If you’re an American, and you want to stop Trump, it’s important to be actively involved:
- Check your voter registration - there’s been an active effort to purge voter rolls, and if you moved or changed name, you’ll need to register again anyways
- Talk with people you know about voting for Democrats up and down the ballot. Personal endorsement matters.
- Volunteer — it makes a real difference
- If you can afford it, donate to the Biden campaign. Even fairly modest amounts of money from a lot of people add up to being able to hire staff and run ads.
continued existence of capitalism does that already
At risk of by chance being somehow miraculously reached? The climate goals will soon be as dead as the polar bears.
Will make it worse, but if you look into the harms of natural gas (AKA Methane) the USA is already doing more damage than ever with much more coming online and even more planned. Climate Town video on the subject: https://youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=r9YNB_9FPAroQCG8.
Trump will just make an already dire situation worse which might actually bring it all to a head sooner. Not an endorsement but more acknowledgment of the sad reality we are actually in.
Those fugitive emissions from crude gas (‘natural’ gas) are crazy! It blows my mind that it could make the greenhouse impact even worse than coal. Those methane sensing satellites are really important so what we can actually check the emissions to see how bad they are.
The thing about methane is that it breaks down within a few years, so the impact is largely about rate of release, unlike CO2 where concentration remains elevated pretty much forever in human terms.
This means that if we stop extraction of gas, it ends up having only a modest impact on how hot it is after that
My understanding is different https://theconversation.com/climate-explained-methane-is-short-lived-in-the-atmosphere-but-leaves-long-term-damage-145040
Also, we cant afford any of it. As soon as we end up in a dustbowl situation a world war will likely be the result.
Once nations are in wartime survival mode, carbon resuction will be out the window and I sincerely think we’ll turn the earth into an uninhabitable hellscape where everyone dies.
Everyone. It may take a while for the last people to go, but I do mean everyone. People will construct elaborate bunker systems and try to make self contained farming centers, but the reality is that stuff is way harder than it looks and all it takes is one disease, one fire or power disaster, or one psycho to destroy the crops, whoch is likely after a hundred or so years and woop, everyone dies.
it does break down… into CO2 and water vapor (also a very powerful GHG).
All levers need to be pulled, even the methane one, as they have “eq” forcing effects which are accelerating warming, which risks accelerating more tipping points. This isn’t a situation where we can pick and choose what not to do, and ending methane emissions from fossil fuels and animal farming sector is a low hanging fruit.
Right. I really think the USA and Canada need to pull their heads out of the oil and gas executives assea and do the right thing for the entire planet. They can be the cause or a major win for the decline of civilization. We are hitting do or die inflections here.
Remember kids. A vote for the right in any country is a vote for Putin and Xi.
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TIL there are goals. Seems like nobody is doing anything meaningful.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m let’s petroleum production as at a near all time high. Let’s not pretend Biden is doing a bang up job on climate. We need more seats in Congress on top of the Presidency to make meaningful change.
He’s not perfect, but petroleum is only part of it. What he’s done has been to put in place the policies which will enable future decarbonization
It’s better than Republican policy, but it’s not where it could be with a representative further left on the spectrum.
That would only work if there was a majority for left-wing policy. Simply having a president who’s further on the left would not actually change that much of they have to find compromises with people who don’t care about the physical reality.
“could” ffs
Could?
No shit. A lot more than just the climate goals will be at risk.
Trumpsters don’t need further convincing.
Honestly I think electing him in 2016 was the final nail in the coffin of our chances to fully prevent major climate change. Now we’re 10 years too late.
Now we need a diverse array of strategies, including but not limited to, reduction in our emissions, mitigation of effects and seeing Russia defeated in physical warfare and made to reduce their hydrocarbon reliance. Failure in any facet of the multi-modal approach now necessary will see corresponding consequences.
Naturally, electing him again in 2024 would probably make everything much worse. Again.
If he gets reelected I’m withdrawing my retirement savings (all 10k of it!) and going on a small last binge. I don’t necessarily want to stick around for the consequences of other people’s choices to torture & kill me.
What climate goals? I see a lot of talk about deadlines and dreams. I don’t see much to indicate that there are any goals.
In sports, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.
In business, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.
If the climate “goals” that were set in the 1990s, weak as they were, had been actual goals, we’d now be planning the closure of the last pipelines, not celebrating the opening of new ones and planning for the next. We’d be planning the closure of the last oil and gas fields, not looking for new drilling and fracking opportunities.
Sure, Trump and his ilk are going to make a show of getting in the way, but it’s not like there is any coordinated, concerted effort for them to block.
Biden approved oil drilling so IDK why we even include Biden as a choice
Beats me. We’ve got our own lip-service politicians to deal with in Canada. And absolute disasters… 😠
Goals are already busted. Without Trump’s help. This is just some political faction trying to push blame. It’s a propaganda piece.
If Trump wins they can continue to pollute as they see fit. But they can shuffle the blame.
Think about the stock holders.
Trump is an accelerationist. If he wins, it’s not simply the usual BAU, it’s more.
And so could the election of any other politician.
Wow you’re so enlightened with your centricity here.
I mean really, whats the difference between eating a turd and eating 100 turds?
