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A seventh case, the first in a child under age 5, follows the state’s controversial surgeon general’s decision to let parents decide whether to quarantine children or keep them in school.
The Florida measles outbreak is expanding. On Friday, health officials in Broward County confirmed a seventh case of the virus, a child under age 5.
The patient is the youngest so far to be infected in the outbreak, and the first to be identified outside of Manatee Bay Elementary School in Weston, near Fort Lauderdale.
It’s unknown what connection the youngest measles case has to the school, but the spread beyond school-age kids was expected.
Cases are “not going to stay contained just to that one school, not when a virus is this infectious,” said Dr. David Kimberlin, co-director of the division of pediatric infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
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Hey on a side note I have no idea if I ever got my second shot as a kid. There is only a record of one shot and my mom can’t remember. I have always figured that with herd immunity one would be good enough. Seeing that herd immunity is now in question I am wondering if I might need to re-up. Any have any experience with this? One or two shots? I will ask the doc next time, but in the meantime let’s get some random inter-mation
In general, you need two doses, but as someone else mentioned, you can check your antibody status by having a titer drawn.
Just let your GP know. I recently got a blood test done to figure out what I’ve been immunised against. Highly recommend.
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^This. You can get titers checked for all of your childhood vaccinations. Hep B is a good one to check because it doesn’t always “stick” even when you get 2 doses as a kid. Almost every childhood vaccination can be given to adults with roughly equivalent effectiveness.
All of the unvaccinated children’s parents should be charged with child endangerment.
Should be charged with bio-terrorism
That would be the governor
And his surgeon general.
Por que no los dos
Here is the problem as I see it and I don’t know a way around it:
*There are some kids who cannot get vaccinated for legitimate reasons such as allergies or being immunocompromised.
*There are highly unethical anti-vax doctors willing to give anti-vax parents fake exemptions based on those legitimate reasons that their kids don’t actually have.
So how do you get around that?
Investigate those exemptions and make sure they are legit. Fire any doctor who gives out fake ones.
A brief search indicates that only 1-2% of children are unable to receive traditional vaccinations due to allergies or immunocompromised conditions.
I’m willing to bet that the unethical doctors writing exemptions likely have an unbalanced amount of child-vaccination exemptions to administered child-vaccinations ratio. Such discrepancies should be thoroughly investigated.
In other words, if more than 2 out of every 100 children, a particular doctor consults with, are given vaccination exemptions, then something is suspicious.
That might work. In a sane state. Unfortunately, Florida would likely just let doctors get away with it if some such law astoundingly got passed. Their surgeon general is an anti-vaxer.
Yeah. It’s truly bat-shit crazy watching what’s going on. What a miracle vaccinations are, a true testament to mankind’s prowess. Then Florida does this (Alabama - lookin’ at you too, bruh).
That doesn’t work. Doctors specialize in specific things. There are probably doctors who legitimately have 100% vaccine exempt patients for medical reasons.
The real problem is that doctors can’t be “fired”. Stop asking the government to do something when it’s really the AMA licensing board that is the problem.
It’s a private organization that is run by doctors. Obviously doctors are not going to prioritize making it easier to take away someone’s license. Demand the AMA do something about “killer doctors” or something. If their brand is associated with sickness, then they might take action.
Hey, maybe the AMA licensing board should be a government body! Maybe industry self-regulation doesn’t work!
Narrator: It doesn’t
There’s a lot off distance between “something is suspicious” and “this individual is criminally liable”.
Criminally dubious, indeed. But here we are, where laws in this and many other regressive states are breaking and bending in ways that befuddle the mind - the educated mind at least.
If only we had vaccines for this.
Oh, wait.Eh well this is how it goes. People aren’t really all that intelligent and we operate mostly of emotion, or rationalization.
I wouldnt be shocked if we’re at 50+ cases in 2 weeks.
Yep! Measles is sooooo contagious and takes a week or two to show symptoms.
50+ kids already have it now.
Anyone who didn’t go home and isolate immediately is probably already infected if they weren’t vaccinated
yep. exactly my point.
and then when it gets too hot down there, all of the snowbirds migrate out and start an insane summer spread for the rest of the continent
Ugh, I hadn’t even thought of that …
The vast majority of snowbirds would be vaccinated.
The antivax movement wasn’t as big when they were kids, they would have gotten their shots back then.
Mmr does wear off though. Some older Americans got titers drawn and showed they were no longer immune so they got a third shot.
Not sure what he acip recommendation on that is though.
If this continues (and given this dumbass surgeon general and the antivax movement it will), we might start getting recommendations to get your MMR checked after X years or even for everyone to get it checked.
If you don’t vaccinate your kids against dangerous diseases, you’re a dummy. Vaccines are safe and needed to keep EVERYONE safe from outbreaks.
Frankly, vaccination shouldn’t even be up for debate. The science speaks for itself. It’s infuriating that there are people who endanger their own child and others based on a poor grasp of science and medicine.
I’m SO glad we got our whole family out of that shithole.
It’s not a controversial decision… it’s a dumb as fuck decision not based in medicine or science.
But but… Feelings
Ita a criminal decision
Reminder that Florida’s Surgeon General, hand-picked by DeSantis, is an anti-vaxxer.
And he’s telling parents of kids without measles vaccinations to send their kids to school during this outbreak.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/joseph-ladapo-florida-ron-desantis-measles
Anyone whose kid catches measles because of this should sue the surgeon general for malpractice. Maybe also drop a complaint to the medical board, see if they can get his medical license revoked.
As much as I’d love to see that, the likelihood of it happening is low. The boards move on public opinion and consensus. The public they care about may be only other doctors, but as we’ve seen since covid, there are plenty of doctors who listened to Ozzy and boarded the crazy train.
Public consensus is that vaccines for diseases like measles, polio, etc., are a good thing. Even most of the people and doctors who were against taking the covid vaccines seem to be in agreement with this, or at least the ones I have heard speak on the subject. Its just an extremely small outlier that claims otherwise.
Still, I feel like you are sadly right about the likelihood of any sort of prosecution happening. I would also love to see logic prevail, every once in a while.
MMR was the boogeyman jab that started the whole modern antivax movement. I wouldn’t say it’s rare for antivax people to be opposed to getting the measles vaccination.
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Thank god this could never happen in a first world country.
Florida reaps what it sows. Hahahah Hahaha
It’s not those kids’ fault and they’re the ones suffering.
Any of these kids vaccinated?
Florida, Florida, Florida.
Mmm! Very stupid. Much wow.
Good luck!
