• drail
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    Physics is a mixed bag with this stuff. Gell-Mann came up with the name quarks after a line from Finnegan’s Wake because Joyce referenced them as coming in three. It was a nonsense word inserted just to rhyme with Mark, Park, etc, so its pronunciation in physics isn’t even correct, but it was fun and physicists were just having a good time with it.

    Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it’s all beside the mark.

    Then we got the strange/charm and top/bottom (which was originally the beauty/truth, so bullet dodged there) so the quarks really got all the fun names. Strong Force physics in general gets the good stuff: Axions were named after a detergent because they helped “clean up” the strong CP-violation problem of the standard model. Fantastic, no notes.

    Neutrinos (my field of study), had so much potential for fun, stupid naming that was squandered. The neutrino was originally proposed with the name “neutron” by Pauli, but then the actual neutron was discovered and observed first, so the name got pinched. To remedy this, the electron neutrino was dubbed “neutrino” or little neutron (they didn’t know that other flavors of neutrino existed). Meanwhile, the muon neutrino was originally supposed to be the neutretto (before they realized that the neutral leptons were related by the different particle generations), so we could have had a world where each generation of neutral lepton was just another combination of neutron + diminutive italian suffix.

    1. Neutrino
    2. Neutretto/neutronetto
    3. Neutrello/neutronello

    Then, when the mass eigenstates were confirmed, we could have diversified and gone with big suffixes to indicate that neutrinos have mass.

    1. Neutroni
    2. Neutrachione/neutronachione
    3. Neutrozzo/neutronozzo

    But noooooo, particle physics decided to just give neutrinos the lamest possible names, electron/muon/tau neutrinos for flavor states and m_1/m_2/m_3 neutrino for mass states. I am ashamed of my predecessors for what they’ve done.

    Don’t even get me started on the J/Psi debacle…

    • littleblue✨
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      21 year ago

      So… It seems that you feel let down by your predecessors in physics’ inability to tell the future… Hunh. Odd, that.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      Chromodynamics just uses colors, but makes up for that simplicity by introducing anti-colors.

      Neutrello

      That sounds delicious.

      • drail
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        Neutrello sounds good, but it is actually pretty…

        weak

        Rimshot, crowd moans

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      TIL I’ve pronounced quark wrong my whole life (rhyming with park).

      Though I’ve heard it done that way elsewhere - perhaps it is also considered acceptable at this point.

      • TXL
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        51 year ago

        You need it to make the quantum duck joke. Quark quark.

      • drail
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        Gell-Mann said it sounds like “quart”, Joyce rhymed it with Park, it is a silly word and the pronunciation is as fluid as you desire.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 year ago

      Wait, how is “quark” supposed to be pronounced? Not like the Star Trek character or the German cheese?

    • @[email protected]
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      211 year ago

      The time derivative of position is velocity. The derivative of velocity is acceleration. Derive again and you get jerk. Then it’s snap, crackle and pop.

      (For those too young, these are the names of those characters they use to sell Rice Krispies)

    • @[email protected]
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      61 year ago

      My favourite is the barn. Hmm what should we call this 10^-28 m^2 cross sectional area? Ten times less than a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a square metre. Hur hurr wow it’s so BIG it’s like hitting a barn door, let’s call it a barn.

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    311 year ago

    Fun fact (not really) about Nim: he and the other ASL chimps were HORRIBLY abused. Basically every single one of them.

    And it was all for nothing, not a single bit of evidence shows that teaching chimps ASL worked and allowed any form of actual communication.

    Yes, even Koko.

    https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      Well, communication is definitely shown.

      But… “speech”, “language”, “sentient thought”? That’s the subjective bit, imo. Communication is easy.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 year ago

      Relevant username. Also wow sinonasal is hard to read correctly, I got sinusoidal a few times

  • @[email protected]
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    In quantum mechanics, there are types of vectors that are written like |a>, which is called a “ket”, and their dual vectors as <a|, which are called “bra”. You write the scalar product as <a|b>. This is called the Bra-Ket-Notation.

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    #transcription

    fuckingflying

    I hate linguistic anthropology. Why? One of the most influential experiments in linguistic anthropology involved teaching a chimp asl. One of the most influential linguistics is named Noam Chomsky. You know what the chimp’s name was?

    Nim Chimpsky.

    Fucking monkey pun.

    And this is in textbooks, in documentaries, everywhere. And everyone just IGNORES THIS GOD AWFUL PUN cause of how important the experiment was. But

    BUT LOOK AT THIS SHIT. FUCKING NIM CHIMPSKY. I HATE THIS WHOLE FIELD.

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    Its not just the linguistic anthropologists.

    There’s a group of very important genes that determine if your body develops in the right shape/organization… they are called the hedgehog genes, because fruit fly geneticists are all ridiculous. The different hedgehog genes are all named after different hedgehogs. And then someone decided to get clever and name one "sonic hedgehog’ because this is just what fruitfly geneticists do.

    Well sonic hedgehog controls brain development, and now actual doctors are stuck in the position of explaining to grieving parents that their child’s lethal birth defects or life-threatening tumors are caused by a “sonic hedgehog mutation”.

    And this is why no one will invite the fruit fly people to parties.

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    Biogeochemical scientists, upon discovering the complex mechanisms that govern the storage and use of molecular iron on our planet, decided to call this cycle “the ferrous wheel”. We groaned about that for at least five solid minutes.

    callmegallifreya
    The phenomenon of sneezing when exposed to sudden bright light is called an Autosomal-dominant Compelling Helio Opthalmic Outburst. ACHOO Half a byte of data is a nibble.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    Nah, it’s good and helps people remember things. Easier than the arbitrary name of the discoverer

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    Not just hedgehog, there’s one called Sonic Hedgehog…

    And there’s an enzyme called Fuculokinase sometimes abbreviated “Fuck” in the literature because some of us are still 12 years old.

    Here and Here are examples

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    131 year ago

    Been in a lab meeting (biochemists) with a group who were naming a new method they made. They started with the acronym and decided what it would stand for second.

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    People are really awful at naming things.

    Some German nerd thought it was cool while they discovered some new receptor so they called it “toll” (German for cool/awesome). Computer science is full of names that are kind of funny if you already know the particular area but are total gibberish if you’re trying learn it. We’re not even good at naming humans. The default is to either pick one of the names that’s common in your culture. When people deviate from that you get a huge number of “special” names.

    We need to put this in the hands of experts. I’m gonna propose a new field, “nameology”. Those folks will do a bunch of research into names that make sense. How do we best name things so they completely and unambiguously label them in a way that’s easy to remember and use? Then they can run around and give non stupid names to all the things.

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      Hmm, I think we should start referring to the toll-like receptors as the awesome-ish receptors.
      Another example: there’s a fruit-fly gene named decapentaplegic (which has to do with forming the 15 imaginal discs during embryonic development). When they discovered another gene that interfered with it, but only when inherited from the mother, they named that one “mothers against decapentaplegic”.

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    Not exactly the same but I remember starting my software engineering course and having to remote into the university servers to write code. All the servers were named after Red Dwarf characters. Being a career changer, as soon as I saw the server names I had this calming feeling that I’d finally found my people and everything was going to be ok.

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      My dad was never at university, but he was a unix admin for ages. his naming conventions for clusters?

      Star Wars characters.
      Red Dwarf Characters.
      Star trek characters.
      Asimov’s robots.
      and apparently, his annoying bosses. (For the troublesome clusters.)

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve heard it’s a “pets vs cattle” thing. When you have a small fleet of distinct servers, you name them. When you have a thousand interchangeable boxes, you give them systematic IDs.

        Or you scale up to a franchise with a large enough cast. I wonder if anyone uses One Piece character names for servers?

        • FuglyDuck
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          211 year ago

          It kind of also depends on how you interact with them- some clusters are interacted with by admin as a single entity; those got names even if they technically represented lots of rackspace; or the hardware that’s running specific groupings of services.

          Like a databases. (Darth Vader was reserved for databases that logged and tracked errors… aka other systems that were, uh, rebellions.)

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            51 year ago

            You give systematic id’s to completely interchangable things. You give unique names to unique things.

            If you name a formal thing (like a physical computer) by its function you have failed at naming. And are probably a manager who doesn’t see that one day you’ll need many things of almost the same function and to tell them apart. Or that one thing will have many functions.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          To anyone reading this and not getting it. When your pet gets sick you take care of it (named special servers/other machines). When a cow in the feed lot gets sick you…replace it.