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How Disney and Warner Bros. Are Causing Internet Piracy to Boom | Platforms like Netflix, Hulu, and Disney+ were supposed to do away with pirated media. Instead, they may make them stronger than ever.::Platforms like Netflix, Hulu, and Disney+ were supposed to do away with pirated media. Instead, they may make them stronger than ever.
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Weird how an open source media streaming app works fine, but Disney can’t keep their app working on Android to save their lives.
I assume bullshit DRM has something to do with it, but I wouldn’t know because there’s way easier (and even legal!) ways to get media onto my server than that.
Please share. I dont understand where people get media especially legal nowadays. I would go to pirate bay if I need something.
Stremio+Torrentio add-on for streaming torrents.
I’m filling my wants of CDs and BDs from eBay, new stuff Amazon because I’m lazy. (then it lives on sans the case in a Case Logic binder)
Pretty straight forward for me.
I buy DVDs.
When they stop selling DVDs I’ll have to reevaluate.
There’s plenty of screen and audio capture technology that is immune to DRM (sending the signal across a primitive wire to a separate DRM-free device), check your area for legality, but I don’t think any non-asshole would disagree with your moral right to backup your digital purchases.
But at some point if they keep making it hard for me to pay money for media, well, yo ho ho, and avast!
Well to be fair, subtitles are often messed up on the open source one, but OH BOY you haven’t seen the state of Belgian streaming apps.
Casting doesn’t work on most, subtitles only work on 1/3 with some reality shows having burned in subs, tapping the screen in logical places to play/pause doesn’t work (like the giant play button in the middle of the screen when paused), one of them literally doesn’t even have a search function.
Ads are ridiculous, 10+ ads every 10 minutes. Not to mention that if you scrub at all instead of just forward/back, automatic ad break plays. Recently played just stopped being broken and giving wrong episodes. It is an absolute mess.
I download subtitles from addic7ed (shows) and subscene (movies). Rarely had any problems.
All this hasn’t forced me into piracy.
It’s worse than that.
It’s forced me to stop caring about shows or movies entirely.
Same, I’ll watch one every once in a while but in general I much prefer educational content and documentaries.
YouTube is my is DoC :)
I am most definitely far more passive in my consumption than before. YouTube is actually where most of my media comes from now. Then my colleagues are always on about the Masked Singer or whatever is going on. I managed to make it through maybe 2 episodes before it made me sick.
Same. I gave up on star wars after glub shitto was given to fake Luke at the end of that series. Just haven’t been able to care about the flood of B tier content after. Same with marvel after end game. There’s like 6 half assed shows and 8 movies or something now. It’s just too much filler and there’s no way I’m paying 3 or 4 services for mediocre content. I pirated everything in my early 20s and this feels like going back to the old times when the Internet was better. The nostalgia alone is making me happy to pirate again.
My coworkers talk about various TV shows and movies. I may not be able to keep up with the shows and miss out on the discussions, but fuck FOMO.
There’s been almost no movies that have come out that I’ve really cared about, nor.most of my friends.
I’ve found TV shows to be somewhat more compelling. But it’s been really hard to decide what to try to get into (limited time, partly).
But also the shared element isn’t there like it used to be. There’s just so MUCH stuff to watch, finding people to talk to about the stuff is harder than it used to be. That’s good in the sense of having choice, but worse in having the entertainment provide a connection to people and talk about. Which was always one of my motivators to watch stuff.
Plus games and YouTube and other things competing, and fragmentation of where stuff is, and corporate plbullshit turning me off, I just care less about long form shows being put out.
But people are definitely still watching tons and tons of shit. “Consuming” and “binging” is bigger than ever. I guess it’s just not us so much.
Find a watching buddy.
Will you be my buddy
I would but then I would be doxxing myself on the account that I use for promoting my naked hairy balls and terrorism.
Fair enough.
More stuff is switching to weekly rollouts and I end up not watching at all because of that.
There’s nothing wider than binging a show then getting the last episode 2 weeks later.
Binging shows is one of the reasons why we live in the entertainment hellscape that we have. When everything is instant gratification, it means less and it’s less enjoyable. Wait a week for the next episode creates excitement and ultimately more joy over the several year period it’ll take you to finish watching the show. The same goes for people. You’re more likely to have fond feelings for the person you’ve known all your life rather than the person you sat next to on the bus for a couple hours.
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I honestly haven’t heard a coworker mention a TV show since White Lotus last January. Not a single show.
I’ve talked about a couple with friends: Scott Pilgrim, The Last of Us, House of Usher, but generally I brought it up and really 2023 was not a very memorable year for TV shows.
TLOU was pretty good, although there’s literally nothing to talk about given how directly faithful it is to the game.
im glad i still care because i never let them josh me
The same thing happened to me. It’s really sad.
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This may come as a shock, but some people happen to enjoy content.
Crazy concept, I know.
I was sort of like this before, not really caring too much about most movies or TV shows, but that was just because I had higher standards to what I would be willing to take the time to watch. When I did find something I thought was worth my time, like for instance Full Metal Alchemist (yes I know it’s an anime, it still counts as a TV show imo. Also it’s great, I definitely recommend watching it). The general decrease in quality and increase in quantity of shows and movies just made me stop caring to watch really anything; why take a chance with a likely shitty show or movie when I can get much more fun out of playing video games? I know there’s likely some “hidden gem” kind of show that nobody really talks about because it’s hidden away in all the crappy shows, so I usually only decide to watch something if I’ve heard good things about it more than once. Even then, I may still not watch it, like for instance One Piece, which I’ve heard is incredibly long.
Hi, One Piece fan here. Yes, it’s really long and really intimidating to start. I haven’t watch most of the anime too, and never recomment others to watch it. I’m solely reading the manga (and live action).
I suggest waiting for the netflix anime readaptation that’s in production now. Logically, it should have better pace and much less filler than the first anime. It’s gonna be way easier to pick up than the first anime with its thousand episodes.
I suggest waiting for the netflix anime readaptation that’s in production now. Logically, it should have better pace and much less filler than the first anime.
I mean, it IS Netflix, so it shouldn’t be presumed to be better in any way. Still, I will try pirating it first, rather than giving Netflix any money beforehand only to find out it’s crap.
Other than A24, aint nothing really worth watching these days. Which is great, because I have a backlog of great movies and TV backed up that I’m going to spend the next couple decades crushing.
I’ve been reading a lot more.
Yes me too, I find myself watching movies less and less.
I find myself buying real books, ebooks online and buying vinyls.
I still stream music though, but the thing is, most music that could be found on Spotify, could be found on Apple Music or Deezer.
That’s odd. I find myself unable to keep up with all the movies I want to see. You should check out the Criterion collection.
most music that could be found on Spotify, could be found on Apple Music or Deezer.
As it should be. Compete witg additional features not with exclusivity.
Epic tries to do the same with Steam trying to strongarm the gaming community with free games.
And yet the users will still pay on Steam.
The answer is Stremio + Torrentio with Real Debrid.
NFL this weekend forcing you to have a Peacock subscription for a playoff game. Are you crazy?!?
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American foot-of-the-ball.
Not for life
First time I’ve seen … a paywall where trying reader mode showed an entirely different story
I’ve seen it a few times on different sites. Very strange. The strangest was when the different story was on the same topic, so I didn’t realize at first.
The article changed for you?
Same title, but in reader mode, the text started with
The Gullspång Miracle begins with documentarian Maria Fredriksson instructing her subjects, Norwegian sisters Kari and May, to do multiple takes of their opening scene—a stark vision of a filmmaker trying to manage her non-fiction material.
My household still subscribes to most streaming services at the moment, but I’ve often considered “alternative means of acquisition” just because it’s now such a pain in the ass to figure out which service has the content I want to watch. Things move around way too much and sometimes disappear completely. It’s just easier to go to one site, download, and watch.
I setup a Plex server with all the Arr’s and it took me maybe 1 hour and about $1500 in hardware such as a desktop PC and 4 x 10TB drives. Then I had to pay for a News Servers service ($100 for 15 months) and I opted to purchase a domain for like $7/year. Quite the upfront cost but easy to setup and maintain and I can watch anything I want with the best possible experience possible. If my internet goes down? I can still watch everything. When my News Servers subscription runs out, I still keep everything I have and can watch it as many times as I want. It’s so simple to use, my wife who LOVES TV now prefers ‘on demand’.
All thanks to the greedy fuckers running literally every streaming service.
for anyone afraid of the upfront cost: you don’t need to buy so many expensive hard disk drives to self host a media server like Jellyfin/Plex
RAID arrays add complexity and get expensive very fast while not being a proper backup solution at all, it’s nice to have but not requiredon a budget buying a large hard disk drive (12~16 TB is a good sweet spot right now) and later down the road another one as periodic backup solution might be the wiser choice while accumulating your collection of media
Raid is exactly as much or as little of a proper backup solution as you configure it to be isnt it?
Technically speaking, RAID is redundancy not backup. A proper backup is an archived copy of the data stored not stored in the same logical infrastructure as the primary data.
With a RAID you can swap in a new drive if one (or more, depending on your RAID#) drive in your RAID array dies. If enough of your redundancy in a RAID fails, you will lose data.
With a proper backup you can restore the entirety of the RAID array even if the original data has been physically destroyed.
With a proper backup you can restore the entirety of the RAID array even if the original data has been physically destroyed.
This was actually something i thought newer raid features included and is why asked the question!
Thanks for letting me know, im so far out of being in touch with current technology it makes me sad. But i still find i love listening to people like my brother explain to me the stuff hes always keeping up on that we had used in years gone by. Technology is so cool but its so hard to keep up with if you dont work with it professionally. Or have the time/capacity/talent and disposable money if you lack the ability for self learning.
We live in such a disappointing technologically advanced world of the future.
You just happened to get a reply from a former backup engineer who has had to explain this concept to customers.
Something else in the backup world that gets regularly misused: backups != disaster ecovery.
Disaster recovery is a whole plan of action. Backups can be a part of DR, yes, but I have had way too many companies consider their backups as the totality of their DR.
Well I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
I really wasnt thinking of backup more than a drive failing, which for personal use i think is what most people have in their heads.
I remember having to use rerecordable dvds each day at one of my early jobs and then the owner also having monthly back ups as well. For home entertainment i never really think of that kind of planning.
I imagine you are familiar with zip and jaz drives? I still kinda think of backups being something like that to some degree if im not actually thinking about it. Not those technologies per say but just something the average home user will never see and is kinda mythical?
They seemed so future tech to a much younger me. Like when you were on dial up and someone said they were able to use an oc3 line once! (Ah the 90s kids we were)
It basically only protects against hardware failure. It’s not going to protect you from ransomware or even just accidentally clicking delete.
Thanks. I was misunderstanding concepts here in a big way
I just download what I want to watch, watch it, then delete it. I have a 500gb SSD in my Mac, and about 30gb of it is currently taken up by Plex.
I’d also put that as a “nice to have”.
I’ve upgraded my server similarly. But I initially just plugged Unraid into an old (~2012) desktop with a handful of old 1-2 terabyte drives. It’s super easy to spread out the cost over time. I just moved machines and it was literally as simple as having all the same hard drives plugged into the new machine.
Yup, good point. You don’t have to buy a new desktop with the latest Intel CPU with massive storage. You can start small and upgrade as needed. I know I wanted this solution so I invested to make sure I had something I can use for a long time. I got a desktop with a 12th gen i5 so it can do transcoding though it’s not needed.
That’s a big duh. I saw this coming four or five years ago.
What Usenet groups are people using these days?
Give https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy a try!
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Ahh, I was trying to figure out how that worked on Fediland. You just opened a door for me on the Fediverse.
I also recently started pirating again. The cost is too damn high for all these streaming platforms, not to mention a lot of the base packages have ads/commercials (gross). I use Stremio+Torrentio+Real Debrid (which is insanely cheap compared to purchasing 6 different streaming platforms). Until there is a massive change to how media is circulated this is gonna be my setup.
I pay 16€ for my torrenting and another 7 per month for usemet and can have almost every movie, show and media I want.
Exactly
My biggest question is despite how expensive Disney+ is and their huge subscriber base, how are they not profitable? Nebula is a fraction of the price without any ads and plenty of originals and is quite profitable despite having under 1 million subs.
They are profitable. Just not profitable enough.
No, they actually aren’t profitable.
From https://arstechnica.com/culture/2023/12/its-shakeout-time-as-losses-of-netflix-rivals-top-5-billion/
“Disney, the largest traditional media company, is in the midst of a gutting restructuring that has featured 7,000 job cuts and attacks from activist investors. It lost more than $1.6 billion from its streaming businesses in the first nine months of 2023, during which its Disney+ service gained 8 million subscribers. The company says it will turn a profit in streaming in late 2024.”
They spent $350 million making Secret Invasion, which was a bad show in every way. They have no control over their costs, yet they squeeze everyone as hard as they can.
Can’t read the article (acts like it’s paywalled but the paywall doesn’t even come up,maybe ad blocking is borking it), but let me guess… Every time a show gets big, someone splits it off into a new sub service, and people are getting sick of that shit and pulling the plug on the people they pulled the plug on cable for…
My kids hit me up for yet another subscription last week, because they wanted to watch a show. I was very close to cancelling everything instead, and teaching them some slightly sketchy skills, but I took the “high road” on it. They’re getting close to the age where that ain’t gonna happen anymore though :)
Consolidate yo shit media dudes. You got a finite limit on how many pieces of the pie can exist. When the slices get too small because you cut it into too many slices, nobody buys a slice anymore…
I will pay for one streaming service, if your content isn’t available on there it will be on my jellyfin and my kids are happy to use that.
This is roughly where I’m at. I’m paying for one, maybe two. That’s it. After that I’m not gonna waste my time, esp. when a VPN is cheaper and can give me better overall service.
Who even needs a VPN?
at least everyone in the US, probably in several other countries as well
But, but, but, I thought the US was the land of the free…
… companies?
I started having the piracy discussion with my kid today. First lesson: until you understand computer security, piracy always comes with the risk of nuking your system.
Once you understand computer security, piracy always comes with the risk of nuking your system.
Know how to rebuild your system before you get spicy, and let’s talk about network provisions too.
I nuked my system once. I was 5-6 years old and I deleted system32 to make space for SimCity 2000. PC didn’t turn on after resetting.
I’ve downloaded stuff and pirated media from the internet since I was like 10 (no internet access before that). Never have I ever nuked my system from piracy, even if I may have downloaded a virus or two (without notable consequences).
I feel like clicking ads on YouTube nowadays or downloading random crap from the play store is more dangerous for your security than piracy is. I respect your decision though!
Not if you hang out in the right places. There are some trust rings where you can procure media by alternative means with absolute security and peace of mind. But it’s a club and you ain’t in it.
I’m past 40. I don’t give a fuck about TV or movies anymore. Disney is in trouble.
I’m in the same boat. I feel like everything is just regurgitated over and over again. Every twist, every turn. And I’m tired of watching something and be able to predict, what the plot will be. It’s the same with music. Many songs are written to perform by metrics, like length and listener retention in the first 30 seconds, so that you reach the magical monetization line on the streaming platform of your labels choice.
It’s always been this way. We’re just old enough now to see the cycle for what it is.
No, I don’t believe that to be true.
Writing these shows is now so industrial that inspiration is never the driving factor.
It’s the difficult second album problem. Your first album was a big success because you’d been polishing the tracks for 5-10 years whilst you were trying to get noticed. Youve now got 6 months to write the next album.
TV and film writers are never given the time to properly develop ideas because the industry needs more content now.
We are saturated in low-quality media these days, most of which is predictable and poorly written. We’ve seen all the whiz-bang CGI, the standard plots, the trite romantic scenes, the heroes and the anti-heroes. Movies, in particular, suffer because of their short format. Movies essentially rely on stock characters and formulaic plots because there isn’t enough time available for a complex story arc or character development. Because of that, I’d wager that well-planned limited series are more popular than movies among people over 40.
So much this! None of it is worth our time. The Hollywood capitalism machine has just gotten really good at making people believe that every film or show is going to be the next important cultural touchstone and if you don’t see it you will be left out. But after it goes off the air and people stop talking about it, none of it really mattered. “Fast content” is like “fast fashion” - designed to be disposable and to keep consumers paying for it over and over.
I had almost gotten to the point where I could reasonably pay for most stuff and didn’t have to steal shit that wasn’t even available “in my market”, which, as a concept, can go fuck itself entirely to death as far as I’m concerned; but now everybody’s being dicks to each other and core content is leaving platforms I’m paying for and moving onto platforms i’m not allowed to use, so, no, it’s not the fault of the big guys per se but the collective and progressive brain death of the entertainment industry, whose obscene copyright regime is finally biting it in the ass but they’re still reeling from their latest cocaine decision and haven’t figured out why they can’t sit down yet. … I think that’s the longest sentence I’ve ever written.
But it doesn’t even matter. As soon as the competition dies down and things settle into a pattern, they’ll start putting the screws to us anyway, because that’s just what capitalism is. Enshittification ftw!
Power to the pirates, the only ones making all content accessible to everyone.
Meh. None of it is worth watching anyway. The older you get the more you see it’s all trash and always has been trash.
Lol all available movies and all available tv shows from all time are trash?
“I don’t subscribe to ‘sPoTiFy’ or ‘aPpLe MuSiC.’ When I hit 22 I realized music SUUUUCKS.”
To write off entire art forms is…an interesting position to take.
When you grow up you’ll see
I’m old. I love music, I love film, I enjoy the craft of writing and appreciate what it takes to write a story that will play out visually and be spoken aloud and embodied by different types of artists and then lit by another type of artist and shot by another type of artist.
Age has nothing to do with liking art. Taste does. You either hate art or you just are very bad at finding things to enjoy.
That’s going to have to wait. In my 40s now, and still waiting for the “when you grow up you’ll be conservative” to happen.
While I agree with your sentiment, there’s no need to yuck anybody’s yum
I think a majority of people would say that every single new Marvel, Star Wars, and DC product is shit.
Hey no yuck shaming
That’s even more of a reason for me to pirate. I have access to pretty much every TV show, movie, book, comic, etc that I could possibly want from before my existence til now. I can get to it from anywhere in the world and i know that i’m not just gonna arbitrarily remove it. I can also get specific releases or better formats. I have scripts to easily remux audio or subtitles or whatever I want. I’ve even learned how to Web-DL from services I get for free from my ISP and cell carrier. My Plex server is definitely better than any single streaming service and I have quite a bit of stuff that isn’t on any. Would never choose to go back at this point with how convoluted and expensive streaming is now.
