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Tesla Cybertruck May Have A Rust Problem::One of the more standout qualities of the Tesla Cybertruck is its bare stainless-steel body. The stainless-steel body gives the Cybertruck a unique design, but
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How on Earth do you fuck that up?
money
I would argue hubris.
And what fuels hubris? Money
So, money and hubris. And cocaine.
And ego.
I saw one in the bay area Sunday, it absolutely had a distinct mud/baby-poop patina. Couldn’t believe how much it stood out, how non-practical it appeared to be as a truck (I’d take a Rivian r1t any day for functional truck), and just how rusted it appeared to be (I thought it had driven through mud at first, but it was way too evenly dispersed), it couldn’t have been a year old, or seen more than ten days rain.
I think I’d prefer a patina over the bare stainless. It would make it look like something out of mad Max. There are steels that will form an oxidizing layer that actually protects the metal.
Weathering steel, we used it for bridges all the time a few years ago, although it seems to have fallen out of favour recently. Asset owners liked it because you don’t have to repaint it every few years (good for both reducing disruption and avoids having people work at height).
The patina can look quite nice (in my subjective opinion) but it’s not particularly resistant to impact, and requires a thicker section size than painted steel.
Automotive application could certainly be… Interesting.
Lol; now to be fair (and I’m by no means a truck guy), I find the Rivian absolutely adorable with it’s unique headlight design. Makes me think of Megaman every time I see one, for some reason.
Ok, adorable might not be what a truck driver wants to hear, but I’m the kind of person who yells “tiny dick” to himself every time I see a F-250 or bigger, in pristine condition and nothing in the back. Adorable = not insecure = cool dude or dudette.
Do specific cars actually make you think of other men’s cocks? I too think pavement princess trucks are a joke but I just don’t understand why other people seem to think of genitals when they see vehicles.
It’s mostly a joke, and my wife laughs when I see a mini or something and say “that dude must have a huuuuge cock!”-- a line I say less now that I have kids, haha.
That said, there is a certain kind of guy who most certainly takes offense most when genitalia are brought up. That, I believe, correlates with pavement princesses. (And while I hate to admit it, I’ve also kind of enjoyed co-opting the term “cuck” use since it tend to cut the deepest against the very same kinds of people who use said term. Has zero effect on my more liberal friends, too.)
Huh I guess there isn’t an age limit to dick jokes lol thanks for sharing!
One way to keep the Cybertruck’s stainless steel body from rust and damage is to get it wrapped. Interestingly enough, while Tesla saved some money by not clear coating the truck’s body, the automaker offers a “Satin Clear Paint Film” and a “Color Paint Film” for the Cybertruck that costs $5,000 and $6,000. The “self-healing, urethane-based film” protects the truck from scratches and corrosive substances. After hearing about the issues that current owners are having with rust and corrosion on their trucks, we’d consider the film to be a must-have for Cybertruck owners.
There’s a fix, it just cost 6k…
“self-healing, urethane-based film
Urethane? You mean paint?
https://www.eastwood.com/paints/automotive-finishes/colors/single-stage-urethane.html
Its like these amateurs are figuring out why we paint cars… its because Urethane protects the metals from rust. I guess they could use Urethane film instead, but that’s probably just not as good or efficient as paint…
They keep using the words “stainless steel” which is an alloy created to be rustproof by removing the iron out of it. So how exactly is this stainless steel if it rusts?
it rusts less, far less in fact, but it still does rust.
Also there are different grades, i bet they cheaped out
There are different qualities of stainless steel. Remember kids, it’s stain less not stain never.
I guess there is still iron in it. Looks like they didn’t use an alloy with enough chromium for the application.
Well it has to be workable/formable, weldable and crack resistant under stress. Just welding most stainless mess with its ferrous properties.
Forming it screws it up too. Work hardening after forging can make it magnetic.
Tesla, cutting corners?! Say it isn’t so!
In addition to funny is this also actually true?
Absolutely. Why would they call it less if it’s actually never? That would be exceptionally terrible marketing.
Sure, “less” means “fewer” or “not as much as”.
But the suffix “-less” means “without”:
- flawless: no flaws
- spotless: no spots; clean
- fearless: without fear
Reckless: without wrecks
Nah, that’s without Rekts.
So then it’s genius marketing. Stainless absolutely stains and rusts.
Yeah. I have a small pocket knife i carry everywhere, it is stainless. I’ve had it for years, and frequently bring it in the water with me clipped to my swim suit (incase i need to cut a tangled rope). I wash it like a dish with soap and water, i use it hard and put it away wet, and it has been fine for years and years.
After all this, i took it on a single trip in salt water, it spotted with rust that night.
I also have a Sig P938 SAS which has a stainless slide. I keep that dry and oil it on occasion, and yet that one spotted with rust within a year despite me taking good care of it. Luckily sig replaced the slide but this taught me one good lesson.
Different grades of stainless make it different grades of rust resistant. Kind of like calling IP67 electronics, like the iPhone 7, “waterproof” when they can only really withstand splashing. Some can get dunked, some can’t.
I’m being pedantic here, but stainless steel still has iron in it. The addition of chromium forms an oxide layer on the surface that prevents rust. If the body is rusting, that means they used a shitty grade of stainless. Stainless with an appropriate amount of chromium (and nickel) is expensive as fuck.
Stainless can go goofy after working it. Work hardening can even make stainless magnetic. Sorry, I don’t know the physics of why.
The answer is in the name. It’s stainless not stainproof
Stainless has chromium added. Iron is still the main element. Different stainless steels have various other elements added, like molybdenum. There’s a wide range of SS for various purposes depending on their formability, weldability, corrosion resistance, heat treatment or precipitation hardened. Some are mildly magnetic (400 series), others not (300 series). Big range of cost too. Not sure which one they used. There’s also a finishing process called passivation that should be used to reduce the likelihood of corrosion.
You are absolutely right, just for clarity:
Chromium needs to be > 12 weight-%. If you take 18 w-% Cr and 8 w-% Ni you get an austenitic steel which is (normally) neither magnetic nor able to be hardened.
And if you add 12 w-% Cr, you remove 12 w-% Fe. So formally this is right-ish too…
Selling you back the clear coat they never gave it.
The car equivalent of launch DLC that should have been in the base game
Yeah, but when the hell is it going to get wet? You don’t drive these things outside.
They should have went with weathering steel instead, and just leaned into it. This is literally Delorean all over again. Beginning to think Musk microchipped his own brain.
So they used the wrong grade of stainless?
FFS add it to the pile of embarrassment
It’s not really a surprise at this point. They’ve been avoiding automotive grade parts for a reasonable amount of their cars. Notably the screen.
Worse, it’s a proprietary tesla steel.
Given their current track record for QA I’m going to guess that it’s the lowest grade they could still call stainless
Depends whether Elon made the decision or Captain Sensible snuck in and did it while Elon was playing with Twitter.
It’s not like Tesla doesn’t have smart people, they just don’t get to make the decisions some of the time.
Jesus Christ that crab is after us for our cars’ extended warranties now!
They should have used C#
Should have repurposed the Apollo 11 source code
From what I hear, the panels of that car are sharp as fuck.
Great news! Tell me - does he happen to make spaceships as well?
Good news, everyone!
Well, the sooner these fugly things rust back into the earth, the better.
Since I first saw a picture of the thing I thought it was ugly as hell. Last week I saw one in real life and I have to say, it’s even uglier than I thought it was. And it really looks like it could have been an '80s era crappy kit car for a full size truck chassis. I mean, strikingly ugly and stupid looking. Embarrassingly so.
I’ve seen a few now and every time I can’t help but think that it’s like what a 4 year old with a marker and paper trying to draw a truck from memory would look like in real life.
But isn’t Rust supposed to be great and memory safe?
Shoulda used nim or something
Thought it was Rustlang lol
Same, but I’ve heard nothing but good things so I thought this was strange.
Just as with the battery issues, owners will be out with warranty for driving in the rain
Rust proofing. Wasn’t that something dealers would add in as a scam for a few bucks?
Once again, there is a Seinfeld reference here.
I need a Seinfeld reference bot.
