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How to make food deserts 101
Surprise - They were planning to abandon it from the beginning!
Why would a business abandon a profitable location?
You’re assuming it was profitable to begin with.
Many corporations move in with a reduced rate, encourage people to shift their habits and drive out competition, then raise their prices to a profitable level.
What happens when that profitable level was never tenable from the get go?
yes i did
I see people stealing food all the time at my work, I just give them a nod and mind my own fuckin business, I just want to go home.
believe it or not, but i have absolutely 0 Problems with that. If you wanna do that, then please do it.
But i won’t do the same.
The Kroger Company thanks you. They wouldn’t have made that $150 billion revenue without someone like you stopping a hungry man from stealing a loaf of bread.
well, isn’t that nice of them?
Tell them i said hi.
Why would I do that? They don’t care that you exist. It was the sort of thank you they put up on a sign at the exit.
Watch out boys, we got a narc here
u wouldn’t understand since u survive entirely on what u lick of corporate boots
I’m not in a position to tell if someone can afford to eat. They might look like they’re employed or be dressed expensively, but people can fall on hard times suddenly
So I’m not going to report anyone for anything except crimes against individuals
Thats what food banks are for. Theft is illegal and unethical.
On a grand scale: That’s what states are for. On a personal scale: If states let people go hungry, don’t make their life harder than it already is, don’t be an asshole.
how is stealing from a corporation unethical exactly.
What if they are stealing from a mom and pop farmers market?
i presume u are admitting that stealing from a corporation is ethical then?
Letting people starve is worse, throwing food and faking shortages to raise prices should be punished by death.
I agree as long as the death part is a joke
The only way you think stealing to live is unethical is if you value property more than life.
In modern society, stealing is almost never “to live”, and even when it is, there are many other options to get food.
Also, stealing is unethical either way, the question is whether that unethical action can be morally justified in the balance (due to the alternative being more objectionable).
Yes stealing food is unethical. If someone steals your food you should take it right back off them.
That’s why I do all my shoplifting at the duopoly stores that are currently under government investigation for wage theft and price gouging… and not the community grocer who isn’t stealing from the public.
Let’s see… I’m starving and impoverished. I could steal some fresh, nutritious food or I could go to the food bank and have an expired can of creamed corn.
You’re right, food bank.
You can forage food for free.
Do tell me where to forage food in February in the Midwest.
It’s the end of April.
It’s always April? Like, always?
And?
Choosing beggar hypothetical.
Hypothetical? I take it you’ve never gotten food from a food bank.
Sounds a lot like projection… How many times have you gotten food from a food bank? Very curious to know 🙂
Let me go check my ‘how many times in my life have I eaten food from a food bank’ tally to make sure I have an accurate count and get back to you.
Ahh so you will avoid the question. Good one buddy
Have you? Every food bank I’ve been to has given fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables.
I agree with the titties.
All glory to the hypno tits!
I didn’t what ?
Yep not my circus not my monkeys
AA?
If I saw someone shoplifting anything I wouldn’t lol none my business
The right answer. You never know what people have on them. I personally don’t want to get shot or stabbed. Corporations have insurance, AND make enough profit for me to care.
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Yeah, I’ll start caring about shoplifting as soon as it becomes remotely the same magnitude of a problem as wage theft.
for as long as wage theft has been an unrecognized unremedied problem.
I might if they were bad at it, to try and help. I certainly wouldn’t snitch
Only time I’ll say something is a mom and pop store. Then the thief is being shitty. Go steal from a Walmart, not here.
usually but not always valid. still don’t snitch, Nazi death squads improve nothing.
Nah, man, I ain’t gonna let anyone steal even one of the .15c honey sticks my local candy shop sells
The old couple that run it are too sweet and caring to let even a modicum of bad shopper into their store without punishment
(Seriously how could you steal from people who just give extra quarter/half pounds of their homemade candy because they can, or get upset when a specific product they remember you like has run out and you have to get something else? It happens! Monsters.)
yeah I’d probably tell the kid doing it tgst this isn’t the place but I wouldn’t snitch. a 1.5c honey stick isn’t worth somebody getting shot.
I dunno. Oftentimes desperate people are more liable to steal from those stores than to steal from Walmart because the security is more lax. people like to say that, oh, Walmart builds it into their budgets, the theft, so they do nothing about it, but that’s totally false, there are plenty of instances where Walmart or whatever other shitass big box store will call the cops or try to detain you with their personal security. Not to say that people should rob local businesses over Walmart if they have the choice, right, but that’s why people might do it.
Only time I’d disagree with this is if it was a local family/co-op ran store. I couldn’t care less about the bottom line of a corporation
I ain’t seen shit. I don’t know nobody. Hell, I ain’t even there.
If they’re shoplifting, I’m shoplifting.
Its only fair.
Nobody disagrees.
What if they’re rich
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/middle-class-mum-shoplifting-m-s-b2451024.html
Yet, shoplifting happens more often in poor areas. I’m sure you can cherry-pick op-eds about middle class and even rich people doing it, but in reality, it’s mostly survival.
I guess you’re right, i forgot it’s mostly american here where small, family owned market did not exists, because american keep driving themselves into a corner.
The answer is still nope.
What if they’re landlord
Still nope.
middle class
rich
Lol. “Middle class” doesn’t exist anymore, it’s only a term used by out of touch politicians to refer to people who can maybe afford to go out to eat once a week.
To you maybe, guessing you don’t live somewhere that still has actual proper toffs
If you say so 🤨
Show me the middle class, please 😂
They’re all around me, the range rover that just drove past was driven by one
How do i even show you a group of people with certain amount of income, pie chart? 🤔
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Never snitch ever.
About 10 years ago there was this guy that killed his gf in my neighborhood. I heard the gunshot go off while watching the daily show and I just kept watching TV. It wasn’t my business to find out what was going on.
And do you think your neighborhood is a better place to live in now? Do you think the gf’s family agrees with your inaction as a social good?
I mean it is a better place. Gentrification and all.
LOL I am out of microblog memes, seems like too many people here (for my taste at least) coming up with excuses to entirely forgive crimes no matter the context.
That’s the point of microblogging. You don’t have to think about what you’re upvoting for any longer than it takes to read a sentence.
When you’re bootlicking, do you prefer the texture or taste of the boot? Or do you like both equally? Genuinely curious
It’s amazing how ironic and reactionary this is :)
So it’s really more about the humiliation. Gotcha. Well, I don’t kinkshame, so you do you lol
PS: i did call someone a bootlicker recently after their unwavaring support for Zionism and after about 3-4 months into discussions with them after they showed blind loyalty to Israel (a country they are not even from)
But you are calling me a “bootlicker” for refusing to “break Nazi’s arms unprovoked and at random encounters to ‘keep the community clean’” and because I suggested that inflicting trauma on Nazis might cause them to be even more radicalized and cause more harm to the world… or in the case of this post here, you are calling me a bootlicker for wanting to report people who don’t even look poor to the police for robbing my local grocery store… dude. These absolutes are so fucking dumb… “I will report all thefts no matter what” is just bad as an absolute as “I will not report any”.
The only two people in my life who were actively shoplifting never needed to. They did it to “game the system”. I should of course not take this personal experience and derive sweeping conclusions from it. What people need is proper social wellfare so that they never have to shoplift and you never have to make a point about not reporting them.
Anyway, what I’m saying is that you’d be better off not being reactionary in your responses. I don’t know you, you don’t know me, but I think of you did, you wouldn’t call me a bootlicker or whatever else.
Both sides bad hurrdurrrrduhhhh 🤡
Only if you consider '“both sides” to be pushed all the way to the extreme, I guess.
Then I am definetely in the wrong place.
devils advocate: what if that person stealing a sandwich turned out to be convicted murderer Robert Durst
On November 30, Durst was caught inside a Wegmans supermarket in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, after trying to shoplift Band-Aids, a newspaper, and a chicken salad sandwich, despite having $500 in cash in his pocket.
Then I sure as fuck don’t want to risk a confrontation with a murderer over a supermarket sandwich
no but seedo you not care about freedom?
The answer is a most definite nope.
Ok, if you see Robert Durst stealing a sandwich, report him immediately. Otherwise, don’t.
What if I see him murdering someone?
Give him a sandwhich?
Have we considered that maybe he murdered because he had low blood sugar?
give him two, he’ll have to do the murder with his feet til he finishes one. might give the victim the opportunity they need.
Okay but for all you know he could be murdering a child murderer
I am less inclined to confront an actual murderer. So my answer is nope and noper.
He wasn’t just stealing food. If someone needs food, you look the other way. But non-essentials? That’s a different story.
A sandwich feeds you for half a day, a gucci bag can feed someone for a week. Or at least enable someone to buy other essentials like diapers that are much harder to steal.
a gucci bag can feed someone for a week
Hard disagree. Shoes would taste better.
I’d be much less inclinded to get involved with a murderer
None of these companies are worried about me when they jack their prices up while people are struggling. I don’t know why I would ever give a shit about them. I’m just here to buy moisturizer and stay in my lane.
Here is some of the Loblaws grocery store markup that was leaked.
The figures in the screenshot are too small to see clearly; not wanting to be “that guy” who just says so and buggers off, I found an article that has the full-size copy of each page: https://thedeepdive.ca/selling-butter-at-54-profit-leaked-docs-show-loblaws-exorbitant-markups/
Bless you.
Look at Mr Moneybags over here, buying moisturizer.
Leredditor joke
Theft does make prices go up though, you know? It also makes stores close in underserved communities.
See you’re assuming they wouldn’t jack up the prices even without theft, as someone who studied business it’s literally taught to see how far you can push before the breaking point. line go up. It does suck in undeserved communities but there’s not much we can do, people in those communities often vote against their best interest.
The breaking point, though, is the point when consumers will look to alternatives, e.g. a different store. As long as there are other options available, competition does usually do a decent job of keeping prices down.
And companies in a free market would never, ever collude to keep prices high in the face of that very competition you think will keep prices down, right? In fact that’s exactly what we’re seeing right now, is prices being kept down by the absolutely healthy competition in the Canadian grocery market, right?
Look collusion is a thing, but it’s illegal. Grocery stores, even the big chains in the US anyways are pretty cutthroat, they aren’t making huge profits they’re fighting to survive vs Amazon and the like. Anyways my point is that the claim that costs don’t affect prices (and therefore losses from theft don’t affect prices) is just silly.
if the community couldn’t afford it, they were being exploited not served. dont pretend these people are being supported by these corporations.
if the prices go up, you should steal too. market pressures, babe.
if this isnt sustainable, then let’s build guillotines and do something else.
Prices go up regardless of wage increases or thefts. Prices are coupled with only one thing and that is corporate greed.
It also makes stores close in underserved communities.
That is corporate PR bullshit that you swallowed hook, line and sinker.
I read through the article and I agree that it is wrong for Target and other companies to blame crime for underperformance when crime isn’t the real culprit. But that was an example involving 9 stores. There are tons of examples of stores closing citing crime if you search for it. I think it’s unhelpful to hand wave all of them away as PR.
Cool, still not my problem. They can hire people to care about it, I’m not ratting people out. And let’s be real, a lot of those companies lie and blame theft for higher prices and store closures and then it turns out they’re actually full of crap. Target got caught doing that like 5 minutes ago.
Not my circus, not my problem.
Stock shrinkage is expected and baked into the markup you are paying.
So I guess your saying since stopping one theft from happening won’t significantly change that markup, you should not even try to stop theft (even if bringing down prices is a good thing for poor people who don’t steal). But by that same logic, why bother trying to reduce your carbon footprint? I mean look, if I see someone walking out of the grocery store with food I’m not gonna say anything. But I wouldn’t extent that to retail theft in general.
Easy, one is about survival of the planet and species. The other is not giving a damn about an organization that is insured for that exact purpose.
Also, there is no “bringing down prices” they’re, at best, going to just keep increasing a bit slower.
That is true.
