• KevinM
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    61 year ago

    ⚠️ Warning:

    There may be an offensive/gross picture posted in this thread. It was deleted from the thread a while ago but I’m still receiving reports for it. Your instance might not be correctly syncing deletions with the LW instance if you’re still seeing the comment. Sorry in advance if you see it.

  • @[email protected]
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    1 year ago

    Doesn’t really make sense in the context of windows tbh

    sudo = “superuser do”

    They should have made it NT-ASdo for “NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM do”

    Except it should actually be a powershell module so you have to type out the whole thing as NT-AuthoritySystem-Do

    /s

  • @[email protected]
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    I am pretty sure it won’t work 100% like sudo on Unix-likes, so why didn’t they come up with different name, like elevate? This command being sudo will only confuse users.

    • eatham 🇦🇺
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      151 year ago

      Whenever a windows user Google’s how to do something with it the Linux thing will show up. Microsoft might need to rethink this

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s probably why they named the Xbox One the Xbox One all those years ago. Whenever people googled how to mod an Xbox One to play pirated games, they would keep finding original Xbox crap instead since everyone up until that point called it “Xbox 1”.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              They didn’t want to say xbox 2 because it was less than PS3

              But Nintendo had no problems with jumping to 64

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                This is the real reason, they were afraid consumers would think “3 is bigger than 2 so the Sony one must be better”.

                I think Nintendo gets a pass because they never used numbers anyway: NES -> SNES -> 64 -> gamecube -> wii -> switch. The 64 of course was about the hardware technology and not the generation or anything.

            • @[email protected]
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              I gave up on paying attention to Xboxes when they started calling them such stupid fucking shit like “Xbox x series sx”. Now you have to be really familiar with Xbox lore to even figure out what the latest current one is.

      • darcy
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        31 year ago

        would you like to seach Edge™ with our Microsoft AI™?

    • @[email protected]
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      I think they want to compete with GNU/Linux and attract its users. They made WSL for probably the same reason. They even have a terminal now that almost doesn’t suck.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Yeah, when I used it, every command had like a second of delay. It was also buggy. But it has tabs and you can even split the window into multiple panes. So big improvement over cmd.

          • @[email protected]
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            How long ago did you try it? I gave the first iteration of wsl a chance and had the same experience, it was super slow especially for things like ls. Its a lot better since wsl2. Probably 90% or more the performance of bare metal install of linux

        • @[email protected]
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          41 year ago

          Windows terminal is now my preferred terminal. I use it on a daily basis at work, and adding in WSL just makes things easier in general for Windows. My google search history is no longer Powershell eqicalent for X in linux.

          • Possibly linux
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            41 year ago

            Well I’m glad it works for you. Also I don’t think it runs under wine so you are stuck on Windows.

      • darcy
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        21 year ago

        wsl is good for when ure forced to use windows

  • @[email protected]
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    91 year ago

    At this point just release a new Linux distro and call it “Windows for Developers” or something.

  • @[email protected]
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    181 year ago

    Sadly it doesn’t seem to handle the one use case I really wanted it to handle, which is running elevated commands through a terminal in a VSCode tunneling session without also having an RDP session open for me to click the confirmation dialog.

    • Possibly linux
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      11 year ago

      You should theoretically be able to login as a admin. I’ve never used VScode so I have no idea what your setup looks like.

    • @[email protected]
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      201 year ago

      No, that required the local admin account to have a password, which is usually unset (and the account is also locked). This uses the UAC system instead.

      • @[email protected]
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        81 year ago

        runas will run as whatever account you specify, so you can absolutely use it to run something as a domain admin account

  • Laurel Raven
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    Oh thank goodness, having to spawn a full admin terminal every time you need that is such a pita

      • Laurel Raven
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        11 year ago

        Yeah, I’m sure my IT security would love me putting that on the servers I manage

        Though, apparently, this is not going to be added to Server anyway…boo

        • voxel
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          11 year ago

          i mean it’s open source and has secure defaults so ¯_(ツ)_/¯…

          • Laurel Raven
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            11 year ago

            I’m going to guess you don’t have to work with an IT security office…

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      And there is absolutely no way, that I could find, to create or pin a shortcut to eg WinTerm, which would launch it as admin.

      • Laurel Raven
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        81 year ago

        Actually, that’s an easy one to workaround: hold down Ctrl+shift when you click on it (or any pinned application) and it will launch it elevated. Makes that part feel so much simpler and straightforward when I found that out.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      Maybe, but knowing the ease of sudo, I really hate using runas. Most of the time, I just want plain old admin privileges. Mostly I don’t care whether I can impersonate another user with this.

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        Given what MS did to powershell to make *nix commands like ls work (i.e. make them plain aliases to the equivalent powershell commands without any attempt to convert flags) I wouldn’t get my hopes up. (Nothing could have prepared me for the disappointment of typing ls -l and getting an error.)

        I hate to be a pessimist but $20 says they’re just making it so they can technically claim that Windows supports commands Linux users are used to and therefore that Linux users should have no trouble in a Windows environment.

      • @[email protected]
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        runas is trash, to be honest. I’ve been waiting 30 years for an OS-native tool that allows me to delegate specific commands for specific users to run with specific parameters as admin. Something I can do with sudo (well, sudoers) in 5 minutes is outright impossible on Windows. I’d like to believe that Microsoft will implement this part of sudo, but I’m not gonna hold my breath

    • @[email protected]
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      runas.exe cannot start elevated process. Exceptions seem to be MMC snap-ins so you can launch something like lusrmgr.msc or devmgmt.msc with admin account and you will have admin rights.

    • ToRA
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      21 year ago

      Is scoop better than chocolatey?

      • katy ✨
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        i have both but i do prefer scoop over chocolatey since it’s a bit simpler to use. it’s also more like homebrew.

        winget-ui will pull from chocolatey and scoop and winget, though.

          • katy ✨
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            doesn’t winget support msstore updates anyway?

            oh, or do you mean if scoop supported msstore?

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              I’ve seen ms store options here too but I’ve never seen winget update existing ms store apps even though I pass the --all flag

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        21 year ago

        Way more stable and reliable. It just doesn’t install programs normally (installed programs won’t show up under add and remove)

  • fkn
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    Win12 confirmed as a Linux mint cinnamon derivative distro.

  • Kickass Women
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    281 year ago

    Some quotes from Steve Jobs about Microsoft:

    • The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. And I don’t mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way, in the sense that they don’t think of original ideas, and they don’t bring much culture into their products. --Triumph of the Nerds (1996)
    • I am saddened, not by Microsoft’s success — I have no problem with their success. They’ve earned their success, for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third-rate products. --Triumph of the Nerds (1996)
    • I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If that was the case, Microsoft would have great products.
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          Nah, senile grandad needs a phone too.

          Simple, overpriced tech for simple people who don’t prioritize tech or value.

          I hate Steve Jobs specifically, his proud lack of charity, his overt need for the credit of talented people despite being nothing more than a marketer, and notably letting his proven child live on welfare for years as he was worth at the time millions. Most pos market capitalist oligarchs join Jobs in rejecting charity (commensurate with their wealth) and community, but even most of them somehow manage to play human when it comes to paying for their own children to eat without complaint, which made Jobs a particularly awful human being, even among our sociopath owners, which takes a lot of talent in being awful.