“ubuntu user snaps your finger off”
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Is it just me who chuckles when all the peeps here confirm the meme by their “BuT Me ArCh NeVeR bRoKe” posts all super serious and not at all a little butthurt? <Insert trollface>
well, you don’t complain when your hammer does a shit job at driving a screw. (well, maybe you do, but thats on you)
One is consumer focused,
the other is bleeding edge.For all the memes, Arch has not once broken on me.
You never update it? :)
#!/usr/bin/sh # break-my-system.sh pacman -Syyu
The grub thing got me, but I just switched to systemd boot and moved on. I got to learn about bootloader’s, so that was fun!
Yeahhh, I really don’t need bleeding edge software on my daily driver box. If you enjoy doing post mortems on logs, more power to you, I have things to do.
After two weeks on arch, nvidia driver updates have broken shit twice already.
But that’s the arch way and I chose the arch way.
I always thought it might be hardware related. So far i have always bought AMD cards and had no issues.
In 5 years on arch I have never had an nvidia driver update break anything.
I had it screw my system so hard it didn’t boot and I had to use the installer to uninstall the driver and boot with the generic one. A couple days later it broke steam and the advice on the arch forums was to downgrade, which I did (to a version before the one that didn’t let me boot).
Now here I am, with an nvidia driver that’s intentionally outdated because the current version is broken. Just like on windows.
WELL ACKTCHUALLY…
But jokes aside: How do you people break your Arch system so often? I’m on Arch since 2012 or so and it never really broke for me. Also, anyone who can read will be able to fix the ~1 time a year required manual intervention.
Arch is DIY, so you’re supposed to know how to fix it.
I wonder the same. I can only guess but probably that they don’t update the whole system when installing new stuff.
Nice meme.
From what I know about these distros (Debian, sometimes Fedora user here), Pop is targeted for “normal” home users, while Arch has traditionally been for hackers. From that point of view, it makes sense that breaking the former would be seen as less acceptable for the wider community.
I would say pop is for new users, arch is for users that know what they want and willing to put in the time, i wouldnt say its “for hackers”.
picking an arch based distros thats already built for you though is the easy way to go if you want a linux system for gaming. I tried using pop for a while. it was ok but ultimately a rolling release system was better.
The “Arch breaks all the time” people have obviously never used Arch.
I’ve run Arch as a daily driver for the last 4 and a half years and haven’t had any issues. I’ve tried Pop_OS twice in that time and had install-breaking issues within a week in both cases.
Only time I’ve ever broken my ~10 year arch box is when I don’t read the news feed
where is the news feed? I just had my arch laptop wiped out and it’d be nice to avoid it next time
Archlinux.org They will post if theres anything requires manual intervention
I used arch for 1.5 years and it did break a lot. Though I did use nvidia, so it was to be expected.
Switched to Nixos yesterday because it was kind of anxiety-inducing knowing my main computer was sitting on a time bomb that only got worse as time went on, as I toyed with the system more and more
Absolutely loved arch though, and I hope I’ll love nix as well
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Literally switched off nix today because of a few mandatory (for me) packages were broken and I already regret it. Nix is such an awesome is and its impossible to break. Unlike Debian that fucked itself because rfkill wasint installed and that borked my networking on my PC. Couldn’t start my nic or anything and stayed up til 2 am trying to fix til I said fuck it and re-installed. Switching back to nix tomorrow!
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YMMV
I run Manjaro with KDE on X11… I use a lot of mouse gestures, so I can’t sit with Wayland.
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I found the SYSTEM is extremely stable for ME. It is important to say this every time…
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I find KDE is often less stable… I had at least 2 issues I couldn’t explain/understand and just fixed with restoring contents of .config from snapshots.
This is one area where Manjaro ‘held back’ and did actually save us from a lot of the bleeding edge (5.26 was a rough ride)… but that’s not an ‘Arch’ issue, that’s a ‘KDE’ issue.
But the USER likes to tip the boat until it does a barrel roll, or sinks entirely… and this is mostly what divides the happy users. Sometimes it’s just basic hardware, sometimes it’s the USER habits/modus operandi.
So we have Snapshots, and we have rsync backups to a mounted drive… Then it matters not - a quick restart fixes most issues, and a reinstall takes only 6 minutes with no data lost -> in backups.
That’s stable enough for me.
BTW, I use AUR quite a lot - and it never actually caused me an issue, other than some stuff needing rebuilds.
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the subtle difference is that distros like Pop try hard to aim at home computer normie users or new to Linux, Arch doesn’t. 99% of Arch fault cases are also user’s fault.
Can confirm, I am a dumbass often.
I used to run into updates breaking dependencies, like Gimp not working after an update and such but since switching most my programs to be Flatpaks I had very few issues.
What the heck are you guys doing? I’ve been using Arch for over 5 years on many different computers and an update has never broken my system. I was even impressed that I was able to update my desktop with NVIDIA graphics after 6 months of it being unplugged.
Are you sure you installed the system correctly at all?
Imma be real… Arch has been the most consistent system I’ve used to date.
I’ve been using linux off and on since like 2008. I jumped around from ubuntu, fedora, opensus, popOS, centOS, etc… I’ve had manjaro and now arch as my daily driver for probably 4 or more years now and Arch updates have only ever broke one thing, one time, and it was more of a audio pipewire issue than it was really archs fault.
arch updates do not deserve this slander, its been very reliable for me, more than probably any system i’ve ever used.
