Fuck corporations but I don’t believe this for a second. People are just making this shit up now. Some dude scribbles some prices on a piece of paper and this whole website loses its mind.
This is testable. Go to the grocery store. Buy staple goods. Keep receipt. Buy the same products the next week.
Why not post with the receipts instead of marker?
I was going to say… who the fuck was paying $1.06/can for Coke to begin with? Hell, I saw one of those 32oz Big Gulp cups selling for $4 less than a week ago.
This all just looks made up and hysterical, because Americans cannot handle not having their sugary treats.
500 mL,1 L, and 2 L of Coke all cost $3 here.
which is how they get you to drink MORE coke
Not from the US, Coke was always around 1.05 - 1.20 USD where I lived in the early 2010s. Haven’t been drinking too much of it since then so IDK. But Coke is irrationally cheap in the US apparently. Or it’s just the old before/after taxes shenanigans again?
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Drinking a Coke in 5 years:
I saw one of those thin cans the other day and thought, “that’s a weird can shape, I don’t know why someone would buy that.”
Now it makes sense.
Edit: Also, I forgot about this- https://moneynotmoney.com/historical-price-of-coca-cola-in-united-states/
One advantage of the tall narrow 12oz cans is they take up less horizontal space in the refrigerator
One disadvantage is that they’re harder to stack
Another advantage is that they take up less horizontal space in the refrigerator.
Sure, but one disadvantage is they’re harder to stack.
Another disadvantage is they tip more easily if set down on an uneven surface or whacked by the dog’s tail
Interesting website.
They don’t fit in my mini fridge like normal cans do either
The biggest absolute price decrease in the price of 2 liters of coca-cola was in 2015, when the price dropped by $-1.79, or -100%.
Coke was free in 2015? Or is there a script filing is these paragraphs and it’s counting missed data points as zero?
It dropped by -1.79 which means it became 1.79 more expensive.
AI is amazing lol
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Worked for Virginia Slims and other brands.
Remember the connotation was slim cigarette, slim figure. I imagine the same psychological trick is at play with the slim can.
Several years ago mountain dew had the following prices
20 oz - $2
1 liter - $2
2 liter - $2
1.5 liter - $1
It wasn’t a sale, they had these prices on several stores for over a year.
These units hurt me. For others with the same pain 20 oz is a bit over 1/2 a liter
Honestly kinda based
Soda costs pennies, the plastic container is the bulk of the cost, and not much changes in plastic quantity between container sizes
And the marketing, the ceo’s bonus, logistics…
Weird, looks the CEO’s bonus is worth 1000 marketing and logistics guys.
Also, it turns out worker compensation and materials were already included in the cost of production.
Prices are, and should be, based on value not cost.
This toxic garbage has negative value. They should be paying me to drink this poison.
You say, based on jack fucking shit
A 12oz can was around $0.28 (when you buy a case). Today you’re lucky if you can pay $0.45.
I’ve had the best luck with Dollar General for affordable drinks. You have to wait for a decent sale and stock up though, and use coupons when available.
For example: recently for Dr Pepper they had two 12-packs for $14, but you could buy three for $15 and there was a coupon for $2 off when buying three, making it $13 for three 12-packs. So you would pay a dollar less for 36 cans than you would for 24. Comes out to about $0.36 per can.
Yeah, they’re happy to offer lower prices for people who are willing to climb barriers. It’s just a way of doing tiered pricing.
You know how many smokers have/had their hard line on what price would make them quit smoking? For me (a 52yo woman) that was when pop breached $5.99 a 24 pack case. I would buy it again occasionally if sale prices dipped into that range, but having crossed that line it broke my habit. The thought of $7 for a 12 pack is just painful.
Yeah, that’s fair. I haven’t stopped drinking it, but I’m reducing how much I drink as prices increase.
20oz are more expensive per volume because they sell faster. There’s less of a demand for larger sizes typically go flat too fast for people unless they’re having a party or something, and even in that case they don’t have the convenience of being able to drink from the bottle.
Do you leave your soda uncapped or something? I buy almost exclusively 2 liter bottles and they very rarely go flat on me. I’ll drink one over the course of about 4 days.
No. I never had any issues with larger soda bottles. I would usually buy the 1 or 1.5 liter bottles because they were usually the best deal.
I did some sales work for one of the local soda distributors, and it was crazy how much better the 20oz bottles did in comparison to everything else.
It was the same with energy drinks. Most people would buy single cans for $3 when they could get a 4 pack for $10 or a 12 pack for $20.
We would usually just open the 12 packs at our accounts because the singles simply sold better.
The 1.5 liter for 2 bucks got me through college lmao
When I was in college a gas station a block from me would do incredible deals on soda 12 packs abouth once a month. Like buy one get two free. We’d stock a full month’s worth every time and basically have a soda mountain for people to rummage through
Y’all, remember this is sugar water and even at $1.06 there’s a significant profit margin.
Yeah, it certainly doesn’t seem like their production costs would increase much from inflation…
They don’t increase from inflation. The price increase is inflation and I think it’s an important distinction to make.
Is not even sugar water, it’s corn tea with artificial flavors and colors.
Depends on the country. Corn syrup in everything is a distinctly American phenomenon
If you look at the picture you might be able to tell where it was taken. There are some pretty good hints.
They’ll switch back to the normal can soon enough…with the raised price, so they can do it again…
The great thing is you don’t need it.
Better off without it
Maybe you want to have a cup of tea instead? Way more cheap and healthy. Or buy some off-brand soda. It is just as much garbage as coca cola but at least it’s cheap.
Or just water.
Yes, of course. Preferably tap water.
In America? Maybe not the best idea. Especially if you’re in, say, Jackson, Mississippi.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/in-jackson-the-tap-water-is-back-but-the-crisis-remains
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I’m pretty sure that wasn’t my point what with my link being about tap water. The thing the person I was replying to was talking about.
What? No no no. Clearly soda is the healthy option. You can never be too cautious.
Got it. You’re totally ignoring my point that water straight from the tap is too unsafe to drink in multiple U.S. municipalities and are just trolling. Have fun with that.
Ok, in some places you might want one of those bubblers at home, I guess.
What’s the point of this comment? 99% of counties in the US have safe drinking water and the few that don’t get called out for it like this. This is probably a better situation than most countries - including yours
You may want to dig into the stat some more to get a handle on how bad the situation really is.
Where did you get that 99% figure from? Because I suspect you made it up.
Especially since:
One-fourth of Americans currently receive water from a source that violates the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA’s) Safe Drinking Water Act.
More information:
And then there are the substances which municipal water supplies don’t even need to get out of their water-
I just need a sugar delivery medium. Preferably one that is socially acceptable.
Have you considered eating?
I agree soda dependence isn’t a good thing, but there’s not much evidence diet soda is any less healthy than tea.
Diet soda contains sweeteners that are suspected to cause cancer. Granted, you’d have to drink a couple of liters of diet soda a day before you need to be seriously concerned, but tea has one big advantage: It contains as much sugar or sweeteners as you add to it, so there’s that.
Wait a minute are you telling me that their isn’t a sugar fairy dumping copious amounts of sugar into my tea when I turn around?!?
Please tell me it ain’t so. Then I might actually have to take accountability for my actions and I can’t do that.
That particular fairy must be employed by the dentists’ lobby, I guess 😂
suspected to cause cancer
Except there’s been a ton of reasearch on it and the best/worst they can come up with is “results are inconclusive”.
I am not discussing if soda of any kind is more unhealthy than tea or not. You can drink as much soda as you want. Just don’t bullshit yourself or anybody else. You only have one argument: “I like soda, don’t take away my soda from me.” It is not a good argument but it is all you’ve got.
What a weird response to that….
Coca cola is a little below 3€ a bottle (1.5l if i’m not mistaken) house brand is what the price should be at most: 0.89€.
We’ve had these types of cans for years and years and years where I’m from, but they were expensive before the switch too.
As long as I stay mad at “those damn libs” then companies can raise prices with impunity. If nobody boycotts these innocent companies then stock prices will be able to surge.
Honestly though, I wish people understood that by blaming only inflation they’re effectively giving companies a blank check to keep raising prices. Sigh.
Stupid shape for a can too, tips over In a vehicles cup holder
Also more surface area, so it will warm up sooner (I think?)
Shady backdoor deal with bounty I bet
Uses more aluminum to store the same amount of liquid too.
You sure about that?
Cylinders of the same volume will have the same area, so it should be the same amount of aluminum?
Maybe less, even, since the lid and bottom are thicker than the sides and on the taller can there’s less of that thick top/bottom
The easiest way to imagine how cylinders have different surface area for a given volume, is imagine how closely a shape matches a sphere, it should have a lower surface area.
Imagine a soda can with the width of one water molecule. The cross section of that can would be on the order of four aluminum atoms for that hair thin can. Then imagine a can that’s nearly a cube or a sphere and how all the liquid can be hiding behind other liquid atoms: hence fewer can atoms per liquid volume.
Blood vessels have high surface area. A pint of blood has low.
That can’t be true.
Consider a cylinder cut in half, giving a circular cross section. Cover each new circular gap with new aluminum.
Now you’ve enclosed the same volume in cylinders, with a different surface area.
You also created 2 cylinders where once there was one, which is not what was being discussed. You even mention that you added material:
Cover each new circular gap with new aluminum
I could have said “2 cylinders of the same volume” but I felt context made that clear
Yes I did say that I added material. That’s the point: you cannot do this transformation without adding material.
But you’re saying this is only with two cylinders?
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same size top/bottom for both; only difference is that the standard has a wider body bevel, and the sleek can goes nearly straight down. same lid on both cans, as well. not sure what it does for the scaled material cost, but since the lid is by far the most expensive part, it’s probably negligible, compared to the ability to inflate the price on a taller can.
I can’t fully explain the trend, but ready-to-drink (RTD) alcoholic beverages are a big hit for the industry, and even moreso when presented in the truly/high noon shape. maybe it’s a generational thing? I don’t get it, but I’m also not the target demographic.
bonus fact: the conversion costs of filling sleek cans is pretty steep for most independent brewers, so craft beer will take a couple years to adapt, if ever.
Ignore things like the bevel, wall thickness, etc. Just calculating for a basic right cylinder, you can see how the surface area changes for different heights with a constant volume. I’ve outlined the standard dimensions of a can(inches).
https://youtu.be/gL3HxBQyeg0I had a feeling it’d math out something like that if I opened my fat mouth, lol
I do wonder if thickness of the walls or lid/bottom does have an effect, though, as there must be some reason they make these weird ass cans
The lid uses more aluminum than the rest of the can, making that smaller will have a bigger impact than the height of the can.
and both of those cans use the same size lid
In the grand scheme of things, it’s not using much more. And if the prices are correct in OP, the markup on the new can is way higher than any extra cost they are incurring from additional raw materials. They probably had some marketing study show that a taller looking can makes consumer’s less angry about a price increase or some other crazy nonsense.
a sphere (think bubbles) minimizes area for a given volume
there must be some reason
Just a marketing trick IIRC, since energy drinks got popular and beer cans got unpopular among gen z.
True, look at the seltzer market for instance.
pretty sure it just lets them fit more cans into the same box for shipping, same logic as how you can pack more sand into a box than you can pebbles
I always thought that narrower pressure vessels could contain higher pressure, because the curvature is more severe, meaning that for a vessel that needs to retain a similar level of pressure, you could just use less material in the walls of the vessel. Is this not the case with these new cans, and they have the same wall thickness, or is the tradeoff just one that still works out to be in favor of more total aluminum usage?
Force inside a cylinder vessel is just pressure times surface area. If you have the same pressure(soda carbonation) with more surface area, then you are putting less force on the walls. I don’t have any specialty in the materials engineering for canning, but i suppose less force on the walls means you could use thinner materials. However, soda can walls are already pretty thin to start with and from what I can find online, the tops are usually 2.5-3 times thicker. So, I could see it potentially cutting some cost from the tops by making them thinner but i doubt they are manufacturing different tops. It’s probably just marketing.
I thought the cand were extruded from discs… Maybe they use a larger disc, but I think the taller cans have thinner walls.
Source: https://youtu.be/V4TVDSWuR5E
Soda is such a fucking profitable scam because it’s mostly water and that resource is mostly free. The syrup and carbonation should be pennies compared to what it actually sells for.
Water is far from “mostly free”, especially at the amounts used by soda makers
Here in Germany they can extract millions of liters for a symbolic euro, that is basically free and also far from a third world country. Coke has enough power to get through with this.
Don’t know the situation in america so what you say may be true, but on some countries (developing ones where the power of the state is diminished) water is not free for everybody else, but multinational corporations get almost unlimited use concessions for their bottlers for a laughably low fee if any, drying out the area and sometimes literally leaving towns or regions with no public water left for other uses, forcing the people to have to pay for other sources. I don’t live in a place in that situation yet, but some other regions in my country are going exactly through that. In some cases, those beverages are for the american market.
It probably not that cheap anywhere in the U.S., but on the other hand, they probably get enough tax breaks to make up for it.
What are you doing step inflation!?
Reason 500,000 to not buy any Coca Cola corp products
At least it’s still original taste …
