Let me know when Hart starts doing comedy.
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Why’s that?
Looking around it looks like he made some homophobic jokes in the past.
At, that’s good. Always appreciate it when an actor I dislike does something unacceptable so my hatred can finally be justified to everyone else.
Same. He’s become the token “loud and safe black guy” in random white people movies.
It’s always terrible comedians like Kevin Hart who complain about “PC Culture” or “being woke”. And it’s because they are terrible at comedy. They can no longer fall back on just saying something racist or sexist or transphobic “as a joke” instead of actually working on material.
There are a ton of great comics out there, but these guys? No, these guys’ time has long since passed.
Name a good one
Anthony Jeselnik would be hilarious as a host of any awards show
Every now n’ then I unhide a comment that was hidden by my Hexbear instance block and am instantly reminded why I have a Hexbear instance block.
Wait, you’re bothered by someone saying Kevin Hart is a shitty comedian? Have I read this right? I hate to say it, but if that’s enough for you to be mad at the ebil hexbears, you should really probably just keep us blocked
Honestly, I’m bothered by how aggressive and negative you guys are. Just aggression and negativity all day every day. Got sick of it.
I’m seeing just one aggressive and negative person in this particular reply thread, and it’s not the Hexbear user (for once).
Really weird to me the things lemmy libs choose to get offended by. I feel like we regularly post communist things that libs hate, but they only seem to point out the really benign shit.
“I dislike Kevin Hart and prefer comedians that don’t rely on bigotry to get their jokes to land” -An opinion so foul it deserves an instance wide block, apparently
Reminds me of that one furry instance that defedded us because of a thread where we dunked on george bush and the iraq war
show us your dick
HAHAH… You just volunteered to be a mole in the “Whack-A-Mole” game you silly goose!
You should either stop doing that or get better takes then lol.
Thank you for baiting more of them chuds so we can block em.
No loss here. Take your jokes and go home. Soooooooo many others who would love the chance.
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Did you think they meant themselves?
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I have no jokes and I must slur…
My only rebuttal to this, is the whitehouse correspondance dinner. That’s the whole point of comedy.
Jeselnik said something to this point when he mentioned the Boston marathon bombing. What’s funny about the bombing, nothing. But that’s why there comedians who can find humor in the darkest of places.
Pretty sure Seth Myers caused Trump to run for President tho. Or maybe it was his opening act
I would say Jon Stewart was more influential for Trump running for president. Stewart had him on the Daily Show multiple times trying to lampoon Trump for being a birth certificate denyer towards Obama. Steward continually egged him on, well if you can do better why don’t you run for president?
It’s Nick Mullen’s time to shine
Jesus, every comedian whines about how they can’t make offensive jokes anymore. Just recently watched a comedy special from 2008 where they spend the first 15 minutes doing exactly that while making offensive jokes and getting lots of laughs.
…it’s not 2008? We’re more than a decade past that? Does “anymore” have a different meaning you?
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Yes.
Billy Crystal hosted a bunch of times in the 90’s and was well received because his humor wasn’t edgy, just light and fun.
Yeah, I don’t understand why every award show needs to be a roast now.
Becasue their viewership has cratered in the past few decades. They need the edgy MC to get people to watch.
Billy Crystal did it for a long time, he counts as a comedian
I’m not really understanding the article. Does it mention he was asked to host this year and declined? It almost seems like he’s putting it out there because
A. He’s trying to build controversy so that he’s asked and can either publicly decline or “relunctantly” accept and say that he only did it under the condition that he could say whatever he wanted.
Or B. He asked and they turned him down so he’s saying he never wanted to anyway.
It all sounds fake. He has all the connections he needs to be able to host.
Eh, barely anyone watches these award shows anyway. It’s wealthy narcissism voting for other wealthy narcissists.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. People are too easily offended nowadays.
How arrogant do you have to be that you feel that everyone has to only do / say things that don’t offend you?
What you’re seeing is that people no longer feel the need to keep their mouth shut when they don’t like the joke. In previous generations, they had no platform and, in some cases, their physical safety was at risk. Social media has given them a voice and community where they can share their opinion.
At the same time, corporations only give a shit about profits, not art. They’ll chase whatever makes them more money. If they don’t think that people will watch something, they won’t fund it.
Combine those and you have folks willing and able to tell corporations they won’t buy something they don’t like. But, of course, that can be outweighed by actual purchases. Netflix keeps shoveling money at Chappelle; people must be keeping their subscriptions to watch him. Substack recently announced they’ll host and monetize Nazi newsletters. J.K. Rowling continues to be Andrew Tate for women and pulls huge residual checks.
So if you want more offensive things in the world, seek it out and pay for it. Corporations will churn it out if there is demand. Just don’t expect people to only judge you quietly; they have tools to be loud now.
Dark comedy still exists, but the lazy comedy stylings of my 50 yo homophobe, racist uncle seems to be out of fashion. These old guard stand up comics aren’t funny anymore and no one is obligated to buy tickets to their shows.
Does anything offend you?
Yup, but then I just don’t consume that stuff
Oh so people should know whether a person or situation will offend them before they get offended?
They should realise that if it offends them, then stop watching or consuming. Stop purposely misinterpreting what I say.
Well to be fair you don’t really do a good job of explaining yourself.
What’s there to explain? Just don’t consume things that offend you. Simple enough, I’d think.
“The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego one’s own.” -The Satanic Temple’s Fourth Tenet
However. I also believe the right to be offended is one of the freedoms we all have. There’s a lot of discussion over what this tenet truly means. I believe it should work hand-in-hand with the other tenets, which include “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone,” “one should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason,” and “every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.”
I take it to mean that yes, you do have the right to offend, but also to be offended when someone violated your own personal freedoms. To say something that challenges someone’s understanding of the world may offend them, but that doesn’t mean its wrong. However, the use of the freedom to offend should be used sparingly, and with caution.
But if we start telling people they’re not allowed to say things that are offensive to us, then that same logic can turn back on us later when we say something offensive to them. Pretty soon, nobody will be allowed to say anything. People should be free to express their opinions, so long as they abide by the rest of the tenets, in my opinion.
But, that doesn’t mean we need to give people who are out to offend others bigger platforms to spread their messages. We don’t even have to listen to them.
I’m reminded of the famous Voltaire quote, “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
This is a complex topic, and I’m worried I’m not making my message clear enough here. Let me try to boil it down to a more direct response.
I do not agree that people are “too easily offended nowadays,” but I do agree that people have the right to say things that might offend. I think people have the right to be offended about whatever they want. But they do not have the right to impose their own beliefs on others. If you want to say something offensive that I don’t agree with, knock yourself out. But if you want to try prohibit me from saying something offensive to you, you can fuck right off.
It’s a fine line. Yes, you have the right to offend others, but not the right to control them.
I know, right? You never see anything like this in the mainstream any more:
The only funny thing I’ve ever seen performed at an awards show was done by will smith
Do you mean committing assault? Or not taking a joke?
Its battery, not assault sweaty.
He took a lame ass joke and made it funny, wdym?
I mean slapping a motherfucker for being ableist
Oh look, a bad take from a programming.dev poster
Kevin Hart aside (I’ll let others talk about what they like or dislike about him) -
I don’t know how anyone thinks that the hollywood “elite” are comedy friendly. I don’t know any celebrities right now that can take a joke about themselves. Either lighthearted or a good ribbing, I just see every one of them being upset and pouty. Sure they’ll laugh at others, but to each one of them they’re untouchable when it comes to jokes.
Personally I liked the humor, for me it humanizes them and it’s like “Okay let’s ground this thing in some reality before we make you feel like you’re the most important people on the planet”, but of course god forbid they remember they’re just like us.
they should get frankie boyle to do it, and he’d just slag them off for 30 minutes straight
Why? Since they are such a joke…
