To put this into perspective, China’s high-speed rail project in Indonesia connecting Jakarta and Bandung (a distance of 143 km) at a speed of 350 km/h was completed in just four months at total cost of $7.3 billion.
This line has seen an impressive number of passengers, with approximately 2 million people utilizing the service.
joke country for silly clown people
“You can use private sector partners when you are in a segment where it’s likely to be profitable,” he said. “I think that’s hard to do in the Central Valley, but more likely in the Bay Area and Los Angeles regions.”
God damn America.
I would still go with it, it is the first time America is trying to do HSR, $100b is nothing (America spends $800b annually on military)
$100b is nothing
Its a fuckton of money. Its over five times the GDP of the country of Georgia. I wouldn’t even be arguing “HSR isn’t worth it”. I’d be arguing we need a fucking HSR Joseph Stalin to kill all the motherfuckers who have been involved in the project to date, start over, and do it right.
yea but that’s not happening in the shithole that is the US. What I meant is that they should stop caring this much about the money aspect and look at whether the progress is good. $100b is a lot for normal people and smaller countries but not much for a (falling off) superpower, and it’s spread out over many years.
The 2008 bailout for instance was like $29000b
The 2008 bailout for instance was like $29000b
A one time bailout of the national economy that included a bunch of HSR funding from coast to coast.
except sadly this country’s inability to do anything other than burn 1 ton of carbon per human moved per mile is taking the entire world down with it
President Xi free my state from the yoke of Gruesome Gavin
Project leaders estimate it will still need an additional $100 billion to finish what voters were originally pitched in 2008
lol, there are people learning to drive that began existence the same year as this plan. Really helping to provide timely emissions reductions team
I even enjoyed sleeping overnight for Beijing/Shanghai. Left after work Friday and slept, hung out all day Sat and Sun, slept for work Monday, woke up walking distance from my job.
Just give me options to see my country.
I guess all the grifter… i mean consultants gotta eat as well.
Indonesia’s high speed rail system is called Waktu Hemat, Operasi Optimal, Sistem Hebat ('Timesaving, Optimal Operation, Outstanding System), or, in short, WHOOSH
Such a large discrepancy between Cali’s and China’s because someone’s skimming off the “top” aka: the whole damn pie
By 2030, and a trillion dollars later, they will have finally established a public-private partnership charging $700 per person to ride on the not-greyhound medium-speed shuttle bus between SF and LA!
It will be a solar powered bus so it’ll be green
There’s an incredible amount of productive economic activity that California is missing out on because of how difficult it is to move people and products around the state. Even with the catastrophic budget blowouts that you get with US transit projects, I could easily see the valley to valley high speed rail project having a huge, no-brainer ROI for the state. This is literally the most obvious city pair in the world for this kind of project.
The state would be fucking awesome if we had Chinese level competence
I have written about CHSR before. This is just one niche issue in the project, but it’s an excellent example of how fundamentally broken California is.
wait, is this the same one that was supposed to be built 20 years ago for $10 billion?
Yes.
Zeno’s California Rail Project. Its so fucking funny that “damn, this whole thing is shady af, look at all the grifts and crimes and cons involved!” was a B-plot in a True Detective season released in 2015 and they’re still getting away with it.
Make it so.
I can think of three people in the US that has more money than that to their names.
100 billion ain’t shit no more. Quit telling us we aren’t worth a Bezos, or take it from Bezos so I don’t have to suffer under the hypocrisy.
I don’t think the money is the problem. For one thing, it shouldn’t cost $100 billion. The Kyushu bullet train was built in 2004 and cost $6 billion. It’s 159 miles long. The SF to LA train would be around 390 miles long, and yet would cost over 15x that of an equivalent Japanese train.
The problem is the private companies contracted for this thing don’t actually want to build trains, they want to make a profit. They make enough of a profit from scamming tax subsidies, so they never actually have to build the train.
