Who in their right mind goes to Mackinaw twice?
Someone who wants to cross from the lower to the upper peninsula and back without leaving the state?
Unless there’s a ferry service somewhere that I’m not seeing, there don’t seem to be a whole lot of other alternatives.
On a bicycle? Easy.
Holy shit! Shout out to Copper Harbor!
I still think Michigan should have a full-state lighthouse challenge …
After driving in the UP for mile after mile, you’ll be ready to leave.
Careful what you say my dude. Joe Pera will come for you…
Dumb Americans, lol
The top of Michigan is a shark.
Dude, you can drive 30 hours in London and still be in London.
Traffic that bad, huh?
Sometimes it’s faster to walk. And it’s not a joke.
Saw an old episode of Top Gear where they raced from one side of London to the other. 1 user by car, 1 bike, 1 public transit, and finally a boat. Bicycle arrived first, then the boat, 3rd the public transit and lastly the car. That’s a bit telling haha
I believe a tourist once managed that on the M25. Apparently the idea of a looping motorway can be a bit beyond some.
While London traffic can be frustrating, it’s not actually that bad. At least compared to a lot of American cities, let alone somewhere like Mexico city.
Well that’s wild, we have looping highways in the states too. No cure for stupid, I guess
And most anywhere else in the world that they’re geographically practical.
Even Charlotte merits one. And Pittsburgh. And basically the entire country of Afghanistan, which is kind of interesting in and of itself.
Not all are “highway” standard, but the concept is kind of universal.
To be fair, smaller cities only have them because they never invested in public transportation. Stockholm doesn’t have a complete ring yet, and probably never will.
Or you know, Rome.
When I went there I discovered that Mario Kart was a documentary. I have never been carsick until I flew South America to rome, then got into a shuttle to my hotel.
You could easily spend that and more spiralling Greater London
Driving around Germany is probanly a similar distance, it just doesn’t take as long.
Best I got without doing any double takes was Flensburg - Düsseldorf - Freiburg - Friedrichshafen - Deggendorf - Dresden - Rostock - Kiel, for a total of about 28 hrs and approx 2,559 km (~1,500 miles).
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6XqbfMMPjmMHWQpJ8
Might be able to eke out those extra 200 miles by including Saarbrücken.
For France I got a 39h/3,926km Tour de France
I got a 34 hour loop around Italy without trying to follow the slow local coastal roads and not having to veer too close to France. 😘
Very Nice (pun intended).
It kinda looks like a starfish.
Chatgpt estimates a trip around the outer most Autobahn at a 3k to 4k Kilometer. Taking 30-40 hours to drive.
Unfortunately LLMs are specifically terrible at this kind of calculation
Germany is smaller than several US states. Germany would fit twice into Texas and four times into Alaska, for instance.
That’s cheating and some European countries are much bigger than Michigan. Here’s with two points only:
35h in Quebec, not counting the time you’ll spend changing your wheels every now and then in the northern part (can’t patch a tire sliced by sharp rocks)
51h by road, both locations are in Quebec, one is just inaccessible without going through Labrador if you want to drive the whole way.
Since when has Quebec been in Europe?
Never said it is, I just pointed out that OP’s example is cheating, that some European countries are bigger than Michigan and gave an example of travelling huge distances inside a “subnational State” without cheating by doing detours. Without leaving the province, you really need to travel 35h to get from the two furthest points in Quebec by car, 35h is the quickest you’ll do it, it’s not taking 35h to travel between two points an hour or two apart.
some European countries are much bigger than Michigan
Yeah and Michigan is bigger than many European countries.
Land area of Michigan: 150,504 km^2
Land and water area: 250,493 km^2
Area of Austria: 83,879 km^2
Portugal: 92,230 km^2
UK: 244,376 km^2
Denmark: 43,094 km^2
Belguim: 30,689 km^2
Netherlands: 41,865 km^2
I know this is a shit post, but I don’t think most non natives truely grasp the vastness of America. This is A state thats bigger than Denmark, Belguim, and the Netherlands combined without including Michigans water area.
Just pointing out that it’s ridiculous to say Europeans couldn’t understand it.
Midwesterners obviously haven’t visited London’s M25.
I know someone who has a shitty car like that
laughs in Canada 30 hours is all you can do?
I can drive in my neighbourhood for 40 hours and still be in my neighbourhood. The street forms a loop.
It’s like OP forgot circles exist or something idfk
It’s his American Grade education…
If you look real close at the map, and you might miss this, you’ll notice that OP’s “circle”, as you describe it, hasn’t overlapped at all. That in a singular state is impressive. I challenge you to do that with a European country
Sure it does, it doubles back on itself at Ironwood, Copper Harbor, Sault Ste. Marie, and passes through Mackinaw twice. I don’t care whether you can drive a similar distance in a European country or not, but you can’t just blatantly lie about this route not overlapping when it clearly does multiple times.
You can drive 30 years in Muhosransk and still be in Muhosransk
