In a recent appearance on Russia’s state-run television, Russian political scientist Sergey Mikheyev suggested that the country’s “empire” should grow to encompass three American states.
“I want the Russian empire with Alaska, Hawaii, California, Finland, and Poland,” he said, as translated by Gerashchenko for the clip he shared. “Although Poland and Finland are so stinky, I’m not sure, to be honest. We’ll clean them.”
Hexbear users are real quiet when posts like this come around.
I would not know, they are all on mutelists … lovely peace and quiet.
I should start doing that. Been mostly lurking after reddit changes. But those people are as bad as some of the reason why it felt like time to leave.
I would advise not. When you block someone, you cede the floor to them.
Yeah I would advise throwing the 3 tanky instances on your Blocklist (Hexbear, Lemmygrad, lemmy.ml) and find alternative communities if you subbed to any on these instances (mostly .ml communities).
Then you can block maybe the 10 users you start to recognize for their extremist or depressing views. And you’re golden.
I personally used my client to also mute the Gaza crisis with a small list because that is also just slapfests and verbal diarrhea.
It helps a lot
Be careful, they might show up and start posting gifts and emojis, thus negating everything you say, or any evidence of wrongdoing you may present!
Its totally all media lies and checks notes you being a racist cishet white male, regardless if you are any of those, and therefore your entire worldview is irrelevant and wrong. Oh and if you’re from AmEriKa (the K is important to them, it makes them feel smugly superior) then anything you say is automatically wrong and you’re an imperialist pig who deserves to die. Even if you actively protest against things. Because you aren’t violently rioting.Which they TOTALLY would be doing… Not that their parents would let them out past sunset since teenagers have a curfew.
And even if you agree with them, go kill yourself because you’re probably older than they are and old people killed the world so you are also at fault despite the fact that the modern problems of the world are millenia in the making, centuries of intentional planning, and decades of underhanded subversion by people who died long ago or are old enough to remember the moon landing.
Or just mute them like I do and never have to read another response as they scream pointlessly into the void since lemmy doesn’t hide my posts from them, just theirs from me. Every so often someone will tell me what’s being said but honestly the only thing I care to do when they show up is either pretend they don’t exist or make fun of their insane bullshit.
Dear god, imagine if they called me a Chud and posted pig shit resting on balls. I would be completely devastated, might never recover.
They might even post the glasses emoji face!
Your children’s children will have to walk around knowing they, by extension, have been utterly defeated by someone superior to them!
It does seem comforting knowing that the hexbear people are such a tiny fringe minority that they’re likely to have very little impact unless they are or become domestic terrorists in any significant number (I could see a few of them suicide-bombing in major cities, coordinated, but they’ll Darwin themselves out of existence eventually without leaving any real impact on this earth.)
Isn’t even just hexbear these days. The Genocide Joe crowd posts nonstop anti-Israel, anti-Biden articles, but as soon as a Republican says something like “finish the job” they’re radio silent.
Do we need to actively condemn genocide twice or are you just trying to call us all Russian Shills?
There is the russian shill.
So is MoveOn.org a Russian shill too?
Are the Russians in the room with you?
I am not denying a genocide is going on. I’m tired of the narrative I see where one political party is bad yet there is radio silence about the other side being complicit as well or rooting on the death of Palestinians.
What did you think about “finish the problem” from Trump?
It’s widely accepted that this does not qualify as genocide. Why do people keep on insisting the false narratives?
I think Trump is bad. You can have a political position that isn’t team based.
But you cannot have a political position that isn’t team based nor benefits Trump, because the both sides bad argument shows a pretty clear bias in favor of the much much worse side.
That’s because you’re worried about your team.
If you’re worried about either team then you should be voting responsibly against the christofascist racist authoritarian. Nobody is going to benefit from that kind of leader, historically it has been shown to be the end of entire nations, which is exactly what some bad faith arguments here on Lemmy want to happen.
I don’t think they can see this post with it being on lemmy.world.
Oh good. We just bought a house in Alaska. Just, fantastic stuff going on.
Some random guest on Russian state TV wants that, according to a translation done by a Ukrainian. Newsweek then goes with “Russian State TV wants”, implying endorsement of the idea by the Russian government.
Can you imagine if random Fox News guests were quoted as if they spoke for us? Obviously bullshit, right. That’s what this is. Nothing on Russian TV can be taken at face value.
And it wasn’t the host of the program that called it wishful thinking, it was the random guest himself only seconds later. Watch the video clip in the tweet embedded in the article to see it.
Trash journalism, Newsweek. But they knew it’d get clicks because apparently I’m the only person here who spent 25 seconds to watch the video and another 25 seconds to think. We need do better than this, people.
The real interesting bit is the “We’ll clean them”, salivating about ethnic cleansing of all non-Russians. It was a different voice than the guest - I think THAT might have been the host but I can’t tell as I don’t recognize the people involved.
To sum up:
- Russian TV airs some bullshit.
- Ukrainian propagandist carefully selects a tiny segment, puts it into whatever context suits him. Provides translation which no one checks.
- US rag misquotes segment and misattributes statements.
- We sound off on social media.
Bullshit from start to finish.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In a recent appearance on Russia’s state-run television, Russian political scientist Sergey Mikheyev suggested that the country’s “empire” should grow to encompass three American states.
The clip of the remarks began to circulate on social media on Friday when it was shared by Anton Gerashchenko, an outspoken critic of Russia and a former adviser to Ukraine’s minister of internal affairs, to X, formerly Twitter.
In it, Mikheyev mentioned the territory he would like to see taken over by Russia, including three of the westernmost American states and two North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) member nations in Europe.
Near the end of the clip, the host of the program was quick to deflate Mikheyev’s comment as “wishful thinking” divorced from actual politics.
In the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 and its heightened rhetoric about attempting to annex other countries and territories, suggestions about retaking Alaska from the U.S. have become prevalent.
In a December post to social media, also translated by Gerashchenko, Russian lawmaker Sergei Mironov suggested that U.S. oversight was weakening, and alluded to Alaska while discussing land that could be taken from it.
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hey they can just have new jersey if they want it
All of these locations (Alaska, California, Hawaii, much of eastern Europe) are ones that Russia has at one point in its imperial or soviet history had either outposts or territorial claim to. Of course, much of Eastern Europe was as recently as the 1980s under the Kremlin’s direct control, either as puppet states or as territory Russia or the USSR directly claimed. Finland and Poland in particular have both been completely invaded by Russian forces multiple times, but at the moment they are built up defensively in ways that Russia quite honestly has zero chances of winning against.
Alaska was territory that imperial Russia claimed before any European country did. It was sold to the US during the Crimean war (1853) because Russia needed the money and in all likelihood it was going to lose it to Britain. Russia established early trading outposts in Alaska and California but sold or abandoned them after wiping out the fur animals they’d come to harvest and trade.
This talk for the benefit of Russian audiences is about reminding Russians of former imperial or soviet glory, but the problem with that historically is that it wasn’t actually glorious.
The current propaganda push to get Russians thinking they really have a shot at rolling back the map changes since Imperial times is just an effort to sustain Russia’s modern project: dismantling the post-WWII order in which the West (the US, in particular, but NATO and much of the UN) upholds alliances that Putin sees as against Russia’s interests.
All of these locations (Alaska, California, Hawaii, much of eastern Europe) are ones that Russia has at one point in its imperial or soviet history had either outposts or territorial claim to.
Come on dawg, you can’t just drop Hawaii in there and not tell us what the fuck the Russians were doing over there!
Sorry- I didn’t know that part off the top of my head But since you asked, Russia’s presence in Hawaii was sort of like its presence in Alaska and California: early 1800s outposts established by agents acting on behalf of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-American_Company, which the Russian Crown had granted a monopoly on operations in North America and the Pacific but was unable to back or support such claims.
You mean something like a third Reich?
You mean something like a third Reich?
Well, yeah. In very real ways WWII was about upending the post-WW1 order (which was punitive of Germany generally). It’s really interesting to understand how crazy the flows of money were, and how badly the US in particular bungled its role as the issuer of the world’s de facto reserve currency at the time- in the aftermath of WWI, Germany and its allies were made to pay reparations, France occupied the industrial territory on their border, and any money France or Belgium or Holland received in reparations promptly went to American banks, to repay war bonds borrowed to finance the fighting (which had, in turn, been spent in American factories on war materiel, weapons, munitions, etc).
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/12/the-real-story-of-how-america-became-an-economic-superpower/384034/ (sorry this is paywalled now, it was a really good read when it was available so I’ll summarize briefly)
By the end of the first world war, all of the belligerent nations’ economies were in tatters, their leadership were forced to inflate their currencies to make payments- but the US declined to inflate its own currency to make it workable for them- and when the US didn’t think about its new role in maintaining a viable world order, it put everyone that owed it anything in the position of paying their debts not in their own inflated currencies, but in US dollars. This essentially collapsed the German economy and its currency, and it was just unnecessary.
Near the end of the clip, the host of the program was quick to deflate Mikheyev’s comment as “wishful thinking” divorced from actual politics.
“Yes, but again, wishful thinking is one thing and actual politics is another,” the host said.
Gerashchenko, meanwhile, was less keen to write off the political scientist’s comments as fantasy.
I mean, glad to see that even some Russian propagandists expect some of their viewers to have functional brain cells.
Anyone taking this seriously should think again. Of course Russia isn’t going to invade the US, it would be suicide on too many levels to count. This is just posturing to tile up their own base, get people to still believe in the supposed might of mother Russia.
It’s the same bullshit coming from the Republican party as well
Why do people insist on partisan rhetoric? Your point could have been made better without the constant, cliche, stereotypical anti-Republican partisan rhetoric that you find in every comment about everything.
probably because republicans also do very similar things. Just look at the recent CPAC and it’s mess of “we’re going to overthrow democracy and instantiate a christian nation”
Because Republicans have all but sold their souls to Putin, perhaps? At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans suggest selling Alaska to Russia because it’s in US interests, somehow.
And of course that wouldn’t happen, it’s all base riling posturing but that is the point.
“I want the Russian empire with Alaska, Hawaii, California, Finland, and Poland,” he said, as translated by Gerashchenko for the clip he shared. “Although Poland and Finland are so stinky, I’m not sure, to be honest. We’ll clean them.”
This guy sounds exactly like Donald Trump.
If you say so, then Trump is USSA’s Putin.
The orange menace would be only too happy to oblige Putin’s every whim, after all, he is one of Trump’s main dictator heroes.
Protecting the Russian speakers right?
They should start with Georgia, Tennessee, and Louisiana. The red necks would grab every gun they have , be the shit show of the century.
Russia doesn’t have the naval, air, and amphibious forces required to do an invasion of the US to the point that they’d be fighting a land war in the first place. Doing that entails winning naval and air control adequate to move amphibious forces in.
This article is from a while back, but has a guy at Jane’s assessing that the aggregate militaries of the world wouldn’t be sufficient.
I don’t think most countries have invested in “projecting” power very far. I do agree there probably isn’t logistics enough anywhere to handle it. However, if you start with Mexico and build your armies over years, and somehow US doesn’t notice or doesn’t intervene, now you have a land war
No they wouldn’t. Because the Orange Turd would tell them that it’s okay and to just go with it.
i fully disagree. they would for 2 reasons:
the rednecks wouldn’t put up with some foreign nation showing up in the south
and
Trump would just turn around and claim that he didn’t want this and ask the rednecks to get involved.
or another way to put this
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Except for Atlanta, those states are currently welcoming Russian control with open arms
“So we get to pick up arms and kill anyone we like?”
“As long as they’re Russian forces, yes.”
“And we won’t get in trouble for that?”
“No. This situation is precisely why 2A exists. It’s very clear.”
“Ooooooh, now I get it.”
How many states do the Republicans control again?
MFW I’m waiting to see which set of oligarchs wins control of the country.
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The people in Oregon who talk like that and the people in Oregon who drink IPAs are two distinct circles that don’t overlap
I suspect WA’s the same
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The person would also need to be pro-Russia.
A big part of belonging to a cult is acting out the communal lie. It’s a way to signal inclusion despite being antithetical to reality.
