I’ve finished 3 fallout games but fortunately don’t remember any of it well enough for any of this to mean anything to me so I can just enjoy the show.
Same… but the caveat for me. I remember the gameplay and main story of each game…i can’t for the life of me remember any of the flavor text/ world text… so little details that the series gets wrong will likely not erk me like other shows have in the past.
I’m only a couple episodes in at the moment though… who knows, watching might spark all sorts of memories.
This person has zero IMDB credits. Call me after making literally anything even remotely approaching the quality of anything Bethesda has ever sneezed out.
Does he maybe have some semblance of a point about NCR and New Vegas? Sure, but if that makes it a ‘bad show’ that ‘no one will watch’, please let me point you at Star Wars, which jettisoned its own extremely substantial extended universe to the chagrin of long time fans and is doing fine.
Can’t you just, like, look at it like anime or like Douglas Adams?
Yes, we get multiple iterations of more or less the same story in different mediums. No, they aren’t exactly the same. Is that a problem? Does the Ranma 1/2 TV series have to match the OVH or they’re both shit?
Do I have to choose only the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide books, or the radio series, or the show, or the movie? Am I not allowed to enjoy them all?
Is it really more economically viable to make a living being an entitled and cynical jackass about other people’s work than to go make your own?
The show is not high art. No one will be winning an Emmy for acting. It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games.
If you’re expecting a Last of Us calibre deep dive into society and the human condition coping with an apocalypse, you’ll be disappointed. If you’re expecting a fun romp through the wastelands with body parts gratuitously exploding into red mist, then look no farther!
The Ghoul definitely picked Bloody Mess as one of his perks.
One of us! One of us!
Best review I’ve seen so far
Without having seen the series I’m guessing yours is probably the most accurate descriptor I’ve seen so far.
Whenever it comes to fandoms like this, the camps are always so divided in extremes. And neither camp is usually correct.
I mean, I saw Twisted Metal season 1 and it was not good by means an “actual reviewer” would stand by. But was it enjoyable? Sure. (Probably more so if I was high while watching it.) Will it be remembered? Not by a long shot.
The Fallout TV Show is likely better than TM, but I doubt it will remembered alongside Breaking Bad, The Sopranos or even Futurama for that matter.
It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games
Which is it? because an entertaining engaging, visually stimulating show which is also a fantastic adaptation of its source material should have a good rating
I’ve basically given up on ratings and threads about ratings because every idiot thinking they sound bright, reduce everything to either “best ever, Jebus herself couldn’t make it better” or “dog shit that will make you pray for cancer to take your disappointment away”
PS: not referring to you (person I’m replying to) when taking about idiots that polarize everything… Referring in general to polarizers (that’s a word, right?)
I couldn’t wade through the first episode of the Last of Us. I watched this entire thing in one sitting and have now seen most of it twice. It deserves a decent score on RT.
New Vegas is the best of the modern Fallout games, but toxic elements in its fan base are making me enjoy the game less and less each year. We should stop giving them the time of day.
The show is great, and these people are just fishing for nonsense to feed their persecution complex.
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I enjoyed the show. Even my wife who doesn’t like these types of shows enjoyed it mostly besides the gore. She liked the different perspectives from the main characters
Weird. I really enjoyed it. Loved the characters, liked the story, and all the little nods to the games and fandom were nice and didn’t feel out of place. Probably one of the better adaptations I’ve seen.
Same. Ragebait headline.
Maybe the title was changed after posting, but it’s more reasonable on the actual article
“A bad TV show no one will remember in 3 months…”: Some Fallout Fans are Gatekeeping Pretty Hard after New Vegas Revelations and Retcons Send Them Over the Edge
it got better halfway through or so (as a person who never played the games) but really had to just go with the ridiculousness of the world.
I’m glad they kept the ridiculousness. They could have made it super serious and edgy, and I don’t think it would have fit as well.
yeah. once I treated it as more a fantasy show and less a scifi it greatly improved my experience.
Cold takes from crybabies.
The title/headline is purely for engagement, right? It has to be.
I haven’t seen it yet but I haven’t heard a single negative thing about the show yet. Only praise and lots of “it’s way better than I expected”
I finished watching it yesterday. Personally, I loved it and this is the first negative thing I’ve heard about it.
Tbh the way some people dote on this show makes it a little intimidating to throw out a criticism.
It’s not bad, and I’ll certainly watch the whole thing, but as of the first two episodes I’m hovering around a 5-6/10.
I fully expect to be utterly whelmed by it.
Honestly as long as it’s entertaining me, it doesn’t need to be the best show to ever exist. I don’t love The Fift Element because it’s high cinema. I love it because it’s fun.
I’m a franchise loyalist and I am so, so, so past caring about this New Vegas shit. There’s no guarantees that New Vegas isn’t in despair off an external shot. And even if it is, I’m interested in hearing how it goes.
The show was great.
Gamers are so fucking weird. Really enjoyed the show. Hope they make 2nd season.
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Yeah this is the first I’ve heard of it being bad. Everywhere else, I’ve read it’s pretty good.
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not so bad that Fallout fans won’t stick with it for butchering the IP.
Todd already beat them to the punch on that account.
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@0xtero @delitomatoes same here but I guess it rakes the clicks in.
Old fart FO player since the very first btw.
This is a great TV adaptation of a game (that isn’t exactly known for it’s “great” story writing as well)
I hate to say this, but it’s almost better at Fallout than Fallout.
Best thing in the show was the mistery of vault 31 and the solution was extremely underwhelming. I think people just need time to digest. I hate Maximus.
They should have made one more episode to where after she gets out, they explain some of the factions, the monetary system, and where in the Wasteland they are. All in all, I liked it and can’t wait until season 2.
On the Prime Fallout site, they have a bunch of extras and bonus content that explains a lot of the background stuff like that. It’s kind of neat. You should check it out.
Its a great show and Im enjoying it despite the massive, glaring world consistency issues.
Like what the hell happened to the NCR?Or, you know, the lore of all of the games outside of Fallout 3 and 4.
Its painfully clear that Todd is salty that the worst two games in the fallout series are 3 and 4. So he’s erasing the pre bethesda games and the best game(that respects the original lore), New Vegas.
So… I keep seeing people say this online.
I assume they’re saying it before they finished watching the whole season. Because they do explain what happened to the NCR and explicitly acknowledge New Vegas in at least two very significant ways.
Getting rid of the NCR is ludicrous and is blatantly just Bethesda diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda.
3 and 4 are the worst stories in the series. Yet Bethesda seems intent on making them the main stories.
I am dreading seeing how they incorporate New Vegas given what they did to the NCR. I would rather that they not even touch it at this point
Yeah, so… no, that’s fanboy stuff. That’s not how massive corporations make their decisions, not how artists make their decisions and, very specifically, not what is actually in the show.
Plus of course what you’re saying is different to the online panic about NV “not being canon”, which Bethesda has now explicitly denied. The NCR very much exists in the show, it’s just been significantly downsized to early Fallout levels. Not because Bethesda is “diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda”, though. If I had to make an educated guess based on how reality actually operates, I’d assume it’s because Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan wanted to make a show about a postapocalyptic wasteland and having a democratic government that has been running mostly fine for the past 100 years kinda gets in the way of that.
So yeah, welcome to franchising, where war never changes and neither does the status quo. It’s mostly absurd that people in Fallout are still roaming around in reclaimed pre-war gear and doing the Mad Max schtick five generations into the postapocalypse, but Fallout gotta look like Fallout, so Fallout will look like Fallout until Fallout stops making money, at which point it will not look like anything anymore. Yay capitalism.
Hey, wanna know what they’ll do to New Vegas? They’ll probably do some variation on the plot of New Vegas. Mr. House and the Legion will probably still be around in some form despite it not making a ton of sense in continuity. Just like this season was all about leaving a vault to look for your missing dad, just like Filly just happens to have the same layout and landmarks as Megaton, just like there’s a Dogmeat and just like Vault 33 now needs a water chip and will probably have to send someone outside to look for it. Because it’s recognizable IP and recognizable IP has to be in the show so it can be fueled by recognizable IP.
Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.
Not one bit.
Edit: to explain further would contain massive spoilers.
I know what they are.
Trick is it directly counteracts the games. In the year the show happens is the same year new vegas happens. This is after the brotherhood was reduced to cowering in a hidden bunker with zero force projection capability.
The show is great, but its Bethesda fallout, not Fallout.
No it isn’t. The show is happening in 2296, 11 years after FO4 (2285). FNV takes place in 2281.
That makes it worse.
The western Brotherhood of Steel, at the start of new Vegas, is reduced to One Chapter holed up in One tiny bunker with no vertibirds, no supplies, no manufacturing. They have to send lone scavengers out in the cover of night just to steal enough food to survive.
The battle of Helios One ended the brotherhood as a major player in any capacity. They threw everything they had at the NCR and lost badly.
And you can’t think of them building back up (even one major chapter), with the help of other Brotherhood chapters, in the fifteen years afterwards?
That’s a failure of your imagination, buddy, not a shortcoming of the show.
I agree, it’s not very good.
