“I’m just ashamed that this bill even came into fruition,” a Lexington council member said.

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      121 year ago

      They can’t very well claim we can’t. Maybe we can do combo Soup Kitchens/Gun giveaways.

  • @[email protected]
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    After reading the article, it’s 100% about creating a slavery pool. Murdering hobos is just icing on the cake.

  • @[email protected]
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    Contribute to capitalism OR DIE!

    And I thought the link about the pastor getting in shit for offering shelter from the cold was peak fuckin murica.

    But hey, finally, the honest truth! Never thought we’d see the day. Hateful shit system, making us into shit people. Guess what dickheads, there are better ways to live. literally all of them. it’s over for you anyway, AI is here and it’s too late to make a stand now.

  • @[email protected]
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    I was homeless just North of their border so the police here in Ohio set me up with a fake felony to keep me in jail. A dude stopped his truck in front of me while I was Doordashing, cornered me into a fist fight, and then told the police I hit him with my car. The people in the car behind me also backed him up. It never happened, so why was it so simple for me to be locked in jail indefinitely with my and lawyer telling me COVID suspended the fair and speedy trial? I cannot handle being in a noisy environment and have avoidant personality disorder, so I eventually caved to the plea deal. Now here I am nearly 2 years out with an ok job and my own place but I need to come up with $1100 before the end of the month for my fines or go back to court.

    I’m convinced they’re just trying to create a slave class. If you are an easy target, they’ll take you and mark your record so you have to be cheap labor for three upper class.

      • @[email protected]
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        I gotta say it.

        Ok Boomer.

        Society has failed everyone. It’s just that most people don’t see it.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m sorry but yeah your situation sucks if it’s true, but I don’t know really what you expect the court to do if there are multiple witnesses saying this happened.

          • @[email protected]
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            Prove it. Can’t prove what didn’t happen? Apparently we now gotta indefinitely jail someone until they give up. /s

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              I’m not saying indefinitely jail them, but that’s a serious accusation, and if there are witnesses then I can see why a jury would be convinced. Of course it’s ridiculous you didn’t get a speedy trial, but I think it’s pretty fair to jail someone over that accusation.

              • @[email protected]
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                A jury wasn’t convinced. They wouldn’t let me have a jury. They wouldn’t let me in the court room until I agreed to their bullshit.

    • @[email protected]
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      121 year ago

      How it is people could possibly believe in the legitimacy of legal systems knowing how they only make it easier for evil people to victimize others instead of protecting them is beyond me.

      I am so sorry for what you went through.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s easy. Nobody gets to see what actually happened. They see what Fox news tells them and nothing of what goes on in the Hamilton county jail. More than likely nobody is even interested. They either have their own problems or are comfortable enough im their life to think I deserved what I got. There’s even people who are such rent seekers that they think I deserved it simply by virtue of not paying to live in a house.

        Nobody is gonna help me except my roommate.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 year ago

          I admit there probably isn’t much anyone here can do either, but you have my sympathy, friend, and my understanding. Please, keep your head up. We are in tyranny right now, but we have to believe that the world will turn and things will get better. We have to believe, because that belief is the only thing that will keep us going so we can see that better world.

          We believe you and support you.

          • @[email protected]
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            Well that’s some circular logic. I’ve got decent living prospects just around the corner, but it’s been just around the corner for literally my whole life. If I find another corner around this one, I’m done. The carrot is in kahoots with the stick.

            ‘Support’ bears weight. Hopes and prayers aren’t gonna do it. My roommate letting me not pay rent this month and then also lending me money that I can pay back before rent is due on the 5th is support.

            All I want from here is for you all to recognize that police are a gang and the word of the law doesn’t matter. Spending time and energy fretting over which puppet is president doesn’t help anyone.

            • @[email protected]
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              41 year ago

              I believe you and you are definitely in good company. I am sorry we can’t do anything practical to help you. Please let the fact that we believe you be a comfort. Comfort is so rare in this world.

              • @[email protected]
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                Comfort comes in the form of an electric blanket.

                Peace though? I’m never not going to be afraid the police will do worse to me. They didn’t need any justification from me and there’s nothing I could have physically done to stop them short of dying in a gunfight.

    • @[email protected]
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      Blocked. You should think about the experience and perspective of the other before opening your fucking mouth.

      • @[email protected]M
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        I removed their comment for rule 1 violation, but they aren’t wrong. I used to be homeless (we prefer the term “travelers”). We called ourselves homeless when not using the term traveler, and weren’t fond of the term “unhomed”.

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            When - 3 times through my adulthood, and most of my childhood prior to foster care

            Where - Missouri, Arkansas, New Mexico, and Arizona

  • @[email protected]
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    261 year ago

    “How do we solve the housing crises?” Kentucky: “Thats easy! Just aim for the center of mass”

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    The GOP is desperately trying to make everything outside of being a wealthy white male conservative illegal.

  • @[email protected]
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    I think the headline writers need some lessons in political antagonism. This should be “New GOP bill legalizes murder of vulnerable people such as disabled American veterans.” “Pro-military” party? Patriotic party? Thank you for your service, lol. We’re really pro-imperialism. Now that we have destroyed you, we just want you to go away.

  • Rob
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    The bill also gives people the ability to justify use of “defensive force” upon an unhoused person in instances of criminal trespass, including “unlawful camping” on the owner’s property. This would allow property owners to use deadly force against unhoused people on their property without facing criminal consequences.

    I hope this bill has some “defensive force” applied to it before it becomes a law.

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      I hope the people who vote for this end up homeless, so they can experience “defensive force” personally.

      • @[email protected]
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        Imagine if this passed.

        If you kick your SO out of your house, and they agree to leave, they’re now instantly unhoused, right? And your honor, they brought all their stuff and were sleeping on my property.

        Could landlords come in, swat style, and execute you the moment eviction procedures go through?

        If someone is not inside a house, are they not unhoused? If their house burned down 5 minutes ago they certainly no longer have a house. If anyone is not in sight of their house, they could plausibly be unhoused, whether they know it or not. Besides, there’s no way for you to know their housing status. So all campers on your property sound like fair game.

        What constitutes camping? Being inside a tent? Sleeping? Bringing stuff onto the property? If a company sets up a party tent at the wrong address, could you mow them down?

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          They did define it in the law.

          But I don’t expect anyone who’d shoot a person for being homeless to read it.

          • @[email protected]
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            That reminds me of when I was a kid, and asked if I could see the book where they have all the laws. My parents were confused and looked at me like I was crazy

            I still think it’s absolutely insane that they can take away your freedom or your life for breaking rules that we learn through gossip

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    too bad everything is left up to individual countries mean states to decide laws

    maybe strong federal laws and making states comply to it and not allow fifty united states to individually decide on every issue would keep this from happening

    • Deceptichum
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      So if Trump wins you’d want him to be able to enforce his will on the states?

      Empowering people at the local level would do more to help than a top down approach.

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    Why did this distinction was made in the first place? Do cops in Kentucky have a habit of gunning down homeless people?

    • @[email protected]
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      No, it’s so ordinary people like you and me can do it. Guess they were jealous the police were having all the fun.

    • @[email protected]
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      Cops have always had a habit of killing the homeless. Also they have a habit of killing the homed. Thanks to qualified immunity in the USA, a cop just has to feel threatened, not actually be threatened, to justify the use of deadly force.

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        The worst part is that in the rare cases that the cops might possibly be held accountable beyond qualified immunity, juries also like to give them a pass because they l can relate more to a sad cop’s excuse of being afraid more than some corpse that can’t speak for themselves.

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          And in the very rare case it looks like the police officers will actually face accountability, SCOTUS is there to say it can’t pass Qualified Immunity because the police officers laughed while they did it instead of chuckled.