We did it Lemmies!
In that list, only Lemmy has voting or comments in a tree, both key features that make reddit into reddit. If I was going to put together a list of reddit alternatives, those last 3 wouldn’t be on it.
Oh, except hacker news. But it’s just one topic, people can’t make their own communities/groups/subreddits another key reddit feature.
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Lemmy is great if you love Linux and Star Trek. If you’re really into cybersecurity and privacy Lemmy has it all.
As a not really techy person but one who has been cruising online for a long long time I feel Lemmy is a lot like old old Reddit. Reddit was full of techies when I joined. It grew over the years into a bigger thing but it started with a bunch of nerds talking about shit I didn’t understand.
Yes, I feel the same way. Reminds my of reddit circa '07 back when r/Conservative was an anti-Bush subreddit.
I’m into Linux, but also into Factorio and motorcycles.
Lemmy genuinely is a replacement for r/Linux because the activity here is just as high as there.
But there is very few content about Factorio and motorcycles here. They are communities, but they don’t really replace the reddit ones, especially r/factorio.
Edit: Almost forgot about incremental games. Basically no content exists on those here.
Hopefully they will one day!
i actually prefer to browse lemmy from a mastodon account but it probably isn’t for everyone: iget every comment on a subscribed community in reverse chronological order in one feed.
There are dozens of us, dozens!
Discord for large communities is dumb as shit. There’s literally too many people that real communication becomes impossible unless you move to DMs or an empty room.
Yeah, I hate discord for many reasons but the primary reason is that I just think it is a terrible place to have a conversation. All the channels I see are always dominated by really low quality effort interaction, interesting conversations just get drowned out and lost by someone sharing another meme or responding to someone else’s low effort meme.
As someone with pretty intense ADHD, Discord is just so fragmented with so many channels each with their own conversations all fracturing out in different directions with no capacity to keep a handle on it. I hate it.
Fuck Discord
or interesting convos have a mod chime in and ruin it
“hey guys can we move this conversation to x-chat”
Right and when you step back and think about it, why create a conversation system that demands so much admin for moderators? A reddit-like system obviously still desperately needs good human moderation but the moment to moment guidance of conversation focus doesn’t require a human mod to always interject to refocus things, just an engaged and genuine audience.
or or how about guilded? no? mabye revolt? no agian? element? wait what XMPP!!! are you sure that haS group chat? ok…
God I can’t stand servers that are Nazis for that. Guess what…natural conversation will change topics over time. I’m sorry I can’t keep up which of your 100 channels I need to jarringly break away from the convo and hop into whenever the topic even remotely, slightly drifts from what it started with. Discord channel Nazis don’t understand how human conversation works.
I love discord for small communities, not that I have that many I’m in though. But friend groups, and niche topics. Places where the chat generally is a single discussion or two at a single point in time. And the voice chat is superb. Just drop in and out is convenient.
But it sure as fuck doesn’t compete with what reddit and Lemmy is doing.
To be honest even for small communities I just find discord an extremely difficult format to follow., especially because search of previous conversations is an afterthought (???).
I think it is easy to miss how powerful the reddit type thread structure is among the noise of how toxic and shitty reddit itself can be. I love lemmy because I think the reddit type thread structure is in most ways a direct upgrade to message boards/forums. The problem with message boards was that as a thread gets longer the probability increases steadily to 100% that the thread will be utterly derailed by people arguing over the most trivial detail of the conversation. This seems like a weird thing to empathize, but consistently I would find a thread on a message board that felt like a goldmine of interesting information and ALWAYS I would find to my consternation that the last three pages to the thread were people arguing over some stupid fact one of the commenters used incorrectly early on in the thread to make some ancillary side point.
The Reddit structure smoothly siphons off these side conversations and allows the wisdom of the crowd to direct the focus of the conversation through upvotes and downvotes. Does the Reddit structure get petty, toxic and judgemental? Yes, but I think it still qualifies as a near direct improvement on messageboards if the objective of the messageboard is to be a curated source of expert/niche conversations. Lemmy is awesome, you can learn so much just from reading quality comments sections.
Definitely. The comment structure is what got me into reddit in the first place. I love that Lemmy uses it as well.
Yeah and it is easy to think of Lemmy as a shadow of Reddit because it is so much smaller, but even if for the foreseeable future that is highly unlikely to change, now is the first time the form of messageboard popularized by Reddit can finally grow and evolve beyond whatever limited vision the company that owns Reddit has and that is huge. We are in a new era of social media. Now anybody can experiment with tweaking the Reddit form by adding this, taking away that, changing how upvotes or downvotes work… who knows?
This is just the VERY beginning of exploring the space of social network structures like Reddit and it is going to be awesome. People don’t get excited for new social networks anymore (corporations have made them so repulsive and unhealthy) but this is a super exciting time of innovation and evolution in the different ways we bring humans together in conversations online.
so. much. this.
Discord is just an AOL chat room. Great for short-term conversations among 20 or fewer people. It’s not a good place to store your FAQ. It’s not a good place for large teams. It’s not a good place for anything searchable. It’s transactional. And I don’t know why people treat it otherwise.
I spend a lot of time in the r/furry discord server
It’s a wonderful place to just chat. Imo, discord is fine as a chatroom
yikes
What is yikes about hanging around with furries?
Furries are awesome people.
You know you’re in the strange corner of the internet when this isn’t getting disliked to hell lol
I mean, fuck all those other corners then
Fuck those corners while wearing a fur suit, you mean
Perhaps made even more so by having been highlighted by a username such as yours, /u/cum.
I gotta look into this Lemmy thing. Sounds right up my alley.
Nah, foget about Lemmy. The name isn’t edgy enough. Just think about Discord, Squabble, Insultr, TauntTornado, FuryFurnace or FistFight.
Who?
It’s similar to kbin
Lemmy, the singer of Motörhead that died 2015?
False, god can’t die
The bane of Lemmy searches, or the medal of “My query was not specific enough”.
No, Lemmy Koopa.
No wonder why I’m called “Resol van Lemmy” now.
How did Discord make the list but not Imgur? At least Imgur is somewhat like reddit.
Can someone please explain to me why discord is being used for everything? Isn’t it basically IRC?
Discord has a really low barrier to entry for conversation, it’s low friction. If someone playing a game gets a sorta funny screenshot they can share it in Discord and have a decent chance to get some responses or reactions.
But they won’t post it on Reddit or anything because there’s more friction there, it feels like more work to create a post and then you’re unlikely to get any responses anyways, and even if you get upvotes you can’t see who upvoted like if it’s someone you know, and there’s no easy emoji reactions. And users making comments to respond also feels higher friction than a message, people are just less likely to do it for whatever reason.
It just feels like small scale conversations are more likely to happen in Discord than anywhere else. If you have a small group of people then something like Reddit/Lemmy probably won’t be sustainable, it’ll never take off, but get them in Discord and you’re more likely to keep the group active.
I don’t have proof of why discord is getting shoved down our throats everywhere but I think it is probably in large part because there is a fuckton of investor money behind trying to make discord swallow up every online community it can and they have kept costs to customers/shitty behavior dialed back until they establish an unassailable dominance over the market. Everyone just thinks it is great and it doesn’t cost much money so what could possibly go wrong??
Its fancy IRC with voice channel support, etc
IRC is a completely open source protocol that anyone can develop clients and servers for, it’s been around for decades and has an army of dedicated fans and devs.
Discord is a program owned by a private company that everyone is using to chat while the company slowly implements pricing and walls their proverbial garden off.
It’s a great tool to set up with a small group of friends to stay in contact. It’s being pigeonholed for everything else
Ease of use.
With your one Discord account you join all the servers you care about and interact with online/IRL friends.
There are downsides that people at Lemmy will find dealbreaking and I absolutely agree with them, but the convenience of it being a chat, forum (almost), voice/video calling and gaming platform for free with (currently) no ads triumphs all of that for the majority of people, and that’s what makes it popular. It’s also cross-platform so no one’s left out.
Imgur was originally designed as an image server for Reddit. They actually share front pages (or used to, I haven’t been in a while)
I remember that post from MrGrimm. It went something like “there are no good image hosts for reddit, so I made one”.
When they added user accounts a few years later to spin it off into its own thing, I was among the first to create one. Managed to snag the username “anonymous” before anyone else could. Never actually used the account until last June, when all the 3rd party app drama started on reddit. Now I equally split my time between here and Imgur to replace reddit: I go to imgur for the memes, and Lemmy for the news. Don’t even miss reddit.
Wow! I have 60,424 glorious internet points on Imgur.
People will turn everything into a Discord server nowadays, no matter how bad of a match it is. I’ve even seen a Github project disabling their Issue tracker in favor of Discord, which is completely insane to me.
I think repos that do that just don’t know how to link discord to GitHub. They want the notifications/engagement but can’t get the two to talk.
Either that or they just don’t want people to report issues on a public board.
Either way, I feel like it’s bad all around.
I had been on reddit since 2008, I was looking for an alternative to the message boards I belonged to after the popularity of Facebook killed them off. I really enjoyed it, not the same level of community that you find in a message board but still good for conversation.
Then trump happened and it turned to shit. It’s so fucking toxic and I ended up getting banned for defending myself. Apparently fascism is good and standing up for yourself goes against community standards.
I’m a disabled 49 year old just looking for conversation. Facebook is also a toxic wasteland now. To say I miss myspace is an understatement but there’s hardly anyone there anymore.
I’m happy whenever I find a place that’s put the social back into social media because antisocial media is just trash.
Key strengths of Lemmy
- Federation
- Tankies
- Star Trek memes
- Star Trek memes community civil war
Tankies?
Lemmy has a large World of Tanks game community
Don’t ask. 🤦
Computer, can you expand on the last point please
A prominent /c/Risa shitposter accused the mods of transphobia, loudly quit Risa and started their own meme community (and later deleted the comments after any evidence of transphobia failed to materialize).
Around the same time, a Risa mod removed some particularly low-effort posts despite Risa having “no rules”, which upset some users and so they fled to the other guys’ meme community.
Now there are two Star Trek themed meme communities.
A prominent /c/Risa shitposter
This isn’t reddit, you can name names.
Stamets. He actually banned me from the new place after posting a dumb meme he just didn’t like (said I was “ban evading”). Did not know about him crying transphobia but it doesn’t surprise me, the person has a serious temper issue.
EDIT I forgot he also retroactively removed two AI shitposts posts I made after writing a rule about it (yet didnt remove his own)
Thought so. I have had my own run in with him.
In light of the current drama, could you maybe elaborate on your run in, and repeat what the deleted reply by stamets was?
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THE prominent shitposter
???
Are you worried about being banned if you name him?
just blocked the only risa mod there is
I read this in Majel Barret’s voice and you can’t take that away from me
Wait the trekies are fighting? i’ll light a candle
Risa had some mod issues, Tenforward was created. The people who actually post have basically all moved to Tenforward, it’s not really a war.
Why are tankies a key strength? Or do you mean purely for entertainment value?
Tankies are a strength?
if it’s not to make fun of tankied you are required to get blocked
- Linux tech support
Fuck Reddit, but shouldn’t be so excited for external validation. We’re doing a good thing building this community, we know that without them signing off.
I don’t understand this sentiment. We know that, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get excited over it.
Good publicity means more traffic, which means more people for community, which means more content, which means the network is more entertaining as a whole (hopefully)
Squabblr seems like a nest of 13 year-olds trolling each other for fake internet points. Pass.
Oh boy you should see all the drama on r/RedditAlternatives when this shit blew up
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Isn’t mastadon closer to a twitter replacement than a reddit replacement?
