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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…
What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.
Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.
I’m safe, I upboated the beans
I’ve been in forums where upvotes were public. It’s not something that I expect to be anonymous by design.
That being said. If something is public, it should be clear that is public (and available to everyone), if it’s not it should be protected.
I think Lemmy should go one way or the other, or upvotes are public to everyone, or they are available only for you instance admins.
If you ask me, I’d make upvotes/downvotes public overall. Always hated how on reddit some miserable people downvote lots of innocent stuff, hiding behind their anonymity.
Lemmy & Reddit are public discussion platforms, everything you do here should be public, it’s not like you use them to store private information.
Not that surprising.
Yea is good to know. I knew that early bc someone said that someone else accosted them after they reduced/downvoted one of their posts
Why are you selecting for long names? 😅
To not actually dox people, just demonstrate.
So I could squish the column and not show people’s full names.
Good. DM me. I’ll tell you why I downvoted your shitpost.
Good
Woah woah woah. Hold the phone. You’re telling me that things that I post… on the internet… are… PUBLIC???
There is a fundamental misunderstanding here.
Our data has never been ‘invisible’… We’ve just trusted that places like Reddit and their staff will do the right thing. That’s literally how it already works.
If you sign up for Reddit, Reddit staff can see your posts and votes if they want to.
If you sign up for a private forum the admin there can also see database contents.
One way encryption is not possible without stopping functionality… If data about you was encrypted then posts you make couldn’t be displayed. If you include a means to decrypt then there was no point encrypting anyway.
This is how it’s always been, and Lemmy doesn’t change this status quo much.
A faceless corporation that has had access to your data is just replaced by a variety of admins distributed across instances.
This isn’t a good or bad thing, the potential for abuse does exist, but when we have literally made agreements with places like Reddit that they can use and sell our data… then what difference does it make it an admin takes a peek?
It wouldn’t be great… but nothing is perfect.
It’s still worth working on however, to see if a better solution can be found, but at this time I’d say just be aware that it is possible that your data can be seen and understand the only safeguard against that if you need to communicate something private would be to use direct messaging with end to end encryption.
It shouldn’t be like that. I hope it gets changed.
I often find the feed cluttered with posts which do not interest me that much. Haven’t found a sorting method which works for me.
What does work for me: Hiding read posts (in absence of a feature to hide specific posts without reading them).
This seems to also hide posts I’ve voted on. So I vote on unread posts just to get rid of them, in lack of a better method to control my stream.
https://github.com/BanzooIO/federated_policies_and_tos/tree/main
Privacy exists - until it doesn’t.
Use Tor
my instance doesn’t have or federate downvotes, so I don’t have to worry