Please start your comments with the following question answered at the top:
“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]
It’s crazy how much energy is already being put into blaming voters for being turned off by an undesirable politician.
Usually this happens after an election.
Biden supporting genocide WILL disengage voters regardless of how bad the other guy is. His decision to support genocide will hand Trump the presidency on a silver platter.
If someone kicks their dog, the dog responds by biting the fucker, and the fucker responds to the bite by giving the dog away to some other fucker who kicks the dog even more… are we really going to criticize the dog for biting fucker#1? How about don’t kick the god damned dog??
It didn’t stop people from voting for Obama. It didn’t stop people from voting for Clinton. What makes you think Biden will be treated any differently?
“voters are stupid, don’t blame them for that.”
Trump supports the Isreali genocide and also wants to do the same thing at home with immigrants.
no amount of genocide is acceptable
Enjoy the straw man
it’s not a strawman
It is if both sides are supporting genocide. They cancel out. You have to start looking at other things to criticize Biden for.
why? One thing is enough if the thing is genocide. I’m just going to vote for somebody else.
And yet your vote will help trump regardless of whether you shove your head in the sand or not. Reality exists outside your head.
Are you seriously arguing that criticisms of Democrats don’t count if the Republicans hold the same position? Wanna think about that one again?
Do you even know what that term means?
No I just use it blindly because I’m a moron who votes third party
Other than giving more genocide a free pass, what are your plans to reduce genocide?
I’m not giving genocide a free pass.
Voting for anyone other than Biden will in effect be like voting for Trump, who will make the Israel/Palestine crisis even more kinetic in Israel’s favor.
this is election misinformation: they can’t count my vote for trump or Biden unless that who I vote for.
Biden supporting genocide WILL disengage voters regardless of how bad the other guy is. His decision to support genocide will hand Trump the presidency on a silver platter.
Trump supports the genocide more. And locally, he wants to throw migrants into camps. See the bigger picture
You legit just said “Trump supports the genocide more", and then probably felt like you had moral superiority in the argument. Do you understand how insane it is that you’re arguing over who is more genocidy?
It doesn’t really matter who you vote for, because if the US is at the point where they’re voting based on who is going to kill less people, then the country is already a fascist state and all hope of turning that around is lost. You’re all just fighting over what flavor of fascism you get.
Do you know how braindead it is to treat things as equal which are vastly, vastly different, in consequential ways that will end in large amounts of human suffering?
It matters more than ever in history who you vote for. You are the exact type of turd that inspired this post.
I’m not the sort of person that inspired this post. The type that inspired this post is the type that thinks democrats are as bad as republicans. I don’t think that goes far enough. I’m the sort who thinks the US government is a profoundly evil institution, the continuation of which is the sole cause of untold suffering elsewhere in the world. I’m hoping Trump wins, because it will destabilize the entire nation and hopefully be the push we need to lose our position as the global superpower. If Americans need to suffer for that to happen, then perhaps it will be a learning experience on what it’s been like living in Latin America and the Middle East for the past several decades while the US government toys with weaker nations for profit.
So don’t confuse me with those sorts of people. They just want democrats to lose. I want America to burn. We are not the same.
“I’m not a mental sloth, I’m actually a passive terrorist”
Listen, nothing you could possibly say to me is going to offend me, because I don’t know you and I don’t care what you think. You’re just getting yourself worked up, so why don’t you do yourself a favor and just stop replying to me.
Speaking of being a “passive terrorist”, if anyone else needs help setting up encrypted anonymous comms for supporting their direct action, hit me up. I’d be more than happy to teach anyone ways to avoid government surveillance.
All of you society destroyers think responses are about you. They are about passersby who need to understand what you are.
Noooooo, gus fring accelerationists are not allowed as part of my libtard political worldview! Nooooo! America can still be saved! Think of the children! Think of the people who are suffering in already pretty bad circumstances that can’t get much worse! Noooo! My middle class purview and perspective is making me think that this is all still salvageable as everyone around me dies and suffers and I can’t see it! Noooo!
You are far worse than the shitbags I lumped you in with. My bad.
This observation is neither prudent nor profound.
And locally, he wants to throw migrants into camps.
Biden is doing that right now…
So did Obama…
And trump does not support Israel genocide more than Biden. trump would want something out of it. Biden needs nothing in return
This is the danger of running Biden. As bad as trump is, Biden is also shitty.
We could have locked in a dem.win by running a halfway decent candidate that isn’t two decades past retirement age.
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And trump does not support Israel genocide more than Biden. trump would want something out of it. Biden needs nothing in return
You’re delusional. Get some help and start searching for a way back to reality.
What?
Do you need a source for Biden saying he’s a Zionist and has unconditional support for Israel no matter what happens in the future?
Or did you mean you want a source for trump supporting anything that privately enriches himself or makes him feel good about himself?
Biden and trump supporters are too similar these days it’s hard to tell who I pissed off.
Do you need a source for Trump being a Hitler worshipping piece of shit who wants to kill everyone that isn’t white?
Well at least I know you’re a Biden supporter now instead of a trump supporter.
Have a nice life, hope it gets better.
If you meant that, you wouldn’t be trying to help Trump win.
I vote for Pedro
Socialism 2024
If you deny people their right to expect their politicians to deliver what they want, then you will lose them. Yes Trump is a serious risk, but Biden could easily listen to the people, and deliver what they want. There are so many things he could do. There are things he is doing, but people are allowed to expect more.
Politicians need to meet the needs of the people. Why is it always expected that people meet the needs of the politicians in order to prevent catastrophe, without getting what they need.
This election is easy. Vote blue because the only other viable party is straight up fascist and don’t even want another election (because they’d keep losing). So I’ll vote for a blue rock if it’s a vote against the people saying they wanna take us back to the stone ages with a touch of Nazi Germany with a sprinkle of Italian fascism on top, and don’t forget the good old American fascism. Comes in 5 great new flavors!
Honestly NATO should be disbanded. If there is no Soviet Union, there should be no NATO. Most of the wars in the World right know are fought by NATO countries. You can vote for whoever you want, but I really think the focused should be on getting Biden and Trump not to be candidates anymore, then focusing on the fight between the two. They have a lot more similarities with each other, then between us and them.
No, I’m English. We’ve got our own horrible cunts to vote out.
N…yet. Despite some of the claims, we, Russians, don’t participate in foreign elections.
That said, the existence of the state of Israel is entirely because of the US support. One could say, it’s a US-orchestrated proxy war against the Arab league. The ongoing genocide is on you guys (yes, you too can throw bricks at me for the Ukraine war). But, on the other hand, without the US support, Israel is likely going to fail, and Arabs are definitely going to return the favor, causing even bigger genocide, and disdain from millions of Jews, most of which are in the US. It’s a lose-lose situation. I don’t see any reason why Trump, being the racist that he is, would drop the US’s base of operations within middle east either.
So, vote Biden, I guess, he’s a two faced fuck but at least he’s not actively malicious or trying to turn the US into an authoritarian state (trust me, that’d suck).
Instead of making these two idiots our only options, why don’t we vote for other people instead?
“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?”
Yes
I look at these people and can’t quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention? To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it? To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.
David Sedaris
I’m voting for Trump. Liberals have shown me how unhinged they are with their support for Hamas.
“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?”
Primary? No. General? If he makes it.
The current electoral phase is the primary, which is what those voting ‘Uncommitted’ are involved in. You have to understand this the first, last, and only phase in the presidential election cycle where voters have ANY say, even the possibility of it, on influencing executive policy for their party.
Anyone thinking criticism of Biden in a primary is the same as supporting Trump in the general is delusional and demonstrably doesn’t understand the electoral process for president.
Are people like OP really concerned about Dean Philips or Marianne Williamson becoming the democratic party candidate? Because that is the phase we are in: internal party primary elections. People are trying to shape the Democratic Party platform through a democratic process and there is all this blowback that amounts only to “B-but Trump!”
That perspective relies on a misunderstanding, willful or not, of American Presidential election cycles.
Though I still am hedging my bets that at least one of the general election candidates keels over in the next 6 months.
Something something expecting people to only vote out of fear of what they will get, instead of what you will give them is bad.
Something something we have to support genocide because trump bad.
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For all that Biden has done and is doing wrong, he has still done more good for people here at home. People here choosing not to vote for Biden simply because of his support for Israel would damn this entire country, their country, to help people who don’t even know them terrify me.
