it’s probably good advice.
I’ve seen your different types of coffee. I spent 6 months in the states, all over. I had ONE good coffee in all that time. Went to thank the Barista - and she was Australian.
Wouldn’t you know it, I’ve been all over Europe and they don’t make it quite like I do at home either.
So what’s this Australian secret coffee? If you don’t tell me I know another Australian I can press.
Just order a flat white and get blanked confused face.
Honestly just stick with instant. American whatever isn’t that much better. And in America isn’t not like you’ll ever be afforded the time to enjoy, even if it were done right.
Now get back to work.
So are americans fat and lazy, or always busy and hyper work oriented? I’m losing track of the stereotypes here.
Interestingly, both. Americans are hyper work oriented because, you know, we’ve been trained since birth that if you don’t work, you’re going to suffer and die (and that’s partially true, yay barely affording apartments and food), but when we get off of work, we’re not going to work out, invest time in anything but watching the latest Hupeaflix show, and maybe brush our teeth before bed. Food comes out of a bag or box in the freezer, or maybe delivered with the expectation of a tip or your food gets there late, bitch.
I treated myself to a latte today and it was a bit over 5 dollars. There was no tip option on the pad. This was at Dunkin
Don’t visit their bathroom’s tho. You might get covered with human feces.
you can do that in any bathroom
Except in this case, its WAAAAAAY worse. https://www.businessinsider.com/man-sues-dunkin-toilet-explosion-trauma-florida-2024
I know men’s rooms have never been clean clean, but lately when I go in it’s like someone tries to piss all around the seat in the stall.
The urinal isn’t much better as there are clearly a lot of dudes who need a doctor to check up on their lack of water pressure so they dribble all over the floor.
I normally point myself in the general direction, close my eyes, and release, along with my hopes and prayers /s
But maybe it’s because people can’t tear their eyes away from their phones for even the time required to urinate, and so they really have no idea what happened, but the video they’re watching was hilarious.
It was a video of some jackwagon pissing on the seat.
Jesus
I stopped tipping. I dont feel ashamed about it at all.
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The barista is making 13$ per hour
And people complain that they are broke yet they continue to spend $$$ on things like cafe coffee
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Negative tipping
Coffee: $10 Service fee: $3.50 Toilet fee: $1.50 Tip (we recommend 125-250%): -$20 Credit card fee (10% of total):-$0.50 Total:-$5.50
I couldn’t tell you, I stopped going to coffee bars when the coffee became more than half my hourly wage, I’ll make my own coffee thank you very much.
Can’t even go to a McDonald’s anymore without spending at least $16, I’ve stopped going to McDonald’s and started ordering Applebee’s because if I’m spending $20 on a meal anyway I might as well spent $4 more on there two for 24 deal and get like three times the amount of food
I bought 4 double cheese burgers last night for less than 5 pounds. I’m in the UK though.
And have socialized healthcare (although poorly implemented).
The barista is a tablet
There’s a new coffee shop in Seattle that’s literally 4 robot arms making coffee at 4 different machines. There’s one guy in the store to keep things tidy, but that’s it.
Pay screen still asked for a tip.
so you actually tip the owner and just pay him extra while he’s doing coke and jerking off at home
Pay screen still asked for a tip.
Mother fuckers
At my local independent coffee shop the practice is that the baristas pay no attention and start working on your order as soon as you get to the tip screen so there’s no pressure to assign a gigantic tip. They also have much better beans than Starbucks, to the point that the founder of this shop spun off the coffee bean sourcing/roasting into a separate business that he continues to manage and now is the supplier of beans for every independent coffee shop for a 50 mile radius
This is why I got a cheap Aeropress and milk frother. I pay enough for my latte, and the barista makes as much as I do, stop judging me for not tipping. I tip servers, not counter workers.
I’ve had my aeropress for years and have a love/hate relationship with it. I go on streaks that make incredible cups, followed by the worst cups of my life when I inevitably forget the ratios or change grinds. I really do like it and wish I could be a snob but I just settle for my Nespresso (when it isn’t broken and needing warranty replacement, again).
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1 scoop grounds, heat water to 190f, fill water between 1 and 2 mark, steep 1 minute, press. Brilliance every time.
You could like, write down the ratio and coffee brand and such
I could but then I wouldn’t be able to justify my irrational need for a new coffee machine.
To be fair though, I’ve written it down and tried that. Maybe it’s my perception that changes or the little unaccounted nuances add up to big differences. Right now, I have a bold Cuban batch from Key West that tastes like burnt plastic no matter the amount of water or brew time.
Sounds like robusta…
If it is, there’s nothing you can do about the burnt rubber flavour. That’s a feature of the type of coffee
They make apps for that now: https://f-droid.org/packages/com.omelan.cofi/
I don’t mind tipping for any hospitality service, but what I really hate about fast food and cafe tipping is that they often collect payment and push for a tip before the order was made incorrectly.
It’s started to feel like a shake-down, honestly.
This.
So counter-intuitive and self-defeating…
Then they hand you a receipt from a printer that’s out of toner and you can’t even entertain the customer feedback route. It’ll dry up like the KFC and the Arby’s that occupied that lot before it.
That’s a good point. I also hate that about food delivery services. I tip my drivers well, but I don’t like that I’m often giving a good tip and not getting good service in return. If I’d have known I was going to get bad service, I would have tipped based on distance only and it would be significantly less.
Tipping in cash upon delivery is still the best thing to do.
I can’t remember the last time I paid anything in cash that wasn’t my kids allowance. But on top of that Skip the Dishes ( I assume door dash too, but I used to drive for Skip so I can say them for sure) shows the driver how much they’ll make on the delivery and if they don’t like it they won’t accept it. If I’m paying in cash then all they’re being shown is the base distance rate and they’ll all deny it.
DoorDash does this as well, and there is no way to adjust the tip if you received bad service. There used to be, but DoorDash found their model worked better if they don’t allow you to reduce your tip after you put in the order.
If you don’t get good service on GrubHub or wherever, you just complain to their helpline. They give you refunds.
Honestly I have no issues with 95% of delivery orders. And usually the issue is the restaurant’s fault.
But that blows for the consumer
95% success rate sucks? It sounds like this person just lives somewhere where all delivery sucks.
Plenty of people move to the middle of nowhere to “get away from it all” and then complain about the lack of service and conveniences. No, a few dollars tip is not enough to pay someone to drive 30 minutes to wherever you decided to live.
The pattern of tip before consumption and call support to resolve is worse than nearly any alternative.
No comment on your second paragraph, not applicable
In my experience they don’t refund if the driver is 20 minutes late because they went the wrong way or because they decided to take multiple orders. I’ve even had them drop my food off at the wrong place when I was standing right outside my door waiting for them. The people at the other place tried to tell the driver it didn’t belong to them but he just left it with them and left, my neighbour gave it to me. When I complained Door Dash said that because I got my order there was nothing they could do.
Door Dash
That’s the problem. Doordash sucks.
I have the option of Door Dash or Skip. I try to only order from places that have in house delivery now.
If you only have those options, it means you live in the middle of nowhere. How can you not have GrubHub or Uber Eats? Those are the only good ones. I would definitely use the in-house delivery before Doordash. Never even heard of the other one.
Sometimes it’s just a no win scenario, even with a refund it’s still a bunch of hoops to jump through just to be hungry and annoyed, but at no cost to you!
Been there too! My place isn’t even that hard to find, but it pisses me off when my kids are looking forward to some Edo and it never comes. The refund is fine, but we’re still hungry and now it’s 8 pm, now what am I supposed to do?
Or worse, a credit. Do you really expect me to keep your app on my phone?
Don’t forget that the autotip screens usually calculate that percentage after tax, which is wrong, and make it a pain in the ass to tip a percentage on pre-tax like it’s supposed to be done, so they’re dishonestly wringing even more cents out of you!
Do not tip the servers. It scares the sysadmins.
I laughed. Never as bad as spaghetti cabling though.
The spaghetti cabling forms a safety net to cushion the overloaded rack as it pulls away from the cinder block wall
Linux can run diagonally now
Not if you’re on wayland. It really does break everything.Vaxry implemented it in Hyprland a few days ago, which is not at all surprising from him.
Google en passant
Holy fuck.
- me with six accelerometers glued to my monitor -
“How do you get it to register as diagonal?”
Unfortunately it blinks black when it reorients, your continuous accelerometer feed may take some work.
I know that’s the only way to change how the system works, but at the same time my conscience yells at me and tells me that if I don’t tip them, they might not be able to buy a necessity because they don’t make as much as counter staff.
I feel like it’s a catch 22
It’s a joke about server computers
I don’t know computers lol
Today a 16oz caffè latte from Starbucks was $4.95 with no modifications.
Americanos used to be quite a bit cheaper than lattes. Which makes sense considering there’s no milk in them, save for any small bit of cream you put in. But sometime in the last two years they raised the price on americanos to be in line with lattes. I don’t go often, but when I do it stings to pay $6 for my drink.
You didn’t even get avocado toast? What don’t you care about the economy at all?
Illegal immigrants should put avocados in every pocket they have before they cross. Then when they get here, they can buy a house.
Christians should tithe in avocados so the Lord will always have a house when he has his followers eat him.
I don’t think they had that. I did see avacado cups, but no gluten involved.
Headline: Gen z Can’t Afford Houses Because They Buy Avocado Toast
Gen z: [stops buying avocado toast]
Headline: Gen z is Killing the Avocado Toast Industry
Now we just need a living wage for the customers
At least we’ve been always be allowed to strike by boycotting bad shops. What is the actual cost price of a latte over there?
We don’t really have this whole tipping thing here.
I’ve had coffee in two places recently. One was in a hypermarket. I don’t remember what the coffee costs there, because it came free with the meal. If the restaurant staff feel they don’t get paid enough, I don’t care if they get inspiration from France and torch every car in the parking lot. You see, I go to the hypermarket by foot. It’s not that far away.
The other place I had coffee recently was in the train. 2.80€. I certainly hope the restaurant car staff gets paid well. They’re technically railroad employees, after all. You don’t fuck with railroad workers.
I’ve never heard the term “hypermarket” before today, but according to Google that’s what these type of stores have been called since 1968 lol!
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Chris Bakke, @ChrisJBakke
The year is 2024.
You walk into your local coffee shop. A latte costs $12.
You have the choice of tipping 75%, 95%, or 125%.
You sheepishly tap “75%” and feel bad about yourself.
The barista shakes his head in disgust.