Rightio.
They didn’t even condemn Hamas that’s a hate crime.
They forgot the disclaimer:
Why doesn’t my embed animate? It’s converted to *webm upon upload?
still image link if webm doesn’t work for youIt doesn’t work for me. Have you tried removing the French language pack?
Pourquoi?
Spicy af
Is this bait? It sure feels like bait.
I think they have real estate in the occupied Palestine? Every dead palestine child = one apartment more for them? Yes they think in 30 year circles.
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Thankfully, here, hate comments by the creator are also deleted. Zat is honorable, so I address it as well. Everyone with property should think in 30-year cycles. So here as well. That’s how colonialism works. You take the land for free. And that creates value for you. I became skeptical soon after the Gaza Strip was sealed off. None from the IDF went in. Instead, sealing off and while the bombs fell for weeks: parties, selfies. Who paid for the bombs? Wasn’t the hostage situation urgent? Also, pay attention: starvation is much worse. Especially for the children. Lasting damage. If the Palestinians are now displaced. Who will bear the cost for them? Do some research yourself. Then it’s like a slap in the face, what’s going on here.
Antisemitism to Palestinian support is like misandry to feminism. Yeah, some people might be guilty of it (and those who are, misunderstand the latter ideologies), but it’s way overrepresented in opposing media, who is often guilty of such issues itself.
Also “Stop Killing Children” or “Demand a Ceasefire Now” aren’t “pro-Palestinian” messages, they’re anti-killing messages.
Just because the children being killed happen to be Palestinian doesn’t make that a pro-Palestinian message. It can be a general message that is applicable to whoever’s children happen to be getting killed right now.
If someone says “stop the attacks on civilians now”, how do you even know if they’re talking about Gaza, Ukraine or both?
I’d argue that if they put up a Palestinian flag, it’s clear that Palestine is being referred to.
In principle, though, I agree with your first point
Sure, they’re referring to Palestine in this case. But, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re fully “pro-Palestine”. They’re undoubtedly pro Palestinian kids. But, that doesn’t mean that they side with Palestine over Israel in the general case.
Well they should… If You or they know the history of Israel
Aren’t Palestinians a semitic people?
That’s an invalid (strikethrough: dictionary) etymology argument, and you know it. To clarify, when I said “antisemitism” I meant “a discriminatory attitude towards Jews” or something along those lines.
Edit: this is an etymology argument, not a dictionary one; most dictionaries probably agree with me. I don’t know how or why the word
antisemitismcame to be used to refer to Jews specifically, but surely it’s been this way for most of its history.
Either way, the most authoritative meaning of a word is that which was intended by the one who uttered it.Nice comeback and so civil as well. I wish I could do that.
But you didn’t utter it, you typed it.
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Yes but anti-semitism has been co-opted to apply only to Jews (erasure of millions of other semitic people, that is, people who speak a semitic language other than Hebrew) just like the Holocaust has come to mean only the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide, which is erasure of the 5 million other victims in the various groups that were killed by Nazis.
When you plaster this shit on Jewish-owned businesses ya that’s anti semitic.
Jews≠Israel so boycotting and blaming Jewish owned businesses because you’re angry at what Israel is doing is antisemitic. Jews are not a monolith. This is like targeting Chinese owned businesess with COVID conspiracies.
Y’all reactionaries are honestly just as dumb as MAGAts.
What makes you think it’s plastered onto the business and not put up by the business-owners themselves?
…which is by far the most-logical conclusion?
Because this is Prochem Pharmacy in Avondale, Auckland. It’s a Jewish-owned pharmacy. The Jewish community in Auckland is small and tight-knit. Y’all chomping at the bit to direct your hate at the Jewish community and using Israel as an excuse. No different from MAGA.
Dude, can you at least do a bit of research first before clutching your pearls?
Ha ha ha ha a least they sell burn cream 😂
Ooof, burn 🔥
@PerogiBoi, we are awaiting your response.
Now they’re hacking social profiles too!
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Bet he won’t respond after this lol.
So proof that you have no idea what you’re talking about has been posted. Are you going to acknowledge it or just continue spreading anti-Palestine propaganda?
There can be Jews that are not Zionist? This business is Jewish owned, sure, but maybe they don’t support the genocide of children.
I would argue that the stance of “Jewish people think it’s antisemitic to advocate for Palestinian civilians” is in fact actually antisemitic.
It’s put up from the inside… did the antisemites walk in, moved the blinds, taped the messages, then put the blinds back?
I’ve seem a case like this when I was rookie, crazy antisemite sneaked in, put his name on the lease and plastered the windows with propaganda. Sprinkle some crack and let’s get out of here
These antisemites are getting smarter everyday. They hid the poster from the owners themselves who are obviously supporting their country committing genocide as every Jew should.
What’s yours? Are you suggesting Jewish folks can’t stand against Israel?
Seems like you’re doing exactly what you’re accusing others of, here?
Y’all chomping at the bit to direct your hate at the Jewish community and using Israel as an excuse. No different from MAGA.
Ah yes, let’s put to paper that anyone who could oppose Israeli occupation and seige on ANY group of people are actually anti-Jew, and then paint those same people as far-right fascists.
That’ll win over people and influence them to your cause. Nice work.
Are you going to apologize for making such a blatantly false claim? Or nah?
Jews aren’t a monolith but they didn’t put it up themselves because “they’re tight-knit”
Thinking that all Jewish people support the Palestinian genocide is the actual anti-semite attitude.
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That means it’s a Jewish owned business, but doesn’t inform us whether or not the owners put up these signs (rather neatly).
To me, it looks like they’re on the inside of the glass. So that’s a pretty decent signal.
On a first sight it looks legit. I can’t find a website, but there is a “Prochem Pharmacy Avondale” facebook page. Since january 2022 it advertises products sold there, give aways and such. It could be that it does that longer and facebook just doesn’t show me all as a visitor without an account, not sure. The profile picture literally says “Free Palestine - End the occupation”.
It is indeed possible that that’s a big false flag effort, but so far I have no reason to belief that.
You sound like a pro-genocide jew.
There are plenty of anti-genocide jews.
You know jewish can also share the same sentiment right?
Right?
So it’s Jewish owned and you automatically assume that this never could have been put up by the owner because he’s Jewish and of course has to support Israel? That’s quite a bigoted conclusion of you.
I got a surprise for you, there’s quite a bit of Jews actively speaking out against Israel current bombings of civilians.
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Antisemitism = against jews, jews ≠ israel -> something against israel = antisemitism… whatever…
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Bro,
The signs are on the inside of the window.
He has written is some weird stream of consciousness stuff.
Is that what’s happening here though? I don’t have any context for this and there’s no obvious tell (that I could find) that the business is Jewish-owned and that it wasn’t put up by the owner, just looks like a small business taking an anti-genocide stance to me.
If the context is what you’re saying though, that’s fucked. Jews deserve blame for the actions of the extremists running the Israeli state the way Christians deserve blame for the actions of MAGA - these fascist groups don’t represent the religion or the people they’re just wearing it as a hat.
EDIT: To the reader: I should have read farther, another reply chain provides context that
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this is in fact a Jewish-owned business, and
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this specific Jewish-owned business has expressed a pro-Palestine stance on its Facebook account (specifically, its pfp is a palestine flag overlaid with a raised fist encircled by the words “Free Palestine End The Occupation”).
It seems very unlikely that this is a targeted act of hate, and PerogiBoi should be ashamed of themself for inventing a narrative out of whole cloth based on one factual detail and then proceeding to decry everyone else as “reactionary”.
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He ran away.
I think the message of this post is pretty clear: it refers to the simple fact that legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel is quite often and often quite deliberately dismissed as anti-Semitism. That is ridiculous. There is nothing anti-Semitic about criticizing a state for its criminal actions. What is even more ridiculous is the attempt to even try and silence Jews who criticize the state of Israel with crude concepts such as Jewish self-hatred. This is not about religion, but about the rejection of crimes against humanity, for which not a religious community but a sovereign state is responsible.
Zionism is antisemitic
Get this political crap outa here.
Only on Lemmy
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Why the fuck can’t we downvote in lemmy anymore is the real question?
Iirc lemmynsfw turn off downvoting to help with the mass downvote of gay porn/non-straight porn situation.
Thank you!
Uuuh we still can?
Maybe it’s my client? Can you downvote me?
It’s your instance. Those things are instance specific, and some instances disabled it for various reasons. I see upvote and downvotes separately and can do both without issues. You might want to have a non NSFW instance for non NSFW stuff, btw.
Thank you!
It depends on your instance.
Ah yes, murder, famously opposed by anti-semites
Calling opposition to genocide antisemitic is one of the most anti-semitic things one could do - it paints genocide as inherent to Judaism - a ludicrous position that is about the best reason one could find to justify exterminating the Jews.
if it’s not against jews, it’s just sparkling crimes against humanity
Did it come from the genocide region?
There are Jewish Muslims that live in Palestine. Would it not be antisemitic of Israel to a attack an area that houses Jews of any sect and faith?
Palestinians are semites. Judaism isn’t a race, it’s a religion.
Do you mean Jewish arabs? or Semitic Muslims maybe. Technically Semitic is a language group which includes arabic but like indo-european it can also refer to the people who originally used the dialect… bigotry fails at logic.
Jewish Muslims lol?
So I can be a Christian, Jewish , Muslim and a Buddhist all at one time ?
Yikes. I’ll stick to Atheism.
Cool, no one cares.
Judaism is a religion, not a race. Plenty of people of the race commonly associated with Judsism who aren’t Jews. Like your average Palestinian.
I think is way more antisemitic to try to relate the jewish people with that genocide
I don’t think anyone relates the Jewish people to that genocide, they relate the state of Israel to that genocide, because it does.
My understanding is that the person who originally called criticism of the Israel gov ‘antisemitism’ is the one equating Jewish people with the state of Israel
Clearly the Australian Jewish Association is relating Jewish people to genocide, otherwise they would not have called that statement by a shopkeeper in New Zeeland anti-semitic but would instead have said it to be anti-Israel.
They’re directly saying that being against this Genocide is being against Jews, which is most definitelly “relating Jewish people to that Genocide”
That’s the point they are making actually, that Jewish people that call for antisemitism in those cases like the Australian Jewish organization and tons of Israel supporters, by saying that being against genocide is antisemitic, they are saying that genocide is semitic, which is a very dangerous statement.
In my opinion, those that make such ludicrous statement are the antisemitic ones, for calling the Jewish religious group genocidal.
I’m guessing the claim is that saying “Israel is killing children” present a “false” narrative (presumably, false to them). Like you can imagine someone saying “Stop this man from killing puppies!” and it makes him look pretty bad even if he’s not a puppy killer.
What’s unfortunate is that instead of responding to “false” narratives by pointing out the falsehoods (“Actually all those bombed children’s hospitals were faked!” /s), instead this person just attacks the character of the person saying it. It’s basically name-calling or tone policing at best. I’m guessing because there’s no good argument in support of Netanyahu’s actions. Only zealots would support him.
They are killing children, it’s not a false narrative, it’s what’s happening. Palestine has a very young population, those casualties contain a very large percentage of underage people. They don’t have to bomb a children’s hospital to kill children.
I suggest you read my post again if you think I said anything to the contrary. I’m trying to understand this person’s fucked up logic.
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