Streisand effect is currently very active on this one. Thousands of news outlets, many extremely casual and geared towards average joes who never new emulation existed, are now all being told that “this thing called yuzu can play switch games for free”. Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot. Even if Yuzu dies, it will get forked and people who never knew emulation existed, now do, and look for alternatives.
Has it occurred to you that commerce might see advantage in weaponizing the Streisand effect?
This is how I’m learning there’s an emulator for Switch games.
Funny thing is Switch was the first Nintendo device I’d even considered buying since GBC, but now that I know I can use my own hardware instead of paying through the nose for a locked-down Pi with a tiny screen and a shitty doll-size controller I’ll probably go that route instead. If I decide their branded shovelware is even worth playing in 2024 that is.
The new Mario vs Donkey Kong, for $49.99, feels like it was someone’s first swing at Super Mario Maker…
If I decide their branded shovelware is even worth playing in 2024 that is.
And in a single sentence you tanked your entire credibility. Nintendo is pretty much the last publisher/developer of AAA games that still bothers with having high quality and fun experiences.
Yeah hate the business as much as you want but they never stopped making AAA games worth playing. Literally everything else has gone to shit but Mario is still fucking awesome.
“credibility” gtfo that’s hilarious.
hey guys you need credibility to be a random jackoff on a forum with an opinion now.
Believe it or not, normal humans with normal brains tend to not be just a random nerd in a forum. If you want to reduce yourself to a channer, by all means…
Also, what the fuck do you think discussion is?
You know why I played the games on yuzu? It’s because the joycons suck and they are expensive to replace.
I did the stick drift repair on my own, but the L and R buttons are soldiered to the main board so it can’t be repaired.
I bought a right joycon on its own and then the next week the left joycon had the same issue.
I wasn’t going to spend about $90 for an unreliable controller when an entire steamdeck costs $500.
It really paints the picture that the controllers are way over priced how can they alone be 20% the cost of the entire steamdeck.
If Nintendo made decent joycons, then I would not be using Yuzu.
Additionally, I dumped my own games and keys, so they got their money and through some effort, I got a better experience.
I’d like to add that the joycons were not heavily used either.
Unfortunately, PS5 controllers have the same issue. Slightly cheaper, but same exact shitty parts for the joystick. Going to try aftermarket (with serviceable parts) for my next one.
Not for you since you’ve exited the Switch, but for anyone else with stick drift: Gulikit makes replacement hall effect joycon sticks that do not drift. Easy to replace and inexpensive.
Just try not to get fakes that are just the normal garbage with drift
I’ve been eyeing Yuzu to play games like Pokemon Scarlet and Xenoblade 3 since they both run like shit on the switch and a smooth 60 fps at 4k on Yuzu.
I bought both games at release, I just can’t stand playing at 20 fps.
Joycon drift is the main reason why I stopped playing my switch.
Your situation is not applicable to why the lawsuit exists.
It’s the idiots that pirated and leaked TOTK a week before the release date that gave Nintendo ammunition for this case. As a result, everybody who is using Yuzu legitimately will suffer for it.
Every hacked switch can do it too, but they aren’t going against Atmosphere.
Yuzu did not pirate the game. Other people did. What did Yuzu do that was illegal?
Did the movie studies sue dvd player makers because people ran pirated movies on them?
yes
Why didn’t you just get a better controller? You would have saved yourself a lot of time, effort, and probably money.
I’m not in the US, so the options I had here were either expensive or didn’t have any reviews.
I’ve been wanting a steamdeck for some time and that is what pushed me to get one.
A lot of modern controllers are really ass tbh. I still use a wired usb xbox 360 controller. Doesn’t work on Switch without modding/hacking/emulating.
I’m also in the “my USB Xbox 360 controller is great” camp and wish that they still made them
You are stuck two decades ago in time. There are plenty of good to great controllers. Shit, there’s multiplatform controllers that work perfectly and have all the bells and whistles and gyros that first party controllers have.
True, I bet there good ones out there, but I have no need to replace it yet.
But you’ll complain about using twenty year old technology anyways, and make up nonsense about current tech. Ok.
I’m complaining about manufacturers cheaping out, not the age of the tech I’m using.
But you are wrong. A lot of modern controllers are not ass. The Switch controllers are. That’s it.
Mirrored it just in case something happens
https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src
This is worth mirroring as well.
Sweet
With today’s announcement, I’m super happy you did this 4 days ago. Time to make a few clones myself.
Kinda happy to have saved it
It’s gone… lol
Streisand effect in action. I am never going to buy anything Nintendo, because they’re a dog-shit company. I hadn’t realised a Switch emulator existed. Andddd… My wife would really like to play Pikmin 4.
There’s actually two Switch emulators. Ryujinx is the other one. I’ve tried both and they’re both solid options.
I found that yuzu is more stable while Ryujinx is able to calculate uncached shaders a lot faster, which is great for playing Smash Ultimate, since I couldn’t get online shadercaches to work correctly. I overall prefer Ryujinx, but both are very solid.
They are up to 4 already‽ I mean I never really kept up with a game I started at the second entry and wasn’t particularly good at at the time but still…
Are you seriously asking if a popular game series that first came out over twenty years is “up to 4 already”?
What world are you living in?
How’s Half-Life doing?
or Metroid Prime 4 even lol
Original switch version by Bandai Namco was likely cancelled and retro are working on switch 2 version
Damn. I walked right into that one lol
Yep all you need to do is find a copy of the firmware (you actually can get the latest firmware from the internet archive) and the decryption keys (they’re a little bit more difficult to find, can’t remember where I got them from, but it took a long time for me to find a working download)
I never figured this out. When I play switch games it’s always a version that bundles the emulator with it and has all the keys and bios crap already configured.
There are tons of sites that host switch firmware and “prod keys” for it as well. You need the keys for playing games on the switch natively as well.
Or just download a FitGirl repack of any Switch game and you don’t have to worry about any firmware/decryption nonsense. Just install and play.
I’ve wondered about those. Don’t they get outdated as the emulators become more developed? I’m assuming it’s packed with whichever version was the latest stable release at the time.
Yes but you can always just update the emulator yourself. If you’re playing the latest games then you’re usually using a more up-to-date version anyway.
The keys I found were on a website linked from a website posted to a Reddit sub. And they were base64 encoded for obscurity
For the future and anyone else who reads this:
Thank you!
You might also ask nicely for folks to send you theirs. Especially since Nintendo is going after Yuzu, I’m sure there’s plenty of folks that would volunteer keys via DM just to stick it to Nintendo…
How do you do this? Just fork it? I don’t know much about GitHub (and alternatives)
Imported it from github into my own Forgejo instance
At least you’re from the country where DMCA abuse can’t apply.
Don’t just fork it, otherwise if they take down the original repo, your fork will also go down.
Download a full copy of the repo and host it yourself (on your GitHub account or GitLab, Bitbucket, etc.).
Mirrored it on Codeberg too
Fuck Nintendo!
Damn so now they gotta rename the emulator something different. Nah fuck Nintendo.
That is a pretty good name!
Did you get the new NFN release? LOL NFN
Nintendo is basically saying that they are guilty of enabling piracy.
That same argument would paint gun makers as guilty of enabling murder and crime. Nintendo should really be going after rom sharing sites. That’s totally legit, but not the emulation devs.
If they have a fund for legal costs I’ll donate.
Nintendo should sue Microsoft for providing an operating system that people use to pirate digital goods. Maybe IBM too for creating the mouse to lower the barrier to piracy?
That same argument would paint gun makers as guilty of enabling murder and crime.
You’d be correct of the law were logical, but it is not. Check this out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes
They made certain fucking numbers against the law?!
“18”
“You’re going to jail, motherfucker”
Good luck to those out of touch wankers.
Time to clone the repo and start seeding it
I started 30 minute backups earlier. It updates from the yuzu repo and downloads all of the releases from yuzu-mainline if there are new ones. Anything else I should also backup?
I wouldn’t have a clue where to put this stuff on the interwebs, but if shit happens, I will be 1 of many backups I guess.
I’ll hold on to those files for safekeeping for you :)
Forked and cloned locally.
I never really wanted to pay any Switch games in general, but any one got a good source for roms?
Go to your favorite torrent site and search there.
I’ve heard good things about nsw2u’s Google Drive links, but you have to use an adblocker…
If you’re worried, torrenting might be a better option
Why don’t they sue PC manufacturers for producing the hardware that led to the emulator?
Why don’t people sue gun manufacturers every time somebody is murdered? Or vehicle manufacturers each time an accident happens?
Suing Yuzu for piracy seems incredibly fucking stupid and nonsensical, but I’m sure the Neanderthals in the courtroom will side with Nintendo.
Why don’t people sue gun manufacturers every time somebody is murdered?
Because gun makers lobbied congress to make it specifically illegal to do so. Even though unscrupulous practices by said gun lobby is responsible for probably hundreds of thousands of needless deaths.
Or vehicle manufacturers each time an accident happens?
They get sued for accidents caused by defects quite often.
Why don’t they sue PC manufacturers for producing the hardware that led to the emulator?
This one is perfectly analogous to the Nintendo tomfoolery, though.
Suing Yuzu for piracy seems incredibly fucking stupid and nonsensical, but I’m sure the Neanderthals in the courtroom will side with Nintendo.
Happened with Mega and countless torrent sites so yeah, you’re probably right 😮💨
Why don’t they sue PC manufacturers for producing the hardware that led to the emulator?
This one is perfectly analogous to the Nintendo tomfoolery, though.
Not really. PCs aren’t purpose build to run emulators, these emulators just happen to also work on them.
Emulators on the other hand are purpose build to circumvent anti piracy measures (which is illegal even for your own use), even if piracy may not be their primary intention.
Emulators on the other hand are purpose build to circumvent anti piracy measures
No, emulators are purpose built to allow you to play a game on another platform. That’s literally what they’re for.
Whether the game is legally purchased, pirated, shareware or abandonware is completely irrelevant to the purpose and function of an emulator.
Personally I have used emulators to play old Commodore 64/Amiga games from my childhood, ditto DOS games and one of the old Pokémon games to see what the fuss was about.
None of those games were available for purchase anywhere aka it was all abandonware and not piracy. I do my piracy with torrents of games meant for the PC like most people.
Btw, as someone pointed out elsewhere on this post, there’s another good reason to use an emulator even for games available to purchase for the intended system: expensive peripherals that break and can’t be fixed. Unlike some vastly superior ones made for playing on the PC.
In other news, I got a DMCA email from Xfinity today. Might or might not be able a Nintendo switch game. 🤪
Get a VPN!
Nintendo give an example in their complaint with The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom saying that it was “unlawfully distributed a week and a half before its release by Nintendo” and that copies of it were “successfully downloaded from pirate websites over one million times before the game was published and made available for lawful purchase by Nintendo”.
Back when I was on that shithole other link aggregation website, I said this would happen because people couldn’t wait 7 more days for the public release before bragging about emulating TotK and sharing a clearly-not-legally-dumped ROM around.
I don’t care what people do in their free time as long as it doesn’t affect anyone else negatively, but it was hard not to see this coming because people couldn’t keep their mouths shut and just enjoy the game. Now, we all might lose future updates to Yuzu if they settle or Nintendo wins the suit…
I’d prefer to use proprietary products but Nintendo have shit business practices and I hate them so Yuzu it is always and forever
PSF (Proprietary Software Foundation)
i prefer to use proprietary products
Yeah I would prefer to pay Nintendo for their research development and experience. But it’s all gimmicky shit and poor anti consumer business practices.
Meanwhile Ryujinx
Do they have a patreon? I think part of Nintendo’s extermination policy is “if you try to make money from it, it’s lost revenue, and we will murder you.” For example dolphin has been around forever, but always open source and without a patreon or the like
EDIT:
Answered my own question
RIP
Just speculation, but there must be a reason why they target Yuzu but not Ryujinx. Maybe because Ryujinx is open source and there is nothing illegal in the code?
Edit: A word.
But yuzu is open source as well: https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu
My guess is they are just tackling one thing at a time, and ryujinx is next on their chopping block. It’s entirely possible they’ve already sent cease and desist notices to to ryujinx
If Yuzu is open source why is the public version way behind the patreon one? Legit question, this must be why it’s a prime target since Ryujinx doesn’t do that, there’s only one version.
Because on their argument, that is “paywalled” until it becomes public.
Can the paywalled version be found hosted anywhere? I’m expecting Yuzu to get scrubbed from most of the Internet very soon, so I want to grab the latest stable release.
Yuzu pineapple apparently.
Nintendo’s argument in the filing is that Yuzu is designed primarily for circumventing the Switch’s encryption (a.k.a. copyright protection measures). Their justification is that Yuzu uses
prod.keysto decrypt various things like the ROM filesystems and the system firmware*. Ryujinx also usesprod.keys, so they would be just as legitimate of a target for that argument as Yuzu is.Personally, I think they chose to go after Yuzu first because it’s more popular and runs at playable framerates on modern Android devices. If the lawsuit goes in Nintendo’s favor, I guarantee they’ll immediately use that precident to make the same argument against and swiftly kill Ryujinx.
*This is actually a valid argument that is not affected by past suits like Bleem v. Sony.
I had no idea such a thing existed. I don’t usually buy Nintendo stuff, but if this is free I’ll probably give it a try
