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I swear, if those lizard lovers get their state destroyed and leave Georgia more vulnerable I’m gonna be pissed.
Are we all gonna die soon? Serious question
People are already dying to the effects. We know climate change can cause more and higher intensity hurricanes, more droughts, fires, famines, wilder weather swings, floods, and wars and refugee crises, etc. We know these things are increasing and we know people are already dying to them now.
So while you can’t pin any individual disaster to climate change, we already know it’s causing deaths.
As for if we’re all going to die? Probably not all of us, so if you’re lucky and don’t mind you or your kids living in a Mad Max world, you can relax a little.
Mass famines and heat that kills without AC coming summer of 2024 or 2025. Won’t kill the global north too much yet, but it will be one of the biggest deadly events in history for the rest of the world.
Military journalist Gwyn Dyer reported on this almost 2 decades ago.
The global militaries have been planning for this for years. You see those ships with refugees from northern Africa? That volume is going to ramp up plus Mediterranean countries are going to exodus north to the Nordic states and immigration is going to lock the fuck down. People are going to die by the millions. Maybe not in 2 years but this is our future.
On the plus side, and I am fucking saying this sarcastically, at least it’s the “right people” dying which is to say those not white and those not rich.
I mean it benefits your guys in the short term so yeah
We? No. We’ll just be uncomfortable. Our kids? They’re going to slowly cook to death as they’re running out of food/water/oxygen. Or, y’know, get blown up in one of the wars fighting over scraps of food/water/oxygen.
But look on the bright side: we’re on track to beat last fiscal year’s profit margin! If we do that, we’ll get a free company branded pencil and one ticket to use some leave-without-pay at you manager’s discretion – and the regional manager gets another vacation home!!
The economy, fools!
We will not just be uncomofrtable. There is going to be much more people dying to disasters than before and we are going to witness terrible wars in the next two decades
Spoilers: Third world war will start at October, to go through clueless and senseless deaths all around the world, for uhhhhhh…6 years’ish.
Then (not really sure beyond that tbh) we will have a worldwide apparition of Our Lady of Garanbandal… something something “folks will die of shame by witnessing their sins being committed”, etcetc. The antichrist will come, christians will be hunted like animals.
Demons will manifestate, wander around. Everyone will accept em as saviors, praise em, etc. Lucifer will claim victory, etc.
Then, 2nd cometh of Christ, etc, judge everyone, etc. Hell will close, etcetc. New Jerusalem, etc.
So um… yeah. 10 years at best, 20 years at worst.
The flying spaghetti monster beckons: we shall all return to the sauce! Some time after dinner, most likely.
R’amen.
No. We have a long ways away before the human population will be wiped out due to climate change. Most likely around 100 or so years. The issue is what happens before then. Increasing temperatures will mean less water for crops creating food crisis. It will mean rising water level which means people living in low coastal cities will have to move. There is going to be mass migration which people do not like (Conservative fearmongering and look at how the homeless are treated). The food shortages and migration will cause unprecedented poverty. Poverty is correlated to crime so there is going to be an uptick of it. If we don’t cut our carbon emission by 2030, we are going to see water wars and food wars by 2050.
What do these food and water wars mean? It can mean a lot. The rich will most likely be fine and continue with their yachts and private jets which are the biggest contributors carbon emissions. There will be more and more wars breaking out and even 1st world countries will be affected. This can lead to use of nuclear weapons which will continue to cut the human population and make things less inhabitable. Over time the human population will be cut and climate change acceleration will most likely slow down but not fully stop. There’s also a feedback loop to the planet heating up. As polar ice caps melt and the planet heats up, it may naturally continue on its own until it equalizes. It can go up to like 10 degrees which, well, I hope i am not on the planet at that time.
Not everything is hopeless. We have a lot of bright scientists and we are in an era of unprecedented wealth. I do believe when it comes down to it, the world will unite and we will be able to mitigate enough of it and create solutions. Mass solar panels is a good one. Building nuclear reactors for the future use is another. Some solutions have been suggested like turning the sky white and other stuff. Public transit is another thing picking up and will greatly reduce carbon emissions. Just remember, a majority of the pollution comes from the use of private jets, yachts, and cruise ships. People will get hungry. There is one group of people who are at fault and I think the French found the solution to it.
We have a long ways away before the human population will be wiped out due to climate change. Most likely around 100 or so years.
You realize that would be the grandchildren of people alive today, right? That’s VERY soon lol…
No. We have a long ways away before the human population will be wiped out due to climate change…Not everything is hopeless. We have a lot of bright scientists…
I said something similar in a thread yesterday and got savagely shat on by everyone. The thread was about people literally not having children because they’re worried about climate change. I said have kids if you want, don’t if you don’t, but it’s insane to make such a major life decision based on some nebulous calamity that may or may not happen in your lifetime, or at all. I’m extremely concerned about climate change but goddamn some people are nuts.
I think they are correct. We are living in a time with the greatest wealth gap. As climate change continues we are going to have food shortages and water wars. That is not en environment to bring a kid into.
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Soon cosmically? Yes, very.
Soon relative to human life span? Very unlikely.
No, we won’t. At least, the millennials are the last safe generation.
What will slowly die at 38°C are sperm. Hopefully, it will affect the reproduction of some roten brain about climate change.
20years max.
Could be 12 hours
Beware of the upcoming hurricane season.
Overtemp gulf is going to create some monster storms.
And insurance companies are abandoning Florida in droves.
Yeah this was my first thought.
Americans reading this: * kalm *
Europeans reading this: * panik *
Thanks, I heard of it yet couldn’t find the definition :
Since 1893, the legal definition of the foot in the United States has been based on the meter. The definition adopted at that time was the one specified by Congress in 1866, as 1 foot = 1200/3937 meter exactly (or 1 foot = 0.304 800 6 meter approximately).
And now USA will use :
1 foot = 0.3048m
…much more convenient 😆 !…a simple approximation is 1"≈2½cm, 40"≈1m, 5’≈1½m for quick conversions in your head…
American temperatures really never do stop sounding ridiculous.
The Fahrenheit scale actually makes a lot of sense, unlike some other us units
Why don’t we just ditch both and use Kelvin instead
Nah let’s combine Freedom and Kelvin and use Rankine for even further confusion.
Say what?
Fahrenheit, but measured instead from absolute zero. Maximum confusion, but also maximum Freedom™ 🇺🇲 🦅 🇺🇲
How does it make sense?
It’s about as equally arbitrary as describing Celsius in terms of 101325 Pa (“standard pressure” boiling point).
Americans are more used to switching units and scales as they relate to the topic at hand. Describing distance between cities in inches is dumb. Using Celsius for the weather is equally unwieldy as the units are not fine grained and despite the headline, we’re not even halfway to the boiling point of water on the Celsius scale. And likewise, if you live in a cold climate, even 0C isn’t super relevant as a floor. Things don’t even get uncomfortable until -10C anyway.
Speaking of Pascals, I feel “conversational” in Celsius and it kinda works but Pascals are even more irrelevant to daily tasks. Things don’t even get interesting until you get to 200 kPa and jumps of less than 100kPa aren’t very noteworthy. It’s like currency after massive inflation.
Because we have used it all our lives, that’s really it. We know water freezes at 32f and our body temp is around 98.6. The weather channel says it’s 70,80,90 every day and we know what that feels like. In a day to day contact we don’t have to covert to Kelvin or anything so the standard Fahrenheit scale works fine
You can do that with every unit though. How does that make any more sense than inches or ounces?
There are more degrees of lived temperatures, and the difference between 68 and 73 is whether or not you need a jacket.
Inches and ounces are different forms of measurement so I’m not quite sure of the comparison.
I have been and lived in both the FREEDOM land and the rest of the world for a significant period of time 10y+, the “it has more marks on the thermometer” isn’t really a good argument, turns out there is no “71° time for a slightly warmer jacket” in reality.
there is no “71 time for a warmer jacket” in reality.
As an ohioan I strongly disagree with this statement
Meters and grams are a decimal system which makes more sense than non decimal systems.
The difference in temperature units is just the somewhat arbitrary starting points. And there are valid arguments for both.
It doesn’t “make sense” in a day to day sense. It made sense to researchers first investigating the properties of heat and temperature. 0F is a benchmark temperature that can be reliably produced with a mixture of water, ice and salt. The mixture will moderate itself by melting the ice such that the temperature stays at exactly 0F until the ice all melts. Why 1/180 the interval between freezing and boiling was chosen for the value of one degree, I dunno, but it’s probably similar to the reasons we use 360 degrees.
Celsius is the same, except with just water and ice - you don’t need to get some salt concentration right to reliably reproduce the zero, eliminating that as a variable. “Moderating itself until ice melts” is just something water does, no salt required.
Yeah, I’ve always wondered why they didn’t want to just use a frigorific slush without salt. I’m guessing that the salt version is more robust about maintaining its temperature, or it lasts longer, or something like that.
You can’t have water reliably below freezing without something like salt to keep it liquid? 0F is not serving the same purpose as 0C is. Not making an argument, just pointing out that they’re specifically after a liquid mixture that is below freezing for cooling things down to below freezing in times before refrigeration.
Yeah thats most likely en error.
Do yoy even know how temperature for buoys is measured? Its measured at 10 feet deep. Have you ever swam to the bottom of the pool and felt it colder? Thats because it is.
If it really was 100 degrees some 3.5m below sea level, then the surface would be way hotter due to sun exposure/radiation. My guess would be basically too hot to touch.
I provide evidence and you give your opinion. Essentially you brought a knife to a gun fight and are bitching about how it made no sense you lost.
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Okay. You can provide article after article but unless you can help me understand why temperatures 10 feet below the ocean can show near scalding levels i dont care to entertain your rebuttals. Really, this is your opportunity to help me understand.
Provide proof on your take first. Otherwise I will consider you dead on the floor, so unable to offer any knowledge whatsoever.
So i went and looked for it myself since you didnt want to. I found that bouys measure the epipelagical zone which has a usual and average temperature due to several factors (mainly wind and mixing currents). Temperatures usually have a steep decline in temperature when it reaches the thermocline which is what i was referring to earlier. This thermocline actually drops in the summer meaning the epilagical zone has more depth but is generally already lower in costal areas. Here, its not unusual for waters to be between 90F to 104F in the summer. If you want to know more, just google “Surface Sea Temperature In-Situ Methodology”.
So there i didnt your homework for you and i proved myself wrong. Its likely not an error but a usual occurance(maybe even a bit higher than normal).
Props for seeking out answers and sharing
38,4°C for non americans.
Thats pretty hot
Don’t forget the Cayman Islands and Liberia.
Thank you.
Nah, I prefer the title without units. It allows me to imagine the oceans boiling, which would just cement Florida as being literal hell.
Doing the Lord’s work
I assume that’s 100° Freedom rather than 100° Civilised?
You’re proving your own point wrong by asking this question.
Nope, ocean is boiling.
I didn’t even know it was possible.
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What other minority populations does Florida need to purge and abuse to get God’s knickers out of the bunch they’re in!?!
Nazis?
Whoa there… that’s a protected category.
They said minority populations.
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If in doubt, double down.
At least the ocean will be nice and warm when it floods their houses
I believe it. I’m not even in Florida (thank God), but my pool temp is 95F today. It’s literally too hot to swim.
Could you toss some ice cubes in there?
I live in this shit hole state and it js miserable how hot it is. Our inside temperature for my house is like 84 during the day…
Humans are so fucking stupid, in general. We deserve to be replaced by something better. It won’t be long. The planet appears to be winding up for another cycle & honestly I can’t fucking wait.
I’ve seen a surprising number of people on Lemmy with this depressing attitude. Not all humans deserve to die just because those in power don’t give a shit about the environment. And unfortunately, we’re not the only ones that will end up dying off. We’ll be taking a massive chunk of the planet with us.
Fuck this is scary. Wish some extreme actions were being taken for this extreme situation.
