Considering we’ve had more than one school shooting where the heavily trained and armed resource officers stood down while children were being slaughtered, I don’t think the sign on the right would make me feel any safer.
From an outside world perspective I just need to point out how totally ridiculous the pairing of the job title “Resource Officer” is with “gun”.
Not to mention it’s just a matter of time before a teacher snaps or a kid steals their gun and shoots someone. Armed teachers can only ever do more harm than good.
The resource officer at my middle school molested a girl. I don’t even think they should have guns
I’d like to remind everyone that staff shooting children is also a tragedy and that only one of these signs promotes safety. (It’s not the one with staff armed)
Neither
If I were a school shooter, the sign on the right says to me, take out the staff first before they realize what’s going on.
Haha, what a stupid meme. Let’s spread this around so everybody knows what a stupid meme this is. lol stupid right wingers
If I’m a cop and you are in a school with a gun, I don’t know that you aren’t the shooter. So my point of view is behind the sight
Brought to you by the people celebrating Kyle Rittenhouse as a hero.
Better hope that first attempt doesn’t succeed.
Signs are not the solution
Don’t shoot children…
Or do. I’m a sign, not a cop.
What’s better than one person with a rifle?!
TWENTY PEOPLE WITH RIFLES LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
TWENTY PEOPLE ARMED TO THE TEETH STANDING AROUND WHILE CHILDREN ARE BEING MURDERED! GET SOME!
What if we used the right sign, but didn’t actually arm teachers? Like those fake security cameras in retailers?
Neither.
The second sign just lets the active shooter know to shoot the teacher first.
This kind of warning only works on people who intend to stay alive, but most mass shooters take their own lives or “suicide by cop” rather than be apprehended. This just shifts it to “suicide by teacher” when one eventually arrives after the shooting has already started.
Unsurprisingly, not much of a deterrent.
Also that second sign lets any bad actor know that they don’t need to bring anything. This place will supply the firearms in bullets they need.
Teachers also got into the career of teaching children not murdering them even if that child is shooting people.
The lack of general mental health coverage in America would mean a certain number of teachers having major mental health issues after killing a violent student, even worse if they accidentally kill an innocent bystander.
Thirty police stay outside an active shooting but somehow they believe 85yr old mrs.sumer gunna break out an ar and light up some fuckin random.
None. But only one will be the cause even more chaos and innocent death once the cops arrive.
I’m not going to call anyone who has drawn a loaded weapon an “innocent”. All belligerents are a danger to me and the people I car about. If they have badges, dangerous. If they are criminals, dangerous. If they are fuck up idiot vigilantes, dangerous.
The good guy with a gun is an insidious myth from Hollywood movies. If you’re not at the range or hunting, your gun makes you a risk to public safety. And as soon as it is drawn, you are a BAD GUY.
Also consider that if the cops get called to an active shooter scenario and you’re the ‘good guy with a gun’ that just took down the ‘bad guy’ … well, now you’re the active shooter.
I’m not going to call anyone who has drawn a loaded weapon an “innocent”.
I was referring to the dead kids caught in the cross fire.
Yeah. More shots fired is more people injured.
Yes, give the overworked and underpaid people guns. There is no way a potential gunmen could now also get his gun on premise.
I’m also amazed if they actually believe any sign would stop that. These people mostly plan on killing themselves anyways.
You just gonna sit there and act like they gotta be underpaid so your allegory fits? Fuckin pay them more.
How far do you think a shooter is gonna make it through a school with opposition vs no opposition?
Yes pay them more, but not so they can be armed. Do it because it’s a vital societal function to do a good job to educate our young.
Why not both?
Because guns have only one purpose: to kill. This means they have no place in schools.
If you can’t kill the killer, more will be killed. Don’t over simplify.
First off, your logic is actually braindead. An eye for an eye my friend.
Here’s something for you to consider: ban gun ownership outright, and there will be no more school shootings.
Eye for an eye allegory is about revenge. You think someone is gonna avenge the school shooter? Get fucked. Kill the thing actively putting bullets in kids. It’s simple.
Ban gun ownership and suddenly only the leeches have guns. Go figure.
You missed like all points.
They are currently underpaid, that’s merely a fact, and I agree that they should be paid more.
Of course a shooter wouldn’t make it as far with more opposition. The question is how many more shootings are going to happen if they can get guns right at their shool?
Well that’s a tactical issue. You don’t think there’s any way teachers can secure their guns but be able to readily access them when necessary? That’s kind of the whole point of the security field.
I’ll grant you that locks are generally shit. Anything with a key hole is very easily picked.
You can get guns anywhere. It’s not like we’re stopping that to begin with.
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Secure them obviously. If your teacher is dumb enough to leave a gun out, should they even be teaching?
They are teachers not armourers and even armourers make mistakes.
That’s an extremely unacceptable mistake. We can’t have senile people teaching and protecting our kids. Would you want Trump or Biden as a history teacher?
Seriously, does everyone forget what it’s like to be 12 when the teacher leaves the room?
The teachers desk gets raided. And we were happy enough to just find the stapler.
Leave it just one single chance for one single teacher to leave their gun in their desk or unattended.
Based on the safes that Lockpickinglawyer has reviewed, it could be locked away and still take no time at all for a kid to fumble the lock open
Not wrong. A handful of my classmates (me included) taught ourselves to lockpick. Not out of any malice, but just due to wanting to learn a skill. Lockpicking is not hard, as long as a person is willing to learn. And that’s completely ignoring the fact that basically everyone knows how to shiv a lock open with a card
