• @[email protected]
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    I have yet to meet one person that actively likes Windows, it’s always that they use it because it’s the only thing they know

    You guys have Stockholm syndrome

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      41 year ago

      it’s always that they use it because it’s the only thing they know

      Or they are forced to use it because of X application that only supports Windows and Wine doesn’t work well enough for it to run on Linux

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      21 year ago

      If Windows is good enough for John Carmack it’s good enough for me. Tried Linux as my main driver for a couple years and there were nothing but hoops, problems and endless configurations to jump through. Why do I have to learn every goddamn thing about the operating system to use it properly? It’s like washing your clothes by hand. Ever tried that? Well I had to for several months once, not fun at all. So yes I actively like Windows.

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        31 year ago

        Alternatively you learned to jump through all of Window’s hoops over the years of using it. Also, experience in the sense of configuration and hoops can vary wildly by distro. Linux has of course not always had the cleanest UI/UX but it’s always getting better and simply does not have the level of investments as Windows or MacOS. When Linux does have investment and runs on corporate sponsored hardware it’s usually pretty solid and easy to use e.g. ChromeOS, Android, and many server and cloud products. Also some people may appreciate the level of customizability that “washing clothes by hand” provides.

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      21 year ago

      I like it. I can run linux from the command line whenever I want. I can play whatever game I want without pulling my hair out.

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    261 year ago

    I’m a Windows user and have bwen for many many years. I recently started learning Linux so I can hopefully one day be competent enough to justify never having to buy Microsoft ^TM branded lube again.

    My partner, and much of my friend group, are a Mac users.

    I am a programmer so I know many many Linux people.

    It is Shocking how accurate this meme is LOL

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    Having used all 3 and not totally hating any of them, all the Windows ones I agree with, the two Linux ones that isn’t old computer I agree with, and I only agree with the money one for Mac. I don’t have an issue with Mac OS more than Windows OS, but it is way overpriced. At least with Windows I haven’t actually paid Microsoft much on thet front. Though if you add in other MS products then we’re back to being screwed.

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    You can tell how old an image is by counting the jpg artifact rings. This one is from 2005 by my estimates.

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        It was a default for so long that people just got used to the feel of it and its “ecosystem” if you can call it that.

        I use Win at home and at work as my main desktop, because of familiarity, the apps I got used to and because I just don’t feel comfortable with any Linux UI. I get annoyed when the Win UI gets even slightly changed between OS versions, so imagine how it would be for me just switching to Linux. I have a dual boot, but the Linux partitions always gather dust no matter the distro.

        But I wouldn’t touch a Windows server. I’m apt with the Linux on work servers, my home server, RaspberryPi and routers. It feeels like having swiss army knives and I feel at home in a command line.

        This doesn’t make me a fanboy, but I do get raised eyebrows from co-workers.

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        I disagree. They might not go out of their way to recommend windows but when any other alternative is mentioned they 100% start arguing.

        I’ve seen people on r/programming complain that they hated linux and open source cause it gave them a way to use a feature in vlc that wasn’t there natively. The other day I saw someone complaining that linux had window rules.

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            As a long time Linux user, I had a humbling experience when I started using OpenBSD and had to look up all the details like “what is /dev/rsd1c?” or “how do I connect to wifi automatically?” It’s not hard, and it’s right there in the manpages, but it was a little overwhelming figuring out everything. And then I was already used to the unix-like terminology, I can only imagine coming from windows.

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            41 year ago

            So considering most everyone who thinks Linux is too hard is going off the state of Linux 10 years ago or longer, I cannot agree with you. “You can possibly have an issue” is not something that even Microsoft’s huge budget can save them from.

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              My laptop camera still doesn’t work on Linux lol

              I’ve spent 0 minutes trying to fix it, but in my defense, that’s exactly as long as I should have to spend fixing it, and it’s exactly as long as I had to think about it on Windows.

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                That sucks. Yeah, there’s a million combinations of hardware out there. I on the other hand installed linux on two pretty ancient laptops and revived them from being too slow to even use with windows, and the builtin web cam worked perfectly on both. /shrug

                No one is saying Linux has no challenges, just that the image of it that most people have is outdated. I’ve had issues on windows with some extremely stupid hardware issues myself. Can’t pretend it’s perfect either.

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                  I don’t think anyone is deranged enough to call Windows “perfect”. It’s just the most supported operating system by virtue of being the most widely used operating system. And it will likely stay that way until enough people like us show up in the usage statistics for manufacturers to consider first-class Linux support.

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                That has as much to do with installing the os yourself vs buying a machine with the os preinstalled… I’ve had plenty of machines where some part or other doesn’t work well or at all because they need drivers that aren’t available for whatever reason…

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            31 year ago

            I think the key statement there is “has grown up using windows”. Using Linux is no harder than using Windows, and in many scenarios it can even be easier. The smart kids these days are learning Linux first instead of taking a detour through old-school Windows.

            Better hardware support will come with more popularity, there are always bugs with any operating system.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        I’m a window 7 fanboy. The rest can get bent. XP would have been good if it didn’t blue screen so easily

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          21 year ago

          Win10 LTSC-E is pretty great. Shame you can’t use it without a large scale government contract…

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            21 year ago

            True. I’ve been enjoying Windows 10 now that I’ve really tuned it to my liking. It took too much work to get it there though so I don’t really fanboy for it.

            I wish there was a legitimate way to get the LTSC version because it’s very close to my tuned one

            • Justin
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              21 year ago

              Yeah, one of the main reasons I switched my gaming computer from Windows 10 to Linux was the fact that there’s so much less setup on Linux whenever you need to reinstall onto a new SSD or motherboard. (Also, that you dont need to reinstall for a new motherboard on Linux)

              That, and the looming threat of Windows 11.

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        Your can conjure them up quite easily.

        1. Go to Steam Forums for a game that doesn’t support Linux
        2. Post a new thread, politely asking about the possibility of native Linux support
        3. A Windows fanboy appears to tell you that you are wrong
        4. Warning: Since the introduction of the Steam Deck, it’s a bit harder to conjure up a Windows fanboy on the Steam forums, so you might have to try on a couple of game forums to conjure up your Windows fanboy.
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      91 year ago

      There’s a lot out there if you know where to look.

      Plenty in the windows support forums. Look for the guy who’s not an MS employee still there helping people. Don’t make too much fun, they’re the only ones who’re any good and sorting out issues…

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        Are they fanboys, though? I used to be one of those guys back when I used to help debug Windows permissions issues (it was always permissions issues) when getting .NET code to run on Windows 7. If anything, I think a lot of Windows people know that everything on Linux is far better supported and had more developer oversight, but ultimately these were the tools you had to use to use your language of choice.

        If anything, it led to such a deep imposter syndrome that I ended up moving away from C#. While I could be just as productive in Windows as I was in Linux (even today), having to use “different” tools or run “special” commands to get something as basic as Ruby running on your OS constantly made you feel that you were running against the current.

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          Not sure how long ago you used C#, but these days the entire .NET Framework and C# compiler are open-source and cross-platform, and the latest versions of .NET have native ahead-of-time compilation (“Native AoT”) which lets you compile C# apps into a single executable file that can run on a system that doesn’t have the framework installed.

          Visual Studio is still Windows-only, but VS Code is available everywhere and has good C# support, and JetBrains Rider is great too.

          You can get PowerShell on Linux too. PowerShell is really nice once you get a feel for it. You pipe objects rather than strings, so there’s a lot you can do easily without needing to use grep/cut/sed to manipulate string streams.

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            I stopped around 2016, so it’s been a while, but it’s something I still really miss. I remember .NET Core being a thing, but didn’t see enough movement in places looking to transition away, so I jumped over to a different stack.

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              .NET Core was renamed to .NET in 2020 to signal that it’s the main framework now. It had mostly reached feature parity with the old .NET Framework by then. .NET Framework is still on version 4.6.x and isn’t receiving updates other than bug fixes, so a lot of people have migrated to .NET.

              C# keeps evolving and there’s a bunch of useful language features that have been added even just in the last few years.

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    141 year ago

    I’m a linux fanboy and I bought a macbook… So where do I sit on this chart?

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      Other Linux users will see you as the “Mac as seen by Linux fanboys” panel haha

      Do you run MacOS on it? Do modern Macs even allow other OSes any more?

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        I do run MacOS on it… Tbh I really don’t care for it, the workflow is like a slightly worse gnome with KDE settings. I needed a 0 fuss 13 inch laptop with a good screen and a good battery life and a macbook was just the most logical option for me. I would like to try asahi at some point, however I don’t think their M3 support is quite there yet. I still use linux on my main PC though.

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        101 year ago

        Kind of? There is one singular Linux distribution designed to work on macs, and it’s still missing a lot of features the last time I checked