Every mom in my family is about this stupid, let me be honest, even dumber than this lady and that’s about 20 people. They are conservatives. And they vote!
These people don’t deserve to have their voices reinforced by idiot representatives.
So don’t you skip that vote this year okay?
And please vote more often because there is actually a lot of voting to be done.
Moms don’t want the loneliness that comes when their kids move out, I guess
The conservative philosophy right now can be well summed as “Make the kids come back for thanksgiving again!”
I don’t think anyone says that the DQ person needs to be able to afford a standard of living that’s luxurious, but what they’re saying is that everyone needs to be able to afford basic necessities (shelter, food, healthcare, education etc.).
I absolutely want the DQ person to have a luxurious standard of living. I want them to be flashing Rolex when I walk in. Otherwise what’s the fucking point of all this modern society shit we’ve built?
I always liked this song for that reason
Nobody living savage errbody got change, even the paper boy deliver out the back of a Range
Some people have 5 homes and some have none, that’s decidedly not Nellyville
The point is to create power imbalances in the favour of a certain group.
By implying that fast food workers shouldn’t be payed a livable wage; it’s admitting you are ok with exploiting disadvantaged groups, whether that’s teenagers, low-iq adults, or otherwise desperate people. Cheap fast food is a luxury, not a requirement for a healthy society.
So… slaves? What fucking solution do they expect here?
I read it as Dairy Queen shouldn’t exist because it depends on unhealthy labor. You could interpret the whole thing as anti work.
Many comments here seem to assume the opposite though. I don’t know who that person is.
Christ, barely even slaves. Just purely disposable temporary humans. Locked into a Dairy Queen to work until you die, then flushed out and replaced with someone new.
At least now we know why these people want to outlaw abortion. Gotta do something about all that human turnover.
She’s on a diet
Didn’t even explain. Keep them struggling just because.
Must own a franchise to have a shit opinion like that.
So I am sure she is willing to be the one to take the unlivable wage then?
We all know that she is so much better than everyone else.
Oh hey princess privilege has an opinion on the poors.
Stupid people don’t know there are stupid people and they are them.
Ignorance is bliss.
That’s what I’m told but a lot of them seem really angry so I have my doubts.
Bring back public beatings
Good points, although I think the concern about the difficulty of avoiding a neo slavery caste is larger. That said, one of the arguments for UBI is that it would give the freedom to walk away from shitty employers, so the pressure would be in the opposite direction. I don’t think it’s necessarily that simple, since the creativity geared towards exploitation seems to be boundless.
I would be strongly in favour of abolishing the minimum wage IF AND ONLY IF there is also a guaranteed UBI.
I would happily serve icecream for free if I got a UBI.
Janitors would need higher pay than many other jobs.
How does that quote go? Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and be confirmed one. Something like that. Anyway, it applies here.
“…than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”
That’s it! Do you remember who said it?
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Albert Abraham Einstein Lincoln.
Pretty sure it was Mark Confucious Twain Switzer…Jr.
It wasn’t Sr?
Pothetato said it
The Romans, google this: si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Wilson, Tim Taylor’s neighbour.
Sadly, the author isn’t actually known.
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So Mark Twain then, since he said everything.
Or Shakespeare.
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Someone play Devil’s Advocate and give us a workable argument for a society where people can’t live off any single job. I’m not one to shy away from arguments and perspectives I don’t agree with. It’s important to understand both sides.
it’s really not. the most charitable thing you could ascribe to this lady is she’s assumed the wrong priors.
perhaps in her head DQ and similar jobs should be staffed only by teenagers making spending money in a world where adults are so gainfully employed that they have no need to work here.
that is not the world we live in today. it may or may not have existed in the past. it certainly doesn’t under our corporate overlords today. advocating for low wages for these jobs today is advocating for people to struggle, to overcrowd their apartments, and to resort to desperate means to survive.
It’s also a world in which DQ would have no employees to serve you during school hours.
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It’s ok if certain jobs can only exist to provide income for young people so that they can learn to budget, save, buy things to pursue their interests, and so on. I had a job at DQ making minimum when I was 14, left when I turned 15 to make 1.50/hr more, and found yet another job when I turned 16 making another couple Dollars per hour. If you didn’t have minimum wage or very low wage workers willing to do these jobs, then they probably would cease to exist. That means no more ice cream. When I was 14 I appreciated being able to earn extra money even though I didn’t need it, and now I appreciate buying ice cream every once in a while at a reasonable price.
The usual argument is that those jobs are for teenagers or some shit. Nevermind the fact that teenagers have very limited working hours (can’t exactly get that chicken strip basket at lunch on a workday if only teens are working there). The other part of the reasoning is something along the lines of wanting to “motivate” people to move into other fields/jobs. But quite frankly, that’s a stupid argument. I wouldn’t want to work fast food again even if they were paying me the same money I make now. I would much rather work from home at a computer than deal with shitty people all day in a hot greasy environment.
as a dude who works from home from a computer but used to work in a kitchen, sometimes I miss it. It can be stressful, sometimes more stressful than a deskjob, but it’s also contained. It’s nice to clock out and not have to think about my progress on some work item or how I need to study up on some new tech.
Oh I get that. There are times that I miss aspects of my old jobs, but I’m quite certain I miss the idea of it, the nostalgia, more than the job itself. Like I have a lot of great memories of working at Taco Bell as a teenager - good friends, staying up super late (worked late shift on the weekends and when I was out of school), the freedom of it as a teen. But going back and doing that job now would suck ass, dealing with rude customers, the coworkers that were dead weight, the inconsistent schedule, constant commotion and high pace. I’m too old for that shit now, and a lot of what was fun then would be probably be annoying now. I’m sure plenty of things were different in fast food vs an actual kitchen in a sit down restaurant but I imagine you would deal with a lot of that same stuff.
A “functional” society is not the same thing as a society worth living in or supporting.
Corporatism with wage slaves working 80 hours a week in the most productive period of human history ever is functional, in that people are deliberately kept alive and productive as long as they don’t get too uppity.
Sure, this makes the upper class obscenely wealthy at the cost of everyone else, but it does technically work. Lines do go up.
Just not the lines that should go up.
If Dairy Queen paid a living wage, there would be no motive for people to move to higher level jobs. People would just stay in these starter jobs forever and we would have nobody in offices, power plants, or construction fields.
This is not my actual opinion. I think all jobs should pay a living wage.
What an absolute shithead opinion. Fuck you, lady. Let me get you a spoon so you can eat my ass.
I think I have been doing it wrong. I never tried eating it with a spoon.
