Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…

What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

  • @[email protected]
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    762 years ago

    I’ve been in forums where upvotes were public. It’s not something that I expect to be anonymous by design.

    That being said. If something is public, it should be clear that is public (and available to everyone), if it’s not it should be protected.

    I think Lemmy should go one way or the other, or upvotes are public to everyone, or they are available only for you instance admins.

  • kennydidwhat
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    1522 years ago

    There’s something amusing about people feeling violated by their activity being made public, but not necessarily by corporations hoarding and capitalizing on that activity & data. I mean, one of them is out in the open. The other is pure abuse.

  • Margot Robbie
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    2 years ago

    Suppose there is someone who wants to maintain their anonymity and privacy on Lemmy so that it couldn’t be tied to their real identity, what do you think is the best way to do that?

    Hmm, I, famous Hollywood actress Margot Robbie and star of “Barbie”, sure am stumped.

  • @[email protected]
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    812 years ago

    I mean essentially any decentralised type of social Media cannot work any other way. An open backend is not shocking, it is expected.

  • trouser_mouse
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    122 years ago

    I think this is to be expected - some instances have downvotes disabled but that doesn’t seem to be the rule of thumb.

    There are quite a few questions about data retention, usage, retrieval, compliance and how it is shared which will need to be addressed as the platform grows.

    Countdown for this to be monetised by someone.

  • @[email protected]
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    212 years ago

    If you are doing anything tgat could get you in legal trouble on the internet, only use acounts that can not be linked to your real life identity, and always use tools like Tor. Do not depend on tools like private messages, private voting, etc. In those cases, there is always someone who can give you away, and service admins will give out information when the feds come knocking.

  • @[email protected]
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    I think this is a good conversation to have, I’m assuming there are no security checks to make sure instances connecting to each other are legitimately released and code reviewed by the community? I’m also curious if you could run a malicious instance that garners a lot more information from your users than is necessary or uses security holes to gather information from other instances. This could send this entire experiment down the toilet very fast. For instance HTTPS guarantees you are connecting to who they say they are and are from a trusted source. At the very least it would be nice to be able to have control over your credentials and history, and only release it to trusted instances.

  • Popsip
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    So if one downvotes something and then removes that vote, does doing that removes it saying they downvoted or does it still keep it on record?

  • @[email protected]
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    802 years ago

    At first I agreed with the general “whatever” sentiment. It has some important implications, however.

    It discourages people from voting if they’re concerned about other people seeing their activity. This could result in a lower quality of scoring for posts.