I kept burning my food or wait forever for the pan to heat up and I finally understand why. Each knob has a different direction for the Hi and Lo (also why isn’t it Low).

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    One office I worked in had a toaster with a knob where “off” is almost all the way to the left.

    Turning the knob to the right lets you control the toasting time, like any other knob-based timer.

    But if you turn it left from the “off” position, that’s the “stay on” position.

    So if you’d set the timer, and then wanted to cancel it, you can’t just turn it all the way left like on any other knob timer. If you do that, you’re telling it to stay on forever and eventually scorch the table and set off the fire alarm.

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    I’m really trying to understand what’s going on here in a way that makes sense, even if it’s a twisted kind of sense.

    My best guess is that each of these burners are a different size and some have multiple rings and that by turning the knob left (Anti-clockwise), you’re going from smaller number of rings to larger number of rings - however, the rings start at their highest heat level. So looking at the bottom right dial as an example, the first “Notch” on the left is the smallest burner on the highest setting, then as you turn left more, it’ll dial down that burner until you get to the second ring on the burner - starting at full power for that second burner and continuing to lower power until you get to the 3rd ring, then it’s same again for the 4th ring.

    Is that right? am I even close? I don’t understand why you’d go from smallest burner to highest burner anti-clockwise, but go from lowest burner-power to highest clockwise. That still doesn’t make sense to me.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      That’s what I’m thinking, the different burners have different rings that are individually controlled

    • LazaroFlimOP
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      42 years ago

      Yes they’re rings. Still doesn’t explain why not everything is in the same rotational direction.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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      That’s pretty much exactly how it is.

      OP’s stove is GCRE3060AF, or similar. The rightmost knob is inconsistent for reasons I cannot fathom, unless there is some obscure electrical reason. It is an electric stove, and the knobs with multiple ranges do indeed control burners that have multiple potential sizes. One of them has two selectable sizes, and other has three. On these I believe the rationale is that the high setting is the closest and most easily accessible because radiant electric ranges suck [citation not needed] and since they take forever and a day to heat up most users will just leap right to the full blast output setting immediately. I have no idea why the direction on the last knob is backwards from the others, clockwise versus counterclockwise, but it is.

      If you’re morbidly curious, you can view the entire control panel from OP’s stove (or one similar) here.

      • LazaroFlimOP
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        132 years ago

        Yep. It’s. GCRE3060AFF electric stove. (Other thing I hate is the fan noise when the oven is on, even when not on convection). Your idea of Hi closest to off position makes sense except of that triple knob, the 3rd ring Hi position isn’t at the top.

        • BarqsHasBite
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          22 years ago

          Have you Google the fan being on all the time? Ours (different model) doesn’t do that and they really shouldn’t.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            It has to do with keeping the internal circuit boards cool so they don’t overheat due to the heat from the oven. We had a stove that did that too. I hated that thing. It would roar like a jet engine for about 30 minutes even after you turned the oven off.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              US kitchen appliances are so weird and bad. I don’t get why your stuff doesn’t progress like over here in EU. We get the cleanest, modern, most silent kitchen setups ever.

              • LazaroFlimOP
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                32 years ago

                Because you can make a larger profit by keeping the same design and parts on a crap product and charge you an inflated premium vs selling you a good product with decent R&D and testing. If it’s all crap you can’t tell you’re being fucked. Same thing with sliding guillotinée windows and health insurance.

        • LazaroFlimOP
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          42 years ago

          I’m sure there’s a lazy engineer reason. But as someone who does engineering semi-professionally, come on! You don’t skimp out on UX just because it’s easier to make it this way! There is a reason why Murphy’s Law exists! And in this case it’s actually a fire hazard!

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            As a UX designer who became an appliance salesman, I challenge you to invent better UX for these features.

            • LazaroFlimOP
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              12 years ago

              Well, for starter. Pick a direction for Lo -> Hi either clockwise or counterclockwise and stick to it.

              The rotating knob is great. Haptic feedback. You can see it’s off at a clan r from afar. It’s not an encoder but a potentiometer so each position always has the same function hard coded. Just make them all turn in the same direction.

              I would chose counter-clockwise as it’s easier to turn it that way for a right handed person (and that’s how the single burners are designed, all 3 of them (although the warm zone has a weird dead zone for some reason). Start on Lo until it gets to Hi then for multiple ring ones when you hit ring_1 hi and continue you get to ring_2 Lo and so on.

        • @[email protected]
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          102 years ago

          Also seems mildly infuriating to reach across whatever you are cooking to handle the knobs.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            I can’t decide if I prefer this (my stove is this way) or bumping the knobs with my hips.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              My stove has the front knobs, it’s gas, and it’s been bumped on accidentally more than once and someone else walks into the kitchen and has the horrifying realization that the kitchen smells like gas. I think I prefer the electric stove I had as a kid.

              • ThatBaldFella
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                22 years ago

                That’s why modern gas stoves have safety valves. There’s a temp sensor near the burner which automatically shuts the gas off if the burner isn’t lit.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            I nearly burned myself the other day doing this on my stove. Put the damn knobs down on the front!!!

          • LazaroFlimOP
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            12 years ago

            That was a choice. We have a young kid who loooves touching buttons and turning knobs.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 years ago

              Well that’s fair and relatable. My kid keeps turning on the oven and turning off the dishwasher. Our stove has touch controls on the surface that he hasn’t figured out quite yet, but since it’s an induction stove it turns off pretty quickly if nothing is on it.

              • LazaroFlimOP
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                22 years ago

                Our dishwasher has buttons on the i side. You need to open the door to control it. Then when you close it it looks clean with no buttons.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Looking at the one in the top left… imagine if that was for an amplifier. Like, you have to pass through maximum to reach off. That would be the worst to live near.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Are these like different pictures of range knobs mashed together? I find it almost impossible to believe they put a different style control for each possible position.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    On mine the left most knob controls the front and the one next to it does the back. On the right side they are reversed so Im constantly lighti g the wrong one.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      That’s at least semi normal. Outside knobs are front, inside are back. Center for the oven.

      As long as they’re labeled and spin the same way, I’m fine.

      But what Lovecraftian villain came up with OP’s oven controls?

    • Kushan
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      202 years ago

      Mine has similar settings but they’re named in ways which actually tells you why you’d want them that way: “Ready to Iron”, “Ready to Hang” and “Extra Dry”, things like that.

    • LazaroFlimOP
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      962 years ago

      That actually makes sense for things you want to finish drying on a line so they don’t heat up too much and shrink.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Some fabrics wrinkle when you allow them to sit in the dryer totally dry. For those you want to take them out and hang them for the last bit so when they reach their driest state they’re hanging and not crumpled within the dryer.

      source: am appliance salesman

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        It just seemed nuts hooking up a water line to my dryer the first time I got one with steam cycles.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I never hooked mine up because I didn’t see much point in steam… But now I kinda want to.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            You can mimic most of the steam features by throwing an ice cube in before running the dryer.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Tell me you didn’t read the manual without telling me you didn’t read the manual.

      (I didn’t read mine too, btw)