The US will begin air dropping food aid to the people of Gaza, President Joe Biden announced on Friday, as the humanitarian crisis deepens and Israel continues to resist opening additional land crossings to allow more assistance into the war-torn strip.
Speaking in the Oval Office, Biden said the US would be “pulling out every stop” to get additional aid into Gaza, which has been under heavy bombardment by Israel since the October 7 Hamas terror attacks.
“Aid flowing to Gaza is nowhere nearly enough,” the US President said, noting “hundreds of trucks” should be entering the enclave.
Biden said the US is “going to insist that Israel facilitate more trucks and more routes to get more and more people the help they need, no excuses”.
He also noted the efforts to broker a deal to free the hostages and secure an “immediate ceasefire” that would allow additional aid in.
Crappy title. Especially since - https://www.npr.org/2024/02/20/1232636543/un-security-council-gaza-cease-fire-vote
Calls? Did he call Netanyahu and threaten him to withhold weapons? We’ve heard this one before. Time to start showing results.
Israel has two weeks to sign a letter that says “we won’t commit war crimes”? This is after the date israel said they are going to invade Rafah.
Furthermore israel has violated like 8 “red lines” Biden gave them and no consequences ever happened.
Israel didn’t even show up to the talks in Cairo today. Netanyahu isn’t feeling an ounce of pressure from Biden.
“war-torn strip”???
More like, “massacred and obliterated strip”. Not much of a “war” going on here
I’m a bit out of the loop. Did he stop funding Israel or is the USA helping both sides?
Congress controls the purse, they have been providing foreign aid to Israel since long before he was elected. Biden directs the armed forces, and is using them to supply aid to Gaza.
That said, the US has been ‘helping both sides’ for ages. We provide more money to Israel than any other country, and also contribute more to UNRWA than any other nation. The goal of the US has been to reach a two state solution, so it makes sense to fund both states.
Ah. Thank you.
Immediate but not permanent. Stop giving them bombs and ammo if you are sincere Joe. Oooooooh nooooes you’re not.
Also where does it say in the article that he calls for an immediate ceasefire besides the title ??It is all about dropping humanitarian aid, which in fact is to allow IDF continue the massacre. It is nowhere in other news outlets that he calls for a ceasefire. Also also also, I would expect he is the only one who could enforce it, rather than ask it. Nice distraction attempt. .
Anyway damage is done, good luck with Donut T fellow Americans. The not
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Because they will never get rid of Hamas, because maimed kids that lost their families are not hamas, but will be in 15 years. Because diplomacy towards a two state solution has more chances of bringing back the hostages. IDF are just killing them slowly as casualties right now
They haven’t sent them either of those things since last year. Only aide for Gazans recently.
If you were sincere in caring for gazans you’d be aware that when you say good luck with trump, you’re saying good luck with him to Palestinians, who will definitely suffer much worse under him. He will encourage bibi to finish them off. He’s very vocal about this.
Ohhh nooooos you’re not
Biden has been trying his very best this year to give israel 15 Billion in weapons as fast as possible.
Trump can’t do much worse than this Nazi style Genocide. If there’s still Palestinians left to Genocide after November that is.
There is always worse
If Biden doesn’t want worse he’ll have to do better.
Exactly how is a slow genocide any better than a quick one?
I am well aware of that thank you. But I am not able to show any satisfaction for Biden’s less than bare minimum action. It’s genocide we are talking about and his “call” for a ceasefire is a discussion with Italian PM that started with “we are trying to work out a deal that…”. Is that the best he can do?? Bibi’s gonna say fuck you again. I really don’t see where the enthusiasm for that “news” comes from
He’s taking the Michigan numbers seriously. Let’s hope it’s not too little too late.
If we can get a similar result in another swing state, we might see real progress
Insisting so hard he will send more weapons to israel?
Just had to wait for there to be 30,000 Palestinian deaths first.
9/11 had 2,996 deaths for a little bit of context. Just imagine what would be happening right now if there were 30,000 dead Americans.
Empirically: a pandemic. :(
America has 9/11s of covid deaths monthly, long after Biden “ended covid” with Trump’s strategy of “just stop reporting the numbers”. That’s what our journalists also do with all of the people murdered by Israel. Keep them out of sight, out of mind.
To be fair, it is medically hard to determine whether elderly people die with covid or from it.
I’m sure that it is, but it’s not just elderly dying, plenty of kids and their parents are suffering. I just read a NPR puff piece about a landlord who finally got their investment property ‘back’ by evicting their tenant… a recently widowed healthcare worker with a child. It’s almost like we shouldn’t be trying to just return to ‘normal’ with an uncontrolled pandemic raging.
As many people die from covid as do from influenza or RSV at this point. I’m not saying it’s not a serious illness but I am saying it’s very far from “an uncontrolled pandemic” and saying it is is hyperbolic to the point of disregarding any other point you made.
As many people die from covid as do from influenza or RSV at this point.
I understand you don’t feel affected by covid anymore, but you’re incredibly wrong.
CDC estimates for influenza deaths in the 2022-2023 flu season: 21,000
CDC cumulative covid deaths from Sep 9, 2023 minus Oct 1, 2022: 84,560
Honestly, I’m not seeing a death count for RSV, but based on this RSV Burden Estimates, it’s at most: 10,300 per year.
And this is all shown pretty well in the Trends in Viral Respiratory Deaths in the United States graph.
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Not denying covid is more deadly than influenza or RSV, but you still have to account for the fact that covid might kill an old person that would otherwise die to influenza in a month or two (or something else, they are old and their bodies are degrading inevitably). That is why sustained increased death rates in corrolation to covid numbers is a better qualifier for the argument that we have to take precautions to limit people dying. I have been of the understanding that after the major initial waves, death rates are not higher than usual and hence unsustained.
Even if I ignore you moving the goalposts, would you really look at a graph like this
that’s a few years out of date and assume the total deaths settled back down into the old pattern?
I’m not finding a more up-to-date data source for deaths per month, but it’s not like you’re providing any kind of data that covid isn’t still killing a lot of extra people per year.
We’ve given up on all testing, masking, vaccination and even quarantining at this point. 9/11s of people are dying monthly from all manner of respiratory diseases (after getting wrecked by covid). What exactly would uncontrolled look like to you then?
Uncontrolled would be the very start of the pandemic, with neither masking nor immune people. It’s not a wildfire any more, not even in the US with their proclivity to shoot themselves in the foot. It’s better controlled than influenza simply because more people got shots against it.
That’s all I’m saying. Yes it’s a dangerous illness, but ERs aren’t overwhelmed by patients like they were late 2020. I think part of the issue is semantics and a lot of people not realizing just how dangerous full-on influenza is, it’s absolutely a deadly virus and 10s of thousands of people die from it every year right here in the first world; much less in the 3rd world.
edit: get mad about it but I guess you don’t remember lockdowns and toilet paper shortages. I never got to work from home (medical-related field yay), I know exactly what uncontrolled looks like. If you want to panic about something start reading into microplastics, way more long term damage we’re only beginning to understand. Plastics are everywhere.
It’s sometimes hard to say an individual death was for sure caused by COVID, but it’s easy to compare the number of deaths to the historical average and see how many more happened. It’s really the only way to get a good count of COVID related deaths, because looking at excess deaths will also reveal how many people are being killed indirectly, such as dying due to lack of medical care because COVID was overwhelming the hospitals.
I agree with you and actually argued for this further down some comment chain. However, mortality increase was temporary in Norway where I am from (and AFAIK mostwhere in Europe), hence indicate that there is no uncontrolled pandemic here.
Here is an infographic from the start of 2023:
You should probably be looking at trends over a longer period of time, rather than just a single month.
From here. There was a dip below the 2016-2019 average in January through March of 2023, but time marches on.
Well, this is what is happening right now because there were 1319 dead Israelis.
Uno Reverse: the actual genocidal and apartheid party operating in Israel was always Hamas! ✅
But what Israel did to Gazans is just as bad as a thousand October 7th.
Be right back, getting popcorn.
They waited and will wait until the goal is achieved which is destroying gaza and drive as many palestinians away so that israel can extend its state.
Theyve returned the hostages right? Did we forget about the hostages?
How many non-Americans died as a result of 9/11? How many in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries in the global war on terror? I’m guessing a shit ton more than 30,000.
It’s only going to increase every day the hostages aren’t returned.
Like a million just in Iraq I think.
Lol no. Most studies are in the 250,000 to 500,000 range and include deaths because of coalition forces, the civil war (“sectarian violence”), and AQ.
This is also over a much larger population, time period, and area.
Bunch of children died due to a reduction in quality of diet, healthcare, education. A lot of it was sanction related. Believe it or not, didn’t pull the number out of my arse.
So you’re using the study that adds in assumed deaths in the ten years before the Iraq war as a misleading figure for the Iraq war. Just so we’re clear that isn’t an apples to apples comparison. Unless you want to put the work in to check those numbers for Gaza since the mid 2000’s when Israel began it’s blockade.
But that would require acknowledging the last 15 to 20 years of Israeli fuckery. So instead you went and found the biggest possible number to tag the US with as some kind of perverse shield for Israeli war crimes.
God, people on Lemmy are weird.
What a stunning fucking number, it isn’t just murder on a mass scale, it is the denial of an entire future reality for a country because of the massive empty spaces all that destruction and death cause.
Jesus you people are never happy.
Biden gave material support to Israel’s genocidal campaign which has killed over 30,000 people. You’re delusional if you think paying lip service to a ceasefire while still actively supporting the genocide is going to satisfy anyone.
I know this is way later than I or anyone whose been screaming for ceasefire wished for, but I’m so glad something has changed. I hope this is the just a start.
In all likelihood, Biden is starting to pay lip service to the call for a ceasefire as the people around him realize his support for Israel’s genocide may hurt his chances of reelection. I’m not holding my breath for him to actually do anything about it. Words are cheap.
Dont get hopes up, its a a stunt for reelection
Almost everything any politician does is because they think it will help them get reelected. That doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do.
That just means to me that they dont really care about what people wants until they need people. Thats very hypocritical honestly.
Welcome to politics.
calling for a ceasefire when it matters the most: before the elections. good job Biden.
This made me laugh through my nasal passages because I read it in the sarcastic tone I would’ve delivered it in.
when he realizes he is probably going to lose the election because a lot of his former voters don’t support genocide as much as he does
Sucks because Trump is going to stay behind Isreal too. The people that refuse to vote for Biden because of this likely just won’t vote. Which = Trump.
And again we’ll blame it on the voters that failed to “fall in line” instead of the establishment that gave them no reason to.
Gives a whole new meaning to “vote or die”.
When those same former voters watch Israel murder every Palestinian while Trump actively cheers them on and rounds up all Palestinian Americans to deport them for further ethnic cleansing.
2024 where the harm reduction vote goes to whoever supports genocide less fervently. Thanks DNC!
It isn’t the dnc’s fault a third of the country is apparently fascist these days. Nothing moves left until the ultra right is thoroughly defeated and sent back to the shadows.
Yes it is. The Democrats have had plenty of opportunities to step away from their pro-corporate stance and start doing things to help people. Every single time they cave to Republican pressure in the name of “bipartisanship”. Look at the border policy they just proposed that was everything that Republicans wanted. Democrats will give the whole game away just to keep that sweet sweet donor money coming in.
“Republicans are worse” is a shitty argument when Democrats already give them everything they want.
In fact the Democrats LOVE the far right because they can just point to them and go “well you don’t want THOSE guys in charge do you?”, while doing absolutely nothing to help the populace who are suffering under greedflation.
Bullshit. They can absolutely move left and pick up all the voters they left behind over the decades.
There are nowhere near enough left behind voters to make up for one’s they’d lose. We have to marginalized the ultra right first.
So we have to keep moving right to marginalize the right? We keep running party propaganda further to the right, and expect that makes less people vote to the right?
That’s the most insane shit I’ve heard all day.
Right and at this rate the Democrat will be doing that in 2028 while telling us it’s okay, we can still vote and the other guy is worse!
Harm reduction only works so long as there is remediation between elections. Just ratcheting shit further to the right and telling everyone they have to vote for you because you’re still not as far right as the other guy isn’t a scenario I want to participate in. If they want my vote the least they can do is not be worse than GW Bush.
If you think Biden is no better than GWB then I don’t even know what to say. You’re living on a different planet.
I mean, it’s pretty hard to make an argument that Trump would be materially worse for Palestinians than Biden if both are going to defund UNRWA and give Israel military aid. What Biden is doing now is definitely a step in the right direction; I hope he keeps this up, even when the Republicans inevitably say he’s being, “soft on terrorism,” (or whatever the talking point becomes).
Didn’t the US just recently block another UN resolution calling for a ceasefire?
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Cool, cool. Are we still supplying weapons to Israel? Give the weapons to Ukraine and tell Israel that’s enough genocide for now.
Didn’t he claim he will airdrop humanitarian aid in Ukraine.
Damn you guys behind the pond should introduce a law setting the max age a person can hold a presidential position. There is a reason why old people are not given a driver’s license and you should take the cue and do something about it.
Oh we let old people drive too, there’s not really any tangible system for ensuring they’re still capable. There’s a way your doctor can have it pulled but healthcare is privatized so they’ll just shop around for the guy who’ll say it’s totally fine if they have to.
My ex’s mom randomly passed out completely multiple times a day sometimes, it never got pulled - until some innocent pedestrian paid the ultimate price for eagle fuckin American “freedom.”
We’re trying but we’re up against hateful shitty old fucks who have a deathgrip on positions of power, absolutely stupid masses who enjoy a steady diet of warped theocratic leadership mixed in with batshit conspiracy, an alarming growing group of outright fascist af young people, and then a rather large contingent of apathetic cunts who can’t be bothered with doing the bare minimum in civic duties. It’s a fucking mess here. Not looking great.
I don’t disagree with you but at least along the issue of Gaza, young people are OVERWHELMING on the side of reason and that is heartening even while it is heartbreaking to see it doesn’t fucking move the needle on Biden’s actions even a nanometer.
It seems to be moving his actions somewhat. He’s calling for a ceasefire and airdropping aid to Gaza. I feel like a lot of that is due to pressure from constituents.
Gotta wonder if he’d care if it weren’t election season, though. After his whole four year term he finally got around to wiping my student debt a week ago. I know that was election driven.
Yeah kinda feels like he is airdropping hotdogs into a baseball stadium though, like, ok those people needed hot dogs but what about the whole hot dog distributing apparatus that is surrounding all those people with multiple concession stands distributed strategically throughout the stadium to minimize congestion and even people walking around who specialize in just distributing hot dogs. Kinda feels like you are beating around the bush buddy when you plan to airdrop hotdogs into the baseball stadium instead of just having all of those people and systems start giving people hotdogs who need them.
I hope the pressure keeps making him take concrete steps though.
He’s doing the thing where he calls a temporary pause a “ceasefire” with the only leverage getting handed over.,. So the genocidal ethnostate can continue the slaughter at its leasure.
Sounds like a shit deal.
So you’re supportive of kidnapping and using civilians as human shields? Cool.
Well they are only using human shields because Israel insists it’s still fine to fire up on them if maybe they take out a Hamas member with them.
Like, we shouldn’t actually be still killing the civilians right? That would be gross and fucked up right?
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Unhinged shit.
Yeah fucked up that Biden is enabling those genocidal settlers
Netanyahu won’t agree to a permanent ceasefire. The hope seems to be to get any sort of long pause then push to extend and extend it so it is de facto permanent (and hope Netanyahu gets kicked out of power somewhere in there).
The only leverage Hamas has is to keep being terrorists? No. Hamas can either surrender and give up or keep being bombed until they are gone. It is the only thing still killing people in Gaza at this point.
It must be so exhausting to carry water for a settler-colonial ethnostate whose very foundations are genocidal violence.
Not really. Israel didn’t build the terror tunnels under everyone’s houses and then tell everyone not to evacuate. Maybe your thinking of Hamas, and it’s regressive and religio-authoritarian genocidal violence?
You have zero understanding of cause and effect or you are looking at this conflict through a pinhole. Stop supporting and lapping up the propaganda of genocidal settler-colonialists like an useful idiot. Learn history and have some morals.
“Genocidal settler-colonialists” sounds like you’ve been lapping enough propoganda for the both of us.
I’m aware of the long history of two way violence. I’m aware that even if Israel stopped the violence now and forever, Hamas is still an ideology that exists as antithetical to democracy and peace. They’ll still be stoning people to death. They’ll still have zero elections. And whatever, that’s wildly popular in Gaza. But when they leave Gaza and start doing international terrorism, accepting money and weapons from Iran and North Korea, that’s not being very neighborly and I’m sorry but Hamas needs to go. They have no right to be terrorists. They can practice nok violent resistance if their lives are important to them. If not…
You’re not aware of the history because you choose not to
Sorry I spoke too soon on your post. Should have kept reading. Applaud the effort toward fairness.
Here’s a couple more for you;
Apartheid:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4343950
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41575857
Hamas Lawfare:
https://sites.duke.edu/lawfire/2023/10/15/five-ideas-to-counter-hamas-lawfare-strategy-and-why/
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/213546-asymmetries-and-proportionalities/
https://lieber.westpoint.edu/attacking-hamas-part-i-context/
https://lieber.westpoint.edu/idf-hamas-duty-to-warn/
https://www.justsecurity.org/89489/expert-guidance-law-of-armed-conflict-in-the-israel-hamas-war/
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I will tell the repressed how to protest my oppression and they will be grateful for the chance for me to ignore them.
Man, yeah that always works out.
And maybe you’ve run the numbers to realize that those “terrors tunnels” would cost too much to be real. It’s a good excuse to ethnically cleanse a region you have no right to.
Ridiculous take. Even Hamas doesn’t deny they are real. Like gtfo with that conspiratorial nonsense that you pulled out of your ass.
Maybe you should watch the news before speaking. Maybe even a Google search. Then go away. Thanks.
Lol. Okay little kid.
Now tell your UN ambassador to reverse the veto in the security council so UN troops can actually do something about this.
Never going to happen. ✅
Too little, too late. Military intervention or nothing, Israel and Gaza need to be taken in by UN peacekeeping forces and a new dialogue needs to be started about how to find a permanent solution for the coexistence of Palestinians and Israelis. If the need exists, maybe even deconstruct the current Israel to make way for a more tolerant and democratic nation that respects people of all origin.
It’s about re-election optics, not about helping Gazans.
Ding ding ding!
They started seeing everyone posting on social media that they’re not voting to support us paying for a genocide.
Vote “uncommitted” in the primaries, all the centrists shaming progressives for having a red line at “genocide” are so desperately wrong about now being not the time to raise our voices, fuck them.
The only way to get Biden to care about the horrific mass slaughter of an entire population is to directly make him afraid he won’t get his power trip again if he doesn’t capitulate because it is blindly obvious nothing else will sway him until it’s farrrrrrrrr too late.
After the election is the worst time to do it, if Biden wins he will just completely ignore progressive/almost unanimous international outcry over Israel’s genocide and continue handwringing because why would he do otherwise given his ideology and the fact that he doesn’t need the votes anymore?
Doubt UN troops would help here. They’d either get swayed like UNRWA was or would get the same treatment as Israelis.
What is more plausible according to you:
- Hamas managed to sway UNRWA and pretty much all of the known humanitarian organisations operating in Gaza?
- Or that the situation on the ground is really dire and it was like this long before the 7th of October no matter what Israel is claiming.
And please feel free to send me any article of any non affiliated NGO or humanitarian organisation with Israel praising their efforts to achieve long lasting peace before the 7th of October.
Because I can easily do the opposite.
Our own intelligence agencies rated that as “low confidence”. Which is the Intel version of pressing F to doubt. It means they found nothing to support the allegations. Typically it’s followed by the briefer saying something like, “we do not recommend action on this item at this time.”
They absolutely need a 2-state solution.
And neither of the 2 states should be the current states of Israel or Palestine.
A 2 state solution is effectively impossible at this point. Israel won’t let their settlements go and the Palestinians will not accept anything less than the 1967 borders. There’s also the split country problem. Bangladesh used to be East Pakistan. Split countries have a bad habit of one part getting exploited pretty hard.
So what you’re saying is the problem with the 2-state solution is the 2 existing states that I specifically said shouldn’t be part of the solution?
You can’t just do a rebrand. These are thousand year old ethic identities. There has to be a structural change as well.
