• Hugucinogens
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    While I would find an American tiktok ban funny, this satire/article gives me mixed feelings because the “tiktok ban legislation” they’re trying to pass, has some real dystopic shit hidden in it, behind the only slightly dystopic veil of “banning the Chinese”.

    • @[email protected]
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      301 year ago

      While China is definitely a problem to be dealt with, I think it’s become the new “Think of the children!”

      • @[email protected]
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        “These commie Timtoks will drag the kids to hell where they’ll burn with the D&D dungeon masters and the people who hand out free hallucinogens to children!”

        -Republican Suburban Hellscape

        • GladiusB
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          It’s not about the videos. It’s about the owners having strong ties to the government. Who wants information. If it was the videos they wouldn’t care.

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              Tbf I think those are all banned/heavily censored to some degree in China. Google maps doesn’t work in China for example.

              But when the United States starts doing the same thing it does weaken the narrative that China is some authoritarian hell scape unless people are willing to accept the United States is as well.

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                Look at it from outside China and the US and try to find the difference.

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            If we can agree that this is a problem, then all American social media companies should be banned as well, which I’m not entirely opposed to. What people are taking issue with is that this level of logic is only applied against China, and not American companies, which are guilty of the same crimes.

      • @[email protected]
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        361 year ago

        As a Canadian, I’m much more concerned with America than China. You guys are much more of a problem for the average earthling.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            It was never the propagandized version of America you see in media. It’s always been the shady organization you think it is. From the genocide of the native Americans to the willingness to supply weapons of war to a country committing genocide in broad daylight, today.

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      More than that, it seems to validate the Chinese philosophy that censorship is the right way to combat foreign influence. The enforcement mechanisms are pretty obvious follow-ons of the premise, which is why we’ve mostly attempted to avoid this kind of thing. In my mind the marketplace of ideas fallout is the real problem.

  • @[email protected]
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    I like my fellow American Lemmings and wouldn’t want to see you banned. Some love from Europe ♥️

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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    I am not following this TikTok sale closely. The idea is that China

    Hit enter and then forgot.

    Is the idea that China steals our tech so we’re going to steal their business and sell it to Americans?

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    111 year ago

    You know the reason why they’re considering banning TikTok?

    Do you think it’s to protect the people? Do you think it’s because Social media is Toxic af? Well guess what…it’s none of those things.

    It’s only because China passed laws saying that companies that operated there had to be owned by the Chinese. America just did a big fat “Nuh uh, you!” - that’s all.

    • PatFusty
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      Your comment is just misinformation. The US government asked Tik Tok to sever it’s ties to its parent company and they refused. This is also not anything new as other countries and government bodies including India, Australia, Canada, the UK, parts of the European Union, and New Zealand have banned the app from official devices due to security reasons.

      This isn’t a “America bad REEEEE” kind of moment.

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        This isn’t a “America bad REEEEE” kind of moment.

        EXACTLY! It’s a “China bad REEEEE!” kind of moment.

        You missed the mark. Which was exactly the point I was making.

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          Well, if multiple countries are all saying the same thing then it just might be reeee bad…

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            That would be called the populum fallacy. Just because something is popular, doesn’t make it right.

            I notice none of you have actually provided any logical reasoning here that contradicted me, just reiterated the same “but others are doing it” stance.

            Why is TikTok being banned? Because of 'surveillance"? Okay, then why isn’t facebook and others? – Oh because they’re part of the same allied group who have an agreement to spy on each others citizens (five eyes).

            It’s basically saying “You’re okay to spy on Americans if you’re an ‘American’ company or at least one of the countries we’re allied with”…

            But, we’re looking at a double-standard here. This is literally only being implemented because “ree china bad”.

            Give me some good arguments here, that…CANNOT…also be applied to American social media companies, and you’ll have won this argument.

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              American social media is also not okay.

              But this isn’t an either/or situation. We can shit on both.

              And Tiktok, just like Facebook (and the CCP and the US government) deserves all the hate it gets.

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                But this isn’t an either/or situation. We can shit on both.

                But you’re not. That’s about as clear as water. None of this legislation has any effect whatsoever on American companies…

                Why?

                Because this is a nationalism thing. Not a security thing. Not a health and well-being thing. This is a nationalism thing.

                It’s also an Israel thing; lots of pro-palestine content on TikTok, and Israel wants that shit shut down.

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        This isn’t a “America bad REEEEE” kind of moment.

        Feels like 70% of all content on Lemmy is “America bad reee”