Good post
Lol ok.
This is getting to Y2K hype levels, and in a similar fashion, will not do anything.
I get Linux people like to fanboy/shit over Windows but surely you’re tech literate enough to realize this is making a mountain from a molehill.
Y2K was a big deal, but it was well funded and successfully dealt with. Wikipedia:
The total cost of the work done in preparation for Y2K likely surpassed US$300 billion…
Okay, but it’s still bad for the environment if nobody picks them up
Thats assuming that people are actually going to throw their computers in the trash when the OS reaches end of life.
Most people running these old machines probably won’t know or care.
They’ll definitely know. Microsoft’s last update for Windows 10 will make sure to add as many notices, popups and scary alerts as possible.
And as a result plenty will care, particularly those who aren’t tech savvy. If you’ve got relatives for whom you are their go-to IT person, be prepared.
That’s assuming they even read the message and don’t just close out of it instantly.
Them: “I keep getting an error message.” Me: “What’s it say.” Them: “I don’t remember.”
He’s got a point there⬆️
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I love me some cheap hardware to put Linux on it. It is a good feeling, plus less ewaste.
Windows 11 doing this is more ewaste not less. It’s more ewaste even if 100% of the existing stock gets reused because some (many?) of those computers will get replaced with new ones.
Exactly. Just bought a Dell with an i5 9500 for €200. That’ll be my new home server. I just hope more people get wise to how cheaply you can run a setup with a little bit of getting informed.
I foresee rise in selfhosted sector because of cheap hardware
Actually happen. An i5 with 4 cores + 8 GB Ram and a 256 GB SSD for something like 100 bucks. Years before we paid this for a raspberry.
If its a laptop, then it has a built-in UPS as well. Plus extra peripherals are not needed either!
What’s the best non win 11 pc we can go for?
Windows 10
That’s a waste because it will be EOL in a year
Unless you plan on upgrading it to Linux or W11/12
Do you have access to businesses upgrading computers or shutting down that division? They tend to have some interesting stuff for playing with on Linux.
Hmm not directly, but I might have some friends who do. Could be a very interesting one
People have tons of old computers laying around that they would be more than happy to get rid of if someone asked nicely.
In fact you may melt them down for precious metals and earn a profit, but that’s for strange people.
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You can get ARM builds of Linux. I have never tried them so can’t speak to how well they work on a phone.
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Is there a lot of benefit to running postmarketOS compared to rooted Android?
I’ve had some trouble with flashing an old Asus tablet in that all the old images/info are basically dead links. But that is mostly just your average link rot.
I figured compiling a custom ROM was more trouble than it’s worth but if the main branch is actively maintained maybe less so.
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For anyone who is interested, I keep my eye on Pine for this sort of thing.
Interesting. For the Nokia N900 there is Maemo Leste which also uses mainline Linux (+ a few patches they are working to mainline) and there everything works. Mind that works means in this case: Does what I want if I issue a number of console commands. However most of it by now even works via the GUI.
Keep in mind that Leste is a project by a few enthusiasts and writing drivers for undocumented hardware is a monumental task, writing GUI for a whole mobile OS is also complicated. So it is utterly astonishing, how far they got!
Homelab go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Still rocking my Amiga 500 and Performa 450. Post your old junk:
Won’t using an activation-script to get an enterprise licence be able to delay that?
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*Surp used: Crying!
It hurt itself in the confusion…
me and the boys gaming with new to us 7700k’s in 2026
All I see is more Linux Servers and PCs to try Arch and Gentoo on over my Fedora desktop that I use because I need a good balance of stability and up to date software
People are still running Win7 without pause. Don’t kid yourself!
Not much since Steam dropped support >.<
„No update? So no more forced restart? Neat“
No more forced junk and changes I have to undo? My computer can stay the exact way I like it for a long period of time without Microsoft fucking it up? Sounds like a dream.
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Anyone else remember Meltdown and Spectre 2018?
My dad’s friend was still running a 486 until last year. It did his spreadsheet.
On Lotus 1-2-3?
Holy shit, nostalgia
They don’t make nostalgia like they used to.
Its subscription based now
generally computers won’t stop doing things they were already capable of doing. tons of machines and businesses may rely on older hardware and software to complete specific tasks.
but yeah, a 486 is pretty past its prime, and the task could have been accomplished on something far more modern.
Windows 7 is the only good version since XP, not even joking.
I agree with you bit 10 was still usable. When 11 hit and I saw the future, I abandoned dual boot.
This is a meme about enterprise equipment lifecycles.
Huge corporate entities with machine inventory counts in the hundreds of thousands aren’t going to give a shit about trying to upcycle old hardware - they just want it to not be their problem anymore.
I predict there will be a few companies that pop up to refurbish the hardware and sell it as a thin client solution. Places like call centers live on refurb equipment and are moving to a vdi infrastructure.
Thin client for windows 12 🧠
W11 and anything after it simply does not support any intel cpu before 10th gen, or (with a handful of exceptions) any AMD cpu before the 3000 series.
Edit: serious question: are W12 thin clients allowed to not have a TPM module? Or does that not actually matter for a thin client? I had assumed all machines involved had to have that capability, be it host or client.
E2: clearly I need to learn more about thin clients and related infra
🤔 I’m going out on a limb here and assuming you don’t know what a thin client is and that there are rumors windows 12 will be a cloud product?
If you knew that already though, then I’m puzzled by your comment.
A thin client is basically like a smart TV.
It might have some basic apps on it, but it’s main purpose is to remotely connect to either a storefront or desktop environment that’s being provided by some sort of VDI infrastructure. The OS can easily be a stripped down Linux image.
This is beneficial for businesses because you only have to upgrade your servers instead of hundreds or thousands of desktops.
It’s also beneficial from a security standpoint because you can deliver only what’s needed for the job.
Source: I built and maintained a Citrix VDI environment for a multinational company. We mostly used Zero clients, which were basically Pis that could log into Citrix, but we had some departments that had to use thin clients for various reasons.
Yeah Win7 is still good in comparison to win 11
Steam discontinued Win 7 and they told everyone linux would be next, but then why? Linux is up to date
edit: they* i mean Windows 7 users with it, sorry for the confusion!
Win7 might have been a good OS, but it no longer is unless it never touches the internet.
Yeah, i know just because of the security vulnerabilities, but it was for a long time better OS than windows 10 or 11, and because of that i switched to linux,
they told everyone linux would be next
what?
Yeah windows 7 “elitist”, i saw some steam discussions about it. But it was just hot air, that they just bloated up.
I’m sure some releases have become unsupported. The nature of Linux distros makes it a bit harder to define exactly which ones, even harder is you consider flatpak and snaps.
I would be surprised if any of the big ones released at the time Windows 7 was released is not supported. If course there’s no gatekeeping on the upgrades that I’m aware of (in general at least)
I know a few orgs that still use XP.
Hospitals, for example. Banks and the IRS still emulate IBM mainframes running COBOL.
But those aren’t affected usually. For them it’s about stability because their certification processes are a lot of work and they won’t risk any interruptions unless absolutely necessary. So they actually pay a lot of money for support beyond the normal EOL.
the organizations I know personally, don’t have those kinds of resources. They use XP because they rely on software that hasnt been ported to the new enviroments since forever, and it doesn’t work on the new versions of windows. (or works poorly). plenty of places have old propriety licenses that they’ve never upgraded to new versions of software because it still works for their needs.
CNC machining, doctor’s offices. Tax lawyers. bakery shops running acocunting software. farmers. You’ll find it in lots of industries.
