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I know some of their hardware also sucks for the people saying that. I’ve had a share of crappy logitech stuff that kind of pissed me off. But, I love my MX master 3. I use it for work, it is so fun to wind your finger up and scroll downward on whatever long winded scroll able item you may happen upon. I had it for 2.5 years, it’s still trucking, I feel like I only charged it 4 times. It’s truly awesome.
I mostly love mine.
I hate that I had to get IT to download special logitech software to my workstation so I could make the horizontal scroll not be backwards.
G Hub is so incredibly bloated that the load time is in the same tier as MS Teams, the new Steam, Windows, and Cities Skylines II. It’s also incredibly unreliable, working less often than other notoriously unreliable apps such as Outlook.
Every Logitech mouse I’ve owned has failed mechanically.
I wrote them off after the middle click button failed on me on two separate Logitech mice (a G502 and G602). I’ve had better luck with cheap generic chinese gaming mice, so that’s what I use now.
Ugh, my 602 middle click is starting to go out at work. I have a 604 at home and it’s just not the same
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The volume of Deathadder mice my brothers, I and our friends went through when younger due to double clicks and scroll wheel issues was absurd.
I’ve had my Superlight since their release, used every day for work and many nights gaming. No issues so far.
Seems like they either have inconsistent quality or it went down over time. My 6-7 years old g502 is from a mechanical standpoint in perfect shape, I’ve just worn out the rubber sides and had to replace its feet once. I’d even say it’s seeing fairly heavy use considering I use it for both work and gaming.
The keyboard macro software is basically unusable. Also, my $200+ keyboard only has 5 programable buttons? It’s the 2020’s my dudes. My Razer keyboard from 2010 can remap every key. I was also excited when I heard there was a new version of razers macro software, after suffering through their old one from 10+ years ago for so long. I promptly uninstalled the new one and reinstalled the old one after about 5 minutes. Less functionality and harder to use.
The plastic protection adhesive on the 920 series of cameras used to be awful.
I had to resolder the switches on my G Pro Wireless. I absolutely love the mouse but they use pretty much the cheapest Omron switches they can, unless that’s changed recently.
Was surprisingly not terrible to take apart and reassemble but you do have to pull off the adhesive-applied low-friction sliders at the bottom, so I would recommend buying replacement ones if you find yourself in that situation. Doesn’t help that I also had a $150 mousepad that goes with it that’s proprietary to specific Logitech gaming mice.
For what it’s worth I only did it because I absolutely love the mouse and setup; I love the design and weight plus the convenience of a low-latency wireless mouse that literally never runs out of battery.
Are there any hardware manufacturers who write good software?
It depends what you call good, but Apple software is usually good, if you agree with their overall approach and philosophy of walled garden.
The Apple mouse is one of the most infuriating pieces of technology I have ever used.
You’re referring to hardware here.
In terms of hardware: The Apple trackpad is fucking amazing. The Apple Magic Mouse is just fucked.
People always say this but I find their software really annoying to use.
Which is their philosophy that you have problems with.
I haven’t used any Logitech gear in a few years, so things may have changed, but after running iCUE…Logitech can’t possibly be that bad, right?
Logitech’s software is at least better than Razer’s. Although it’s not a high bar.
Razer angers me. I have a keyboard i bought in 2013 that has features like programmable keys and macros locked behind an online service i refuse to sign up for. Ridiculous. I don’t get to use the things i bought it for. To its credit it though the hardware is solid, and my keyboard refuses to die so i still have it, the perfectly working and unworn keycaps mocking my cheap nature who refuses to spend money when my current keyboard works.
At this rate ill have to gift it to my nephew when he gets old enough for me to finally have an excuse to get a new one. Goddamnit Razer
iCUE would stop my webpages from loading for the longest time, and i had no idea why. I tried so many other things and never even considered iCUE to be the culprit of my extremely slow web surfing.
it wasn’t until a friend suggested I delete iCUE that my computer began running like brand new… it was literally a night and day experience. there’s no point to my story, other than echoing how horrible iCUE is
VKB. Their configuration software is intimidating at first glance (and you better RTFM!), but it’s super powerful and allows you to change and tune absolutely everything. Plus the settings are stored in the device so you only need to run the configurator when you want to change something. This is what you get when engineers run the company, not marketing, and they respect the end user’s intelligence.
I literally only use hardware saved profiles to avoid loading their shitty software 24/7
Wish that was an option on the Mx ergo
What is this meme? Logitech hardware sucks ass too
It’s crazy to think that Logitech still doesn’t sell any USB C dongle for their mice even though there’s such a high demand.
Incredible meme. No notes.
That should either be reversed, or the bottom equalized…
I have personally RMAed 3 mouses for double click issues and replaced the switches in my current mouse. Hardware is bad.
Yep, they have a problem with the micro-switches. I’ve RMAed 2 of them for the same reason. I replaced a 3rd with some no-name Chinese mouse before it could fail on me.
Their hardware is also garbage. My MX Anywhere 3 lasted only two years. I had no brand Chinese mice that lasted longer.
In general their mice are weirdly perverse in the way they fail. I’ve never seen one fail in any way besides the buttons, usually failing into double-clicking. Like it feels like they would last super-long if they just used better components for the buttons. The mousewheel has never failed on me, the radio has never failed on me, the main sensor has never failed on me, nor the laser… just the clicky buttons.
Really? I still use one from 2014
Am on my second 502, the first one lasted until this year, from the release year. Phenomenal hardware. The only dud by them I had in the past 25 years were my current keyboard, the G512, that developed near-instant chatter.
I’m on my second one of their trackball mice in 8 years, and the first one only failed because I hit it too hard getting frustrated at a videogame. My G915 mechanical keyboard is going strong at 3 years old now, and my brother even left it upside down in a puddle once. I really don’t get all these accessories of failing Logitech hardware.
As a ounterpoint, I got a Logitech g700 a bajillion years ago that lasted thru my wow years iirc 2010-2018 and after that, it had a button problem where the left mouse button kept double clicking on its own, i sent a letter asking logitech how i could fix it and they sent me a g700s (the newer version) for free, that i am using right this second.
The scroll wheel button is a little loose but otherwise it’s solid as hell.
But the software is actual bullshit that is not that intuitive and stops working randomly.
I forgive them. I dunno if they’ve fallen in quality since then however, which would really be a fucking shame cuz with my experience id recommend their hardware over many others.
My G700 just started having double click issues recently, after almost 12 years of heavy use. Debated disassembling it and replacing the switch, but it’s so worn out, especially the scroll wheel, that I decided to search for a replacement mouse instead, as I couldn’t find any new G700 or G700S in stores any more.
I really wanted a mouse with plenty of side buttons, so I replaced it with a Razer Naga V2 Pro with the 6-button side panel, which I really like so far (I was skeptical at first). Only thing I really miss is the Logitech “Infinite Scroll” zero friction scrolling.
I get the feeling their hardware quality is dropping fast. The old stuff was great.
My old MX Anywhere 2 survived four years of abuse before getting the double click issue, I’ve been using my G533 headset almost every day for five years now and it’s still going strong, but the “top of the line” mouse I bought two years ago is already dead.
The buttons on the G700s will also pop eventually. I recommend you learn how to take it apart and replace the switches before they go bad.
The G700s is kind of a pain to disassemble (and there’s a mod to make it easier to assemble and disassemble for the future).
The only thing close to a successor to that mouse is a G604, and not only did it get discontinued in a very short time frame, but it also has cheap switches. My G700s started double clicking after several years of use (I’d like to say 5?) but my G604 started double clicking after like two years. And let me tell you, yes you don’t need to mod it to make the insides more accessible, but the inside is much more annoying to navigate. Several different screw lengths and sizes, a lot of unintuitive plastic interlocking parts, as opposed to two stacked PCBs in the G700/G700s.
I’ve swapped the switches on both with switches made by Kailh that are supposedly much longer lasting. The G604 is basically perfect from a layout perspective (the rubber wears out much faster than the hard textured shell of a G700/G700s though, which I don’t like. I’ve superglued it back into place where it peeled, but really, it’s a shame how even Logitech makes things this low quality now. It’s both good and disappointing that the fixes are very easy, because yes you can fix them, but why the hell is that a point of failure in the first place?
The software was shit and it only got worse. So, you know. No notes there. Praying on my hands and knees for something like QMK to pop up that we can flash all our mice with once and for all.
sweats in 1 yr 10 mos of ownership What happened to it?
I’m only a few months in 😬
The left button trigger broke. I couldn’t drag and click anymore.
Same thing happened with my MX Anywhere 2, but at least that one lasted four years.
Logitech is getting shittier…
Capitalism happened. Designed to fail.
EVGA hardware sucks balls
Corsair hardware sucks balls
Razor hardware sucks balls
Logitech hardware sucks balls
Oddly enough, the only mouse that I’ve NEVER had issues with is a 5$ chinese MMO mouse with zero software or ‘fancy crap’ embedded. It just works. That mouse is now $50 for some reason.
Yes, some mid-low random mice can run for 10+ years, I had a couple. But on average they break much more frequently, and you have no guarantee to repair\replace them given by a producer\shop, that I also used when bought branded devices and was pretty happy with them returning money or giving me another one without much delays. You can afford up to 10 $5 mice before you get to the real treasure without stepping over a $50 mark, right, and it may become a frugal hobby, sometimes becoming into a hardware reselling game. But the gambling aspect, risky uncertainty is not for everyone, especially if we are talking something expensive like v-cards - in modern times, with integrated gfx having no problem supporting popular MMOs, those who still buy them really need them for some reason and getting them melt on the go is either a deep frustration or troubles at work, with hobbies. I, for once, can’t afford to replace mine with prices still going crazy, even if it’s 2-3 times cheaper than the pricey one, and still don’t find a reason even though it’s not as shiny as it was years ago. Comfort is a product too, and sometimes it’s not just a facade.
Have to disagree on EVGA. I’ve purchased a lot of their hardware and any time I had an issue their support and RMAs were great. I’m really sad they got out of the video card business.
You disagree that they have hardware issues because they handled your return well when you had… hardware issues?
I have had probably 5 of their video cards and 4 or 5 of their power supplies. I’ve had one video card die a month before the 3 year warranty was up, and they sent me a much more powerful card as a replacement. That’s good service.
I’ve had one power supply die and they cross shipped me a replacement, had it 3 days later.
Nothing is bulletproof, components fail. It’s how the company handles it that matters, to me.
That means they have good customer service, but surely you see that every example is more data for the OPs claim that the hardware isn’t up to snuff yeah?
No, I don’t agree. What would a list of companies that never have hardware issues with their products look like? Spoiler alert, it would be a blank sheet of paper. Every company that makes electronics hardware has some level of defects. Perfection is an impossible standard to reach economically, and nothing lasts forever. If you have been lucky to not have hardware problems from a particular vendor, then that’s it, just luck.
I’ve worked with enterprise network and server hardware for over 25 years now. Dell, HP, IBM, NetApp, EMC, Cisco, name any major tech hardware player and I’ve replaced their broken equipment in a datacenter. And all that equipment is (supposedly) built to a higher standard than consumer grade hardware. It still fails. Some companies handle that in a way that benefits the customer. Most don’t. EVGA has always done it right that I’ve seen, so I have to give them props. Everything I ever bought from EVGA (or its RMA’d replacement) is still running in my house. Nothing has yet failed out of warranty in at least 10 years of buying their stuff. I’d call that a good track record.
EVGA is THE WORST imo
My 5dollarjunky mouse is running on 8 years now.
During those 8 years I attempted upgrades. I have 2 broken razor mine that won’t left click constantly.
I have 3 EVGA x15 mice that won’t stay connected. Issue persists on multiple computers and is seemingly random. I bought 1, and they sent me replacements twice.
I went back to my cheap Chinese mouse as a result.
I keep the garbage as a reminder to not buy those companies stuff.only thing I give EVGA credit for is their video cards. Amazing quality.
You got me there, I’ve never used one of their mice. I didn’t even know they made them. I have only purchased video cards and power supplies from them, and haven’t ever been disappointed. But no company always gets it right. Maybe they should stick to the things they’re good at!
Evga makes baller PSUs as well
I do give them credit for non accessory hardware. Amazing psu and video cards, accessories, trash.
Thanks, ill keep that in mind
Agreed, I only use them or Seasonic, and it’s been a long time since I bought a Seasonic.
I believe they are actually rebranded seasonic PSUs (which isn’t uncommon for other brands as well)
Oh aye? Is that a recent development? I got mine right when the news as their leaving the GPU market broke (i liked the things commenters were saying about their quality). Mine is labeled evga still so i didn’t know this.
Nah I think at least some of their PSUs have been Seasonic for a long time.
Apparently at least some of the higher end Corsair PSUs are also Seasonic.
I have to say i own a decent amount of Corsair hardware (kb+m, RAM, SSD and PSU), and none has ever given me an issue. Most of it I got a few years back so maybe that was before they declined?
Compared to Razer, where I’ve owned 3 mice and all of them failed one way or another. Decent keyboards though.
FYI many of Corsair’s PSUs are just their branding slapped on a different company’s part (made for them obviously), so some are okay to good, and some are trash
Edit: To be clear I use a ton of Corsair products (RAM, AiO, KB+M, Case, Fans) so not shitting on them, though their software is absolute dog shit tier. iCue will randomly disappear from my system every so often, only for all the files to still be there…but no executable.
Most of their products are produced in places like China but their RAM is still produced in Taiwan and high quality
Yes I did a decent amount of research on their PSUs, I managed to get one with a pretty solid reputation.
And I’m on Linux and use a community made software suite called CKB-Next, so I haven’t had to deal with iCue in a couple years thankfully
Definitely capitalism. These companies are under constant pressure from shareholders to increase profits year over year.
Once they can’t increase profits by growing the market share anymore, they increase it by making their products shittier.
Catastrophe
On the other hand, I have Logitech keyboards and mice that I bought more than a decade ago still going strong
I’m extremely satisfied with my logitech mx master 3, the magnetic wheel is fucking amazing, but this is just my personal opinion, I haven’t exhaustively tested many other logitech devices
i wish there was an enthusiast custom mouse segment of the market like there is for mechKBs.
then we could simply build our own.
Aside from certain mice, office keyboards and video conferencing stuff, Logitech is trash. Especially when it comes to flight sim and simracing hardware.
Their conferencing equipment is great. I work in that industry and I’m always happy to see Logitech specced over Cisco/crestron
Our office uses the MX 3S combo and I hated the mouse at first but now I really like it for CAD work. I just emailed our rep this morning to see if I could get a discount for my WFH setup (my boss said they might just send me a free one if I ask lol)
I loved my G35/G500 a decade ago but I have no interest in Logitech for my personal system anymore. Their “gaming” hardware blows nowadays
Also - their office peripheral software (Options+) is pretty good. You can configure your stuff and then uninstall it as it’s saved to the onboard memory
