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ever wonder why AI is so “good”? please identify all images which are ____. the captcha system may not know what the image is, but after thousands of responses, it has a pretty good idea of where it is, and what it is (since most users will answer correctly to prove they are human).
Website any% speedrun (no glitch)
Internet in 2024 (for me):
- Service unavailable in your country (VPN)
- Confirm you’re a human (VPN)
- Blank page (noscript)
- Obscure error (fingerprint / cookie blocking)
- Page not found (https required)
The percentage of websites that “just work” with privacy measures in place is depressingly small.
you have to put in extra work just to make your website not work with privacy measures. like you have to put in the work to use some bloated javascript framework that doesn’t work with noscript instead of just sticking with plain html and css, which would work. on top of that, i’ve encountered way too many big websites that don’t even have a noscript tag so all you see is a ghost layout or a blank page.
That’s something I would disagree with though. “Sticking with plain HTML and CSS” is way more work, and often has significantly less functionality, than building a website with a framework.
you can build it with a framework, but maybe build it on the server side instead. I’ve seen many nice sites that hardly use any javascript and instead of a bunch of api calls, the server just returns new html to render.
I don’t mind frameworks, but some features that seem super useful to devs, like google analytics, and various diagnostic/logging tools, social media integrations, I would prefer to “opt in” when I decide they are necessary.
honest question, what is the point of having noscript on at all times?
Tldr: I prefer to opt-in.
Technically it’s uBO, but I use the extreme setting that blocks all scripts by default. Truthfully I wasn’t aware just how many scripts get loaded especially on ecommerce and social media sites, there are too many heavy frameworks being used. Much of it is unnecessary bloat, slowing down my browser, and no small amount of it is devoted to tracking and data collection.
In general, I find less than half of loaded scripts are required to make a page functional. It’s a process requiring trial-and-error, but I have a good set of base rules in place for trusted sites and scripts.
For me, it’s about not giving websites free reign over my browser and by extension my computer and personal data, but having some measure of control over them.
And occasionally there are suspicious sites where I truly don’t want any scripts to run. I don’t even have to worry about them.
Not the person you’re asking and I’m running uMatrix instead of noscript to block scripts. But I do it to get more granular control over what my browser loads and runs. Why run scripts if a website works perfectly fine without them? These days I ain’t trusting shit out there on the web.
Are there even some left? Good old text+image-websites with pure information. Ahh the good old times.
But why #5? What do have against https?
I require https, but not every website is secure, and sometimes the certificate has a problem or is expired.
How is this a shitpost? It’s just true.
To be fair I havent gotten one of those types of captchas in a while. And now there’s typically a reject all non essential cookies button somewhere.
Edit: I will clarify. It’s not that I don’t get captchas, it’s that I don’t get the “which picture in the grid contains…” captchas. I keep getting some stupid puzzle piece captcha. Idk.
You will often get these captchas if you use a popular VPN.
I don’t with proton vpn plus at the moment tho I have ublock origgin blocking third party dcripts and noscript blocking most scripts all tpgether on my pc soo half the website that migh show them probably don’t even work
Same (proton and ublocker), but I have also found that some web pages cares what browser you use if you are on proton. If I use chrome then they may just do the verification when you wait 3 seconds but with Firefox and proton (not without proton) do I get a lot of captcha sometimes even after each other just to make triple sure I am not a bot… or even get blocked entirely…
I keep getting some stupid drag this puzzle piece, in a straight line, into place. I’ve gotten 1 grid like that and a word captcha in the past 6 months.
It’s VPN’s that’ll trigger the captchas. I never get them unless I forget to turn my VPN off after “hanging out with my peers”, and then a BUNCH of sites will captcha me
The thing your missing is, when you click only allow non essential, that means it’s still 700 companies tracking you because of the great term “legitimate interest”. That’s the one you need to deactivate and this usually one by one as shown in this post.
So yeah, you’re essentially allowing all the stuff the way you’re doing it
Well its allow only essential / reject all non essential cookies.
Idk I used to have to go through one by one and do this. Now there’s typically somewhere around 4 subcategories. Essential / strictly necessary cookies say always active and there’s nothing you can do to change anything in that category and everything else has been lumped into other categories you can reject by hand or hit the reject button. all those companies fall under marketing. I guess maybe if I turn off the marketing / targeting category, there’s some within that don’t turn off, but much of the time they don’t even give me the option to check who’s participating.
Maybe I have trained myself not to go to those places. If I have, it wasn’t on purpose. Occasionally, i get interested in a subject and randomly search, but i dont do most social media so idk. Maybe I don’t even realize hit the back button anymore when i see it menus that make me do this. To me this post seems like something that I would encounter maybe a year ago , if not more. Not something I see on the regular now. (Edit: suppose since about a year or two after the EU passed their laws)
Might be because you trained yourself to avoid those sites that need them. I stopped using some SaaS because logging in was just too hard.
The cookies being pre selected is illegal in the EU. Although I’ve seen sites that don’t care and still enable them by default
Here in Spain they started making the option to either subscribe… Or accept the ads/tracking…
Italy too.
Same in germany. That makes the whole thing even more useless, as everyone just is a subscription-based shit now…
Yeah I see it seems it applies other places.
I would be ok with it honestly if they like allowed to select sites but they did this “content pass”, https://www.contentpass.net/en , which englobe a lot of sites and lot of them I don’t want them to see a single penny from me because they are shit. If they fix that and I can pick and change it along the way am all in on it.
Just use reader mode, it bypasses all that shit.
Oh I am sure there are ways to bypass it. Just saying what they do.
Same with a lot of news outlets in Germany. Although it’s not that difficult for me to use only sites that allow disallowing every cookie or just bypass the cookie popup
The ones I’ve seen disable the ‘consent’ bits by default, but then there’s ‘vendor preferences’ where ‘legitimate interest’ is automatically ON in 58 places (I’m not exaggerating; I have counted it) and you have to manually off all of them.
When you click the question mark at ‘legitimate interest’, all it says is some vendors are not asking for your consent to use your data but collect it based on their legitimate interest.
It’s infinitely vague and it has the vibe of ‘I’m not going to ask for it, I will just take it and I will use it for whatever I want anyway’.
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Using a pihole. Is there any way to circumvent the “Ad blocker detected” Prompt that denies access to view site?
Just use ublock origin.
If you use only a pihole there should not popup any adblocker detected messages since you don’t use one.
Edit: ok it seems certain websites do check if their ads get actually loaded. I recommend not using those sites or use ublock origin to block the anti adblock popup. And as far I can tell this is illegal in the EU. So I don’t encounter this issues.
This is the right answer. Most webpage servers, if they’re set up to detect adblock, only detect at the client level on the browser. They don’t check to see if their traffic is being routed through a pihole.
This is incorrect. Traffic is not ‘routed through a pihole’, it is a DNS resolver which returns a localhost address for blacklisted domains. Basically it causes your browser to try to load blacklisted content from a webserver running on your local PC, which (for the average user) doesn’t exist and so it gives up loading instead.
More and more websites do detect this and it can be as simple as checking for the presence of a variable that should be set if some piece of JavaScript from an external domain was loaded. In such a case it wouldn’t matter if you refused the tracking code due to PiHole or an adblocker extension. Actually the adblocker would even have an advantage here, as it would be capable of manipulating any client-side scripts that trigger these warnings, whereas Pihole has no interaction with your browser at all.
Can confirm that with pihole you still get these. I browse with vanilla chrome on my phone at home and use a pihole, and I get these messages.
They most certainly do unfortunately, I speak from experience. Haven’t delved into the specifics, but I suspect some websites check if a piece of JavaScript or other resource was loaded, if not a ‘you are using an adblocker’ message is shown. It is annoying, but as I can live without these websites they go onto my personal blacklist and I move on with my life. They need us harder than we do them.
I usually connect to VPN in the browser. Firefox has some extensions (including ProtonVPN), Opera has something built-in (but it’s ultra slow in free tier).
At least we have 1000/1000 fiber connections
*cries in 25/1.5mb dsl
There is no such thing as an unintrusive advertisement.
In the long ago if a site needed advertising it was a small banner at the top of the page, and often hosted by the site itself with gasp an actual relationship with the advertisers or sponsors.
I’d be happy with a static image, hosted by the website which when clicked takes you to the advertiser’s website
http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
(recommend not actually clicking any links)
I didn’t mind the static ones (within reason), websites need to pay their rent. And not everything can sell something.
But even those have tracking and gross injection code now.
Even emails have tracking pixels at this point. Like, I route all of my email through a client that blocks all outside media without asking lol
There are some sites so extremely annoying that I just get a mirror from archive.org or archive.is. I’m doing this with some news sites that will only allow me to browse them if I accept their cookies.
Recently I started to use reader mode a lot, it tends to work in many cases for this purpose.
Stop giving me ptsd
I just hate the ones that block you for using Linux. User agent spoofers work but they’ll figure out how to block those too someday.
How do I make Lemmy not show me animated thumbnails?
I don’t need my home page to be a GeoCities-esque pile of flashing puke.
Yeah probably not great for photosensitive viewers
For ads problem ublock origins / Adguard / Blokada / PiHole does job done especially if you add HAGEZI Ultimate filters on it if you want clean webpage
For captcha problem i think theres script that can you inject to bypass it (i forgot the name of that script)Most of all, I was sick of the captcha from cloudflare.
On some sites, there was endless checking and it was impossible to view the content of the site.I had to disable user agents or else I could simply not look at any website “protected” by cloudflare
Yeah, too many sites I’ve done 3+ captchas and still won’t let me in, and not even the ones where 1 cell has either a shadow or a sliver of a bike tire. And reports that bots are now better at passing these than people. I won’t use a site with a pick-the-squares captcha anymore.
Click a slider is the most I’ll do. If anyone needs me I’ll be over here hanging out with the bots that are too shitty to pass a captcha.
They think u a bot
I know the hate for it abounds, but this is why I’ll often just try to look stuff up in a chat box with an AI, browsing has become exhausting.
Honestly what AI outputs is what I think a majority of the people want anyways. They want an answer to something in most cases.
I do the same damn thing. When I want information distilled to me in a manner which is quick and easy to process, I use something like an LLM to reduce the complexity down.
I also use https://www.summarize.tech/ a LOT for YouTube videos to get to the part that matters, or just simply make it text-searchable.
what AI outputs is what I think a majority of the people want anyways. They want an answer to something in most cases.
When I ask a question I want a correct answer, not one that is merely statistically likely. Using an AI and not fact checking it means you will never know if the answer given to your question is true. The AI tells you what it thinks you want to hear, not what it knows is true, because it doesn’t know anything, it’s a pattern matcher.
Right. Lots of other use cases though.
Great translations!
Well, when other people ask a question, they get a page of jumbled answers, and I think we’ve proven that Karen cannot be expected to “do her own research”. AI will give a more correct answer 99/100 times.
I’d love to know what questions you’ve asked an LLM and gotten wrong answers from – with the exceptions of math and continuity questions, which we already understand LLMs have trouble with.
Not who you were speaking to, but there’s at least one infamous example about a mycology book on amazon that was presumably copy pasted from LLM output. It is the same issue my professors had with people who copy-pasted from wikipedia. It is mostly right, but there is no real reason to believe it unless you can check the answer, and many people don’t understand that.
https://decrypt.co/154187/ai-generated-books-on-amazon-could-give-deadly-advice
Thank fucking God. I hate YouTube tutorials
But it’s like asking your very smart child to find the information for you.
The child is still learning so it only takes information that it was exposed to and has access to and it never questions or critically analyses the data.
So all the information, disinformation, misinformation and non information that the childlike AI collects is fed back to you as a giant word salad and presented as actual information without any critical thought.
What if I ask my averagely smart child to ask an AI for me because my idiot luddite brain can’t be arsed to do it myself? I just hope all the different sorts of stupid cancel each other out.
