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AI-Generated George Carlin Drops Comedy Special That Daughter Speaks Out Against: ‘No Machine Will Ever Replace His Genius’::Stand-up comedian George Carlin has been brought back to life in an artificial intelligence-generated special called ‘I’m Glad I’m Dead.’
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This is hilarious; everyone saying Carlin would hate this is essentially putting words in his mouth just like Dudesy did, but Dudesy put a lot more effort in.
Excellent point.
No, they’re just extrapolating what someone’s feeling on something might be. That’s pretty different than creating an entire comedy special using the voice of a dead guy.
But what does the dead guy have to say about it?
Nothing, he’s dead.
Nobody knows, but he’d probably hate it. I certainly wouldn’t want to put any words in his mouth, then use a computer program to imitate his voice so it seemed as if he were saying those words.
I feel like as an anti capitalist (on the outside) nihilist anarchist insane fuck the world comedian, who is dead, he can’t care. If his daughter can’t sue then this is a circle jerk. When I die what my arrangements take care of is as much as I can control, after that who gives a fuck. I personally think he’d laugh his ass off.
Why do all of the comments make it seem like people think that someone asked chatgpt to write a George Carlin routine or whatever? A human person, not a computer, wrote some comedy in (what they felt) was in the style of George Carlin. The technology portion of this was the cloning of Carlin’s voice to “perform” the routine. And you can feel however you want about either part of that. I mean, seems like you’d have to be pretty far up your own ass to think you can just put your own words into the mouth of someone else, especially someone who is no longer in a position to call you a fucking idiot, or not. But the story that people are commenting on, sure seems to be quite different to the actual events that occurred.
As far as the actual story, they know what they did. They know full well that they could have actually did a Carlin impersonation if they had wanted. They could have written their material, went up on stage, said exactly want they were doing, performed their bit, dressed up for the part, hitting as many of the mannerisms as they could. A real, actual, proper attempt at an impersonation. They could have done that, and almost no one would have cared. A few people might have been upset about it, as there always are. But largely, no one would have batted an eye.
But they didn’t do that. They did this. They did this, knowing full well that the claim of it being an “impersonation” was bullshit. And knowing full well what the response would be. And it was exactly the response they wanted. All of the attention and outrage they are getting directed at them right now? That was the point.
No one cares if it’s right or wrong … absolutely no one cares what anyone thinks about any of it, about ethics, morals, respect or rights.
All anyone cares about is how much money it’s going to make.
We should install a turbine onto Carlin’s coffin because he’s probably spinning so fast right now, he could power New York City.
This has happened with the estates of famous people for a long time. It didn’t start with the current trend of deep learning systems.
Tupac’s estate has mined every single little recording he did and pressed it to an album. Gene Roddenberry’s notes got turned into two series (Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda), both of which started pretty good and slowly degraded over time. The Tolkien estate was held back by Christopher for a long time, but now he’s gone, the remaining heirs are happy to rake in the cash, and they’re being thoughtless about what they greenlight (like the Gollum game) (oh, and there’s only about 20 years for them to keep the copyright, which isn’t that long; Peter Jackson movies were about 20 years ago).
Franz Kafka instructed all his unpublished manuscripts be burned when he died. GRRM has instructed that even if he doesn’t finish A Song of Ice and Fire before his death, it will not be picked up by another author to finish. These are wise people.
A notable exception would be Robert Jordan and his Wheel of Time series. He prepared notes so someone could finish the work and his widow picked Brandon Sanderson to finish the series. But I think it feels easier to milk it than to be thoughtful with the life’s work of someone, as this requires a lot “would he have liked it” and to know this you would have to start caring early.
Literal ghouls.
Fuck whoever did this. That podcaster… Wtf ever. I couldnt even finish reading the article. I am seething with rage at this so hard I’m shaking. I hope the creator of this abomination gets sued so badly, their great grandchildren curse their name because of the inherited debt.
Fucking asshole.
I listened to the first five minutes, and it’s pretty similar to Carlin’s later work.
I’m not clutching my pearls about this any more than Steamboat Willie going into the public domain.
Intellectual property rights are silly, and protecting dead entertainers’ legacies is a waste of time. If a Carlinbot makes a good joke, good for the Carlinbot. What I heard wasn’t very impressive.
Don’t worry, pearls will be clutched anyway. Our society is hungry for outrage.
Those are two very different issues. Steamboat Willie belongs in the public domain as it’s copyright has long been expired. Disney has done some shady shit to keep control over their copywritten material for far too long. It’s good they backed down over that bullshit.
US Copyright law says their work only goes into the public domain 70 years after the creator’s death. Carlin passed away in 2008.I’m bad at math, but uhh…it hasn’t been 70 years yet… right? Or did we all go through a time warp again?
This is just yet another example as to why AI companies need to pay for the data they collect. The artwork and written work displayed on the web still falls under copyright law and thusly the works can only be utilized with express consent from the creators. And yes, until it falls into the public domain.
Now, you could argue that 70 years is too long for copyright to expire. I am open to such an argument. But that simply isnt the case right now for Carlin’s work. Thusly, the creator of this ”work” should indeed be sued (rather brutally imo).
Lastly, even if all this was legal, it’s in incredibly poor taste to do this. It’s one thing for a comic to take inspiration from Carlin, but it would be in poor taste for that same comic to steal his work. This is in even poorer taste from what I see. What a fucking sack of shit this creator is. I hope he dies slowly from sepsis.
Nah, you’re wrong. Fuck protecting creators from AI. Let the internet become a circlejerk of bots gobbling each other’s digital cum.
When a good comedian comes along, I’ll go see a live performance. The same goes for musicians, painters, novelists, whoever. Anyone old enough to remember the internet of the '90s will tell you what a derivative shithole it has become already. It’s only getting worse. Artists will adapt and monetize things that AI can’t ruin the market for.
Analog human culture can be fun in ways that no chatbot will ever know.
Yeah, based off your post history, I don’t value your opinion all that much. And I’m sure the feeling’s mutual.
But hey, you do you, troll.
Don’t get defensive about this.
AI will gobble up all intellectual property and shit out something similar. Over and over over.
Stopping it isn’t an option. And it isn’t society’s job to protect intellectual property owners from new technology in the first place.
Living creators will be able to make a humble living through live appearances and physical media, the same as they have for the last couple of centuries.
This isn’t about your ego, peanut. Your position is the wrong one.
It sounds a lot less like George than I expected.
It’s his voice… But holy shit you’re right. It didn’t sound like him at all.
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@L4s I will not comment on the ethics of this, but I will say that if I had heard this without being told it’s AI generated (and the do tell you, at the start and again at the end) and if I didn’t know Carlin was dead, I would easily have believed it was him doing this bit. Now I was never a big Carlin fan (I pretty much only heard what could be played on the radio, and most of his stuff didn’t fall into that category) so maybe someone more acquainted with his material would have noticed differences, but to me it was a scary good impression of him.
I have to wonder if the daughter doesn’t like it because she realizes that she’s (I assume) still getting some small amount of payment when people buy his older stuff, but as much of his material was topical I’m guessing those payments are ever diminishing, and she may fear that AI impressions of him will diminish the sales of his older stuff even further. Either that, or possibly it’s unsettling to her that a machine could come that close to making a spot-on impression of her father. I guess if someone created an AI of my dad saying things that he never actually said when he was alive, I would also find it somewhat unsettling and maybe even a little creepy.
I’d also be interested to know exactly how much of the creativity behind this (the script) was created by the AI and how much work there was on the part of humans to make it sound natural. I get that AI can make the audio, that’s pretty much a given now, but where did the script come from?
Honestly he’s a fairly offensive choice as a first target for this sort of venture, but I haven’t watched the thing yet. Doesn’t seem likely it’ll be full of the cutting political satire we associate with him, and the jokes I’ve seen posted from it are tepid af.
Of course they can’t. But they can and will exploit every single word he’s ever said. Then exploit every idiot who gives said AI product and sense of their attention.
Gotta be a dick here though. If they listen to the honestly lying charade running now then they didn’t hear him when he explained the first time.
I listened to it and it’s genuinely not bad (on a content and voice synthesis level), to the point that I have a hard time believing it was entirely AI-generated. If it’s not a fake ghostwritten by the creators, it must have been heavily rerolled and edited to make it so coherent.
Fully agree. There’s absolutely no way his whole bit about guns was generated from an LLM, while including the tangent about Japan. There had to have been a significant amount of leading prompts to get it to that point. At which point, whoever developed those prompts gets (at least partial) credit as a writer
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I listened to it and it’s genuinely not bad
Of course not. Its predicated on the collected works of a decades-long professional comedian.
If you re-mixed a new screenplay using the combined works of Shakespeare (and called it, idk, West Side Story or 10 Things I Hate About You or The Lion King) you could put together a blockbuster movie fairly easily, too.
If it’s not a fake ghostwritten by the creators, it must have been heavily rerolled and edited to make it so coherent.
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“No Machine Will Ever Replace His Genius”
OK, but it’s the closest that we can get at the moment.
Why do we need to get closer at all? He lived, gave us a ton of laughs that we can still enjoy, and died. Leave it at that.
Maybe some enjoy this new content, why gatekeeping?
“Gatekeeping”??? The man is dead. That’s not gatekeeping. People don’t need more “content”, and certainly aren’t entitled to it over his family’s wishes. There’s gotta be a moral floor somewhere.
Maybe listen to one of the many, many other human topical comedians out there today instead?
Because it’s a hot button topic and all the smart people seem to echo this same sentiment.
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“I just want to let you know very clearly that what you’re about to hear is not George Carlin. It’s my impersonation of George Carlin that I developed in the exact same way a human impressionist would"
No, was not developed in the exact same way a human would work, because it’s not human. Should we let pitching machines play pro baseball now, just because they can throw any pitch with pinpoint control?
False analogy falacy. Comparing AI impersonation to pitching machines in pro baseball involves dissimilar contexts and functionalities.
AI-based tools makes creating certain content easier, why being pissed at that? The guy who created the imperson clearly stated that the content was AI generated so there is no intended deception. He even wrote the script himself.
It’s like being pissed at a baker for using an electric dough kneader instead of his hands to make bread, as it’s not made in the exact same way a human would work.
It’s not the exact same way, but it’s still essentially the same outcome. Your pitching machine example doesn’t make sense because AI doesn’t do anything with pinpoint control.
This objection is similar to saying photography isn’t an art form; all you do is point and press a button. In reality there is a lot more to it than that.
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Should we let pitching machines play pro baseball now, just because they can throw any pitch with pinpoint control?
This is how we end up with Blernsball
The blerns are loaded, the count’s three blerns and two anti-blerns and the infield blern rule is in effect, right?
Except for the word “blern” that was complete gibberish.
BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNN!!!
MULTI-BALL! MULTI-BALL! MULTI-BALL! MULTI-BALL!
The man was a genius for sure 100% I loved every bit of all the shit he said.
