Tech forums in any sense.
If you’re tired of seeing the same questions, why are you here? You can just ignore them. But treating a newbie like an idiot for not knowing better just discourages people from getting into your thing and keeps you from meeting cool new people.
ESPECIALLY because a lot of these questions come from kids that literally haven’t had the chance to learn better yet. Just kindly point them where they need to go. It takes just as much time as telling them off.
I realised, that sometimes it is more like a different experience level. And some people forget it could be possible the asking person is an absolute newbie.
And most people in forums are there because they want to help, but they want to help on this one asked case and won’t teach the whole Linux universe, most people need years of experience for.
The good thing is, we can use AI for this nowadays, it won’t go mad if you are missing an elemental “you really should know, how this works” kind of error.
Yeah people need to find the startingpoint often.
But it is annoying if people ask stuff that is like a single web search, or throw out nonsensical myths that make no sense.
Especially on the GrapheneOS discuss really technical people like always help them, and I think this has to be very tiring
Yeah, I stopped asking questions about any problems years ago because of the cli bros and god forbid you tried to help and didn’t offer an “crowd approved” answer. It just wasn’t worth the effort. I just switched to searching for an answer on my own. It makes me pretty bad at solving problems sometimes/often times when I do have an issue, but I still manage to muddle through well enough for my own personal amusement.
Thankfully, unless you choose to walk a path of sackcloth and ashes, these days distros are pretty fool proof and don’t need much cli effort anymore. And the older I get, the less I want to bother with anything exotic with any distro I want to use. I just want something that works.
What do you want help with?
The only issue that has cropped up on my current release LM Cinnamon install, is I have added 2 extra storage devices added to a cheapie AWOW micro box. They are both easily recognized, (formatted Ext4), and are available through the file manager for use. One is an 250gb internal drive and the other is a MicroSD is a 128gb card in an external slot. And both show as extra storage and neither are available as bootable disks - only the usb ports allow that.
What I have found is, on boot the main drive shows up on the desktop and the smaller microSD card automagically also shows up and is available for use from there. But the 250gb added internal drive has never shown up on the desktop on boot until I open the file manager and click on it. When I do that, it appears on the desktop but locks out the microSD card shortcut/icon on my desktop, (still accessible through the file manager).
I’m not sure if this is an issue with LM or just how this Cheap, Cheerful, Chinese micro box has it’s firmware set up. I lean towards the firmware in the box myself, if so it probably isn’t fixable then. And honestly, this isn’t really a showstopper problem and more of a quality of life issue that isn’t all that difficult to work around - just use the file manage and it isn’t a problem. But it would awesome if all three desktop shortcuts played nice together.
Check your /etc/fstab if the disk is permanently mounted, it is likely not. As it can be mounted this doesnt sound like a firmware issue.
And yeah the disappearing thing is a Linux Mint issue and in general desktop icons and links are very Desktop-specific, as they replicate Windows behavior a lot.
I trolled myself by “learning” that I could delete all files in a directory, including hidden files, with
rm -rf ./*. The mistake being that I (more than once…) accidentally put a space between the.and/.I forced myself to use trash (from trash-cli) when I lost my first server install from this.
Nowadays, I’ve removed the alias from rm that asked me to use trash, and am still using trash if there’s a chance I might want to keep something.
I just alias rm to trash and if I really want to remove something I just escape the alias:
\rmCould do that, but they have different flu args.i respect the power of rm now.
And that’s why every rm command should start life as an ls command and then change the command and options while not touching the target directory. Takes a little longer, but saves so much hassle when you do fuck up.
This is the best advice in the whole thread.
Check what you’re doing before you do it.
Rm was updated to actually log a warning in the
-rf /cases, so that’s less likely to happen anymore. Still not a bad habit to use ls though/* still works I think
not if you use
/*. gp was totally screwed with their typo.
Yeah this is the is the biggest reason I dislike Linux forums in a broad sense. Snobby elitist pricks.
Don’t even get me started on arch Linux forums… my favorite is when someone says is something like “this is super fucking simple you just follow this guide: [insert wiki link that is basically a scientific dissertation on the history of arch]
Interestingly enough the Arch Linux subreddit is or was way more tame in comparison to its forum
at least I always quoted the relevant paragraph in the wiki alongside a link since I believe it did a better job at explaining it than I could
and if it wasn’t in the wiki I added it into it beforehandI have had a mostly positive experience with the Arch Linux forums, though admittedly, I have never asked anything myself over there. I just turn out to find useful answers to rare problems that are hard to find in other platforms.
Maybe the real problem is the difference in expectations.If you truly understand a subject you like helping newbs, not insulting them. It is people who know just enough to sound like they do but are desperate to look like experts who are the biggest pricks.
I also feel like a lot of those people are there just to be pricks. I don’t think they really know much at all so their input was unwarranted in the first place.
The arch wiki is a very good resource and I use it for all Linux distros. But like most repositories of its kind, it gives you the how and not the why.
That’s what most people want from another person, they ask “how” but I think they mean “why”.
It’s the same on Lemmy. Linux people live in a fantasy world…it’s like ya I’ve done some things on Linux but is it the best OS for most people? Nah. Not even close.
I think the most annoying people in Forums:
“Well I use Debian, and I use only native packages! I update manually because I need to resolve those dependency problems! Go to hell with your Flatpaks and telemitry, I want freedom! Also I will never use Wayland because Mate doesn’t support it”
People thinking they can give advice, while they are clearly using outdated software, not scaleable maintenance effords, etc.
I had this in the KDE forum. Literally 2 dudes telling me no system could auto update, while my system does, today.
people hating on flatpak is a clear indicator of people who don’t prioritize an easily useful system.
The contrast is very strong with the Arch Wiki, which does a genuinely good job - for a set of short articles - at explaining how that whole machinery works. Yet, if you don’t understand something from there - good luck finding a person to explain what to do.
I wish I could help people like this but I get really frustrated when they don’t understand something I say for the first time, or are generally bad with tech, and I don’t know how to get over it
There is certainly a lack of perspective and empathy between those who spend their time concentrated on computer maintenance and those others who must perform other important tasks in their lives.
I just got a new laptop, I want to change it to Linux, it is going to be a really fun experience
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spyware like Red Star OS lol
Interestingly there’s tools to remove the spyware. https://github.com/takeshixx/redstar-tools/. Probably still not safe to expose to the internet or run outside a VM though.
Yes, that is my main goal, I am still waiting for a couple of parts to start that. I am going to try a dual boot for things from my job.
the people who troll or make fun of linux beginners are the same people who wonder every year why desktop linux isn’t more mainstream
And 80% of these are on Lemmy, I mean put up a question or comment that how Linux is not helpful is simple tasks such as giving permissions to program without using command prompt , will get you downvotes/ you are idiot comments heavily.
never had anything quite as bad, there are a lot of people commenting “JuSt SwiTcH tO LiNuX” and never answer when you explain how you’ve tried to switch but sim racing, CAD and many other things are way too complicated to get running reliably.
Yeah it’s pretty bad
command -v lolis returning an error on my system???This moment when another meme stolen from Deltachat completely explodes
Either that or you insult them for not knowing the answer already, tell them to google it (then why does this forum exist?) or get mad because they did know that their question had already been answered in a forum post in 2019.
Jokes on you I trolled myself by being stupid and not asking for help when installing on the crap old pc I have and fucked myself over by bricking it
Yeah you cant really brick a PC with software. You can lose whatever data ison the hard drive. but even that is likely recoverable
Well it still works, it’s just that it’s “locked” to Linux, no matter what I change in the bios it refuses to boot anything else, live USBs, my old windows drive (since I installed it separately), nothing, only just that install of xubuntu, nothing else
I learnt this when trying to distro hop, that was like a few days after I installed, that was like in September of last year, I haven’t fixed (or bothered with) it since
Probably because linux hijacked the windows bootloader and overwrote it. if you remove all partitions from the drive with gparted or similar and fresh install, it will work. The windows data may also still be recoverable, depending on your situation, but doesnt sound like it’s important anyway. If you wanna be safe when experimenting with linux, use a seperate drive for it and disconnect all other hard drives until you know what you’re doing.
No the weird thing is that I had only one sata cable for my hard drive, so I just plugged in a new replacement drive and installed it, only when the live USBs didn’t work I tried plugging in the windows drive
To clarify, if u decide to try again, make sure your bootloader is installed to the same drive as your OS and avoid using the same drive for two operating systems. And of course, make sure bios boota from the right device/efi mode.
Well there was only one physical drive to install on do it had to install to it’s drive, so idk what’s going on, and it wouldn’t explain me not being able to boot live USBs either
I did had to turn on uefi to install, so idk if that had to do something with it, can’t recall if I tried turning it off yet
Have you tried just popping the drive with Linux installed out? If you boot to a boot menu and select another boot device is it just like… “fuck you, no, we use Linux now”
Yup, tried just loading the windows drive inside and setting it in priority in bios (just in case), in the top left corner it just showed something along the lines of “Ubuntu - success” (don’t remember now since it was so long ago)
Whacky
I did somehow manage to ruin an SSD when trying to set up dual booting. I couldn’t actually read the data off of it after whatever nonsense I did. After reformatting it a few times to no avail, I gave up on it.
I probably should have tried reinstallling the firmware on the SSD, but I had it at that point. Even so, the PC still worked. After convincing the computer to boot off of the original drive, I had no issues.
Short of a hardware fault, you cannot destroy an SSD no matter what you throw at it. Try resetting the partition table using gparted and you can use it for whatever again. The windows partition manager tends to not be reliable when dealing with removing wonky linux partitions.
Really you actually bricked it? Have you tried a live system from a bootable USB and format the drive or something?
The thing is it works, just that other bootable drives don’t work, only this Linux drive, no live USBs not my old windows drive, nothing else works no matter what I Change in the bios
That sucks. If you remove the drive with
windowslinux I wonder if you could boot from a USB. Would be worth a tryYeah but I would need another drive to now install another os on, but yeah it might be worth giving a try
True, but that drive is booting right? It’s just no other drive will boot? I figured you could check if there’s an issue with the USB port. If it boots then it could be that drive is causing the issue, although that would be strange. You could get an adapter and reformat the drive that way and see if that fixes the issue.
Yeah I need to get a new drive to test as I said, as for the usb ports I tried all of them on my pc, none worked, about reformatting idk if you mean Linux or windows but I have some important stuff there (the reason I installed on a new drive without having another sata cable) so it’s not the preferred option for me
Ok now type “touch /this”
And then hum the famous M C Hammer song.
Lmao fork bomb
