Going to therapy might help and if it doesn’t, then at least you tried but if you think that therapy is for the weak, then you absolutely need to go for it.
For those who might already think they know what their issue is it still helps to go and recognize it too.
For me, I already knew I was my own worst enemy, and all of my depression stems from my own incompetence and failure. Talking didn’t help in that respect, failure is failure, but I least I know that it’s not a “chemical imbalance” thing after trying meds, it’s a “I hate being a joke of a human” thing lol
Did it help at all to have someone understand where you’re starting from and thus be able to congratulate you and give you praise for whatever small victories you had on your path to self improvement? I think therapists can be incredibly helpful when someone is trying to start from ground zero and just needs to hear a sincere “good job I am proud of you” for something as simple as passing up an opportunity to be an asshole.
For some people it might help, but for me it just felt silly to be praising simple “nonsense.” Thankfully I don’t have the issue of having to hold back from being a jerk unless it’s directed at myself, then I can be a gigantic raging asshole. It’s a big part of my “own worst enemy” issue lol
Thankfully I don’t have the issue of having to hold back from being a jerk unless it’s directed at myself
I like how you provided a perfect example of this earlier just prior in your comment. (Hope this comes off as a light hearted joke. If not I apologize in advance. :) )
but for me it just felt silly to be praising simple “nonsense.”
Why do you feel your own accomplishments, no matter how meager are “nonsense”?
No need to apologize! I appreciate the concern anyway lol
There are some things I consider to be so “bare minimum” that it’s just expected to be done. I’m imagining being congratulated for doing laundry or something, that’s something bare minimum that needs to be done. In my example it could just be not beating myself up over something I failed at, it’s not really something to praise it’s just something you’re supposed to do.
I do understand how hard it is for people with depression to want to do anything, or to change how they see themselves, but I just feel like a child for “getting a gold star” because I cleaned my apartment or something.
I’m sure it works for some people, but for me it felt condescending or something.
In my example it could just be not beating myself up over something I failed at, it’s not really something to praise it’s just something you’re supposed to do.
Why isn’t people doing what they’re supposed to do worthy of praise? Can you tell me about what things are worthy of praise? Have you dissected where the distinction lies between what is worthy of praise and what’s “just something you’re supposed to do”?
I read the above aloud to myself and I recognize it could potentially sound accusatory or disagreeable. I am not trying to change your mind here but I am curious about the underlying though process.
I guess I tend to see things as good, bad, or neutral and a lot of the “bare minimum” things fall into that neutral category. It’s not good or bad, it’s just what you’re supposed to do, kind of like going to work. It’s not worthy of praise that I went to work. I need money to live, they need labor, so I go to work and they pay me. It’s not good or bad. Sure there are ethics involved the deeper you go like “it’s bad to call out sick when you’re not sick” so going to work is “good” if juxtaposed to that, but I think you could spend an eternity breaking things down more and more like that lol
Worthy of praise would be more “difficult,” to keep with the work thing just doing my job isn’t worthy of praise, but accomplishing something “more,” maybe solving a problem or fixing something that’s not the standard for your job would be worthy of praise.
For those who might already think they know what their issue is it still helps to go and recognize it too.
To add to this, I learned from therapy that diagnosis is only the first step. There’s medication but also learning techniques that allow you to function in daily life.
Nothing screams wussy more than feeling a constant need to reinforce their own gender identity through toxic stereotypes.
Just be yourself and as long as you do no one harm stop caring what society think of you.
“never went to therapy”
Oh so that’s why he is the way that he is
Therapy or no,
we all agree Elon can
eat a bag of dicks.I would genuinely rather be myself and live paycheck to paycheck than be rich and have to be Elon Musk. Once you get over how infuriating he is, he’s just so deeply pathetic.
I agree. He may be fabulously wealthy, but he also has no real friends because he’s both loathsome and because people that rich don’t have friends. They have sycophants, people who can make use of them and people that are paid to pretend to like them.
Financially, things aren’t terrific, but I’ll also take that over being Elon.
It’s weak to have a problem and deny it. Toxic masculinity is a show of weakness not strength.
With pretty much everything in human behaviour, if a person makes a grand show about how they’re so <some human quality>, they’re almost certainly overcompensating because deep down they themselves don’t believe it.
Agree 100%. Sadly, we have people like Elon and Trump pushing toxic masculinity and so many men buy into it.
I went to therapy and it wasn’t very good. Expensive though!
I went to therapy and it was very good. Expensive though!
Seriously, price tag is one of the first barriers for more people to get help. It’s not alright to promote mental health and then make help unaffordable. That should be the first focus.
I went to therapy and it motivated me to get a better job so I could afford therapy
Good for you! (unironically)
But high price is still a giant barrier for entry, and a huge cost in general. Back when prices didn’t skyrocket further and cut me out, I was spending as much on an hourly session as I spend on my groceries - y’know, things to sustain the very living - in over a week.
And then you’ve gotta be lucky enough to find a fitting therapist in the first place. I’ve heard stories of people going from therapist to therapist, just trying to find the one that works for them. Spending money for basically nothing the entire time.
True
And especially true for more rare and/or stigmatized conditions. Quite a few therapists are straight up incompetent to deal with such issues.
As long as he’s dead he can have whatever he wants on his tombstone. I’ll try to trace the letters with my piss. It’ll be a fun game, and I’ll help to keep my hydrated.
do you actually do this sort of thing or are you all talk?
Internet.
FYI- Jason Kander dropped out of politics to seek help for his PTSD. He now works to house homeless vets and help Afghans fleeing the Taliban. He’s pretty badass IMO. https://martincitytelegraph.com/2024/02/18/whatever-happened-to-jason-kander-hes-been-operating-daring-rescues-overseas/
While he was in politics he also dropped some insanely good political ads. All around legend.
That may be the most American political ad I’ve ever seen.
Cool! I knew nothing about him. Thanks for the background!
Being more “manly” than Elon is a fairly low bar.
Bro has more gender confirming procedures then most trans women I’ve met.
Are you telling me Elongs hairline didn’t magically come back through sheer masculinity ?
If you have money you might be able to pay some therapist that you know and respect, but if you have cheap insurance, all your therapists will be young idiots who will be treating cigars a dicks…
I have a chip on my shoulder yes, my nephews therapist was an idiot
I hear you; I think nearly everyone who’s tried therapy has encountered one or more therapists that are a bad fit for them. I’ve certainly had my share of bad experiences. And obviously America’s health insurance industry—and for-profit health care in general—is inherently evil, and should be abolished. Nevertheless, there are a lot of good therapists out there, and many of them have a sliding payment scale. Many—if not most—people can reap major benefits from therapy, and it’s really worth it to push through the most difficult step: finding a provider that’s right for you. Sorry your nephew’s therapist sucked.
The more someone talks about how big their balls are, the smaller they are. It’s a universal truth
The most narcissistic people I have ever known in my life always refused to go to therapy. There is always a substitute whether it be zealotry or substance abuse. Knowing what I know about Elon, it’s hardly surprising to me that he never went to therapy.
people like this run the world, kinda frightening they’re not in therapy
Isn’t one of the very few pathways for an ASD diagnosis through a psychologist. (i.e. therapy)
The guy went on SNL and told everyone that he has Asperger’s Syndrome. So, he is either lying about that or never going to therapy.
He’s self-diagnosed. He also thinks it excuses all of his awful behavior.
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tbf a lot of quirky “neurodivergent” tweens online are also self diagnosed and use it to justify their own selfish/immature behavior
the only difference is that you’re supposed to be insufferable as an adolescent and you’re supposed to grow up and out of it, not be proud you’re in a perpetual state of arrested development well into middle age and beyond
