• @[email protected]
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    Microsoft, an early example of enshittification. I read about the pay-to-play nickel and diming of security logs to cloud providers. Logs which would help identify intrusions. Theres just been so many examples of security failuers that highlight the company knows its embedded status within the US govt, and knows it can do less for more.

  • Phoenixz
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    151 year ago

    Which then raises the question: why isn’t the US using open source software everywhere, paying the same -or very likely - much less to maintain and expand said software? Can you imagine the money stream towards thousands of devs fixing any (but, feature or security) issue, which they would already do for free? Finally some recognition and so on.

    Finally they’d have software that they can trust and rely upon, it’ll kill one huge company and spawn hundreds of smaller companies. Win-win all around

    • Bahnd Rollard
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      51 year ago

      If its anything like the private sector its a mostly a liability thing. If something is wrong with the program, you can sue the vendor. With open source… Thats a lot harder to do. Large groups wont use the thing if you cant put the blame on someone else when it breaks.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      Because there is seldom a good replacement for the majority of software that enterprises use.

      • lemmyvore
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        51 year ago

        An administration that were really looking to liberate itself of proprietary software and develop a sustainable policy would analyze its needs and look for software that matches them, not shape their needs around the proprietary software they’re already using.

        If you start by thinking “what software does things exactly the same as this one I’m using” of course you’ll never move on. Microsoft obfuscates their software on purpose so you can never find 100% compatible stuff.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          You’re living in a fantasy land. The software you’re referencing, largely doesn’t exist how a corporate environment utilizes it. Even just excel, the employees need it, you can’t teach someone 5 years from retirement a new spreadsheet program. Sure you could buy licenses from MS, but I bet if big organizations started doing it, they would stop. Or only sell the entire MS suite at some insane price. Adobe? Haha

      • @[email protected]
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        As much as I like FOSS it’s significantly harder to fund.

        With proprietary you keep the source code, ship the app, collect data & sell it, and charge for a premium /subscription. They then use that money to fund talented devs and give them deadlines to make good software.

        With FOSS it’s largely contribution work by people who work on it in their free time. They use donations or paying for enterprise support, and if they do add a subscription service / premium version you can just modify the code and get it for free.

        That’s largely why FOSS software is behind, what’s the direct incentive for someone to make it good?

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    Whoever uses Microsoft products should be aware from the start that security is a low priority for them. If you can accept the risk, fine. If you can’t, think about the consequences.

  • @[email protected]
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    71 year ago

    Let me explain…the same people that brought you windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, nt, XP, etc now want to obtain everything you type via an AI tool they created.

    They would know all your health history, everything you scan, your photos relating to family and work secrets, etc. for the corporate, they would know who from LinkedIn will get the job and who will be fired. They will know about layoffs and about business secrets and success. Etc.

    It’s pretty simple. Rather than just a keylogger, Microsoft wants you to use a smart keylogger that they control. How is that not the dumbest thing to ever use at work? It’s gotta be the biggest IT security failure ever.

  • Phoenixz
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    221 year ago

    Now for all governments in the world: install Linux already and get it over with. Cut your dependence on an abusive and crappy software vendor

  • @[email protected]
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    111 year ago

    I’d focus on enforcing standards and interoperability first, in a serious an highly punitive fashion for offenders.

    If you can read/write your spreadsheet using any spreadsheet tool or OS you’re half-way there and will’ve severely hampered the old embrace-extend-extinguish (it’s still a thing).

    • lemmyvore
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      Unfortunately the ISO certification process for office document formats was subverted by Microsoft to require their OOXML formats instead of the ODF (Open Document Format) that was being prepared for this role. And then they continued by not implementing the certified format correctly in Office anyway.

      As a result it’s virtually impossible for any law-abiding, taxpayer-answering government to argue for adopting ODF over OOXML

      It’s also impossible to find any other software that supports existing documents, because Microsoft introduces differences from the spec on purpose and any software that tries to stick to the official OOXML format can’t process them 100% correctly.

      Any government that wants to wean itself off Microsoft documents would have to first conduct an investigation, explain why ODF is the better format, demonstrate that Microsoft doesn’t follow their own spec, then accept the fact they’re gonna partially lose their existing documents if they move away, and only then they’d be able to start the process of looking for ODF-supporting software and companies, and convert their docs and processes.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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        31 year ago

        demonstrate that Microsoft doesn’t follow their own spec

        I genuinely feel bad for MS devs because of all of the garbage that they have to deal with because of scummy management and the Balmer years.

  • The Menemen!
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    231 year ago

    The US at least has some degree of control over Microsoft. How much worse is that the EU is still not developing an own OS/distro?

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        I am not talking about a OS for the general public, but specifically for the administration.

        And this will work much better with a unified attempt. If the EU would be taking OpenSuse for this, this would basically be the end of OpenSuses independence… I’d like it to be GNU/Linux based though.

    • @[email protected]
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      141 year ago

      There were grassroots movements like the Limux project (Munich using a custom Linux distribution). But that got shut down by Microsoft bribery (not confirmed, but MS did build a new headquarters in Munich…).

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        Yeah, that was a shame. But I really think we’d need a shared OS for all administration units of the EU (from EU level down to munipiality levels). Would be much easier as the private sector could also adjust to it.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Interview Microsoft has a shocking level of control over IT within the US federal government – so much so that former senior White House cyber policy director AJ Grotto thinks it’s fair to call Redmond’s recent security failures a national security issue.

    Grotto this week spoke with The Register in an interview you can watch below, in which he told us that exacting even slight concessions from Microsoft has been a major fight for the Feds.

    “If you go back to the SolarWinds episode from a few years ago … [Microsoft] was essentially up-selling logging capability to federal agencies” instead of making it the default, Grotto said.

    Grotto told us Microsoft had to be “dragged kicking and screaming” to provide logging capabilities to the government by default, and given the fact the mega-corp banked around $20 billion in revenue from security services last year, the concession was minimal at best.

    Add to that concerns over an Exchange Online intrusion by Chinese snoops, and another Microsoft security breach by Russian cyber operatives, both of which allowed spies to gain access to US government emails, and Grotto says it’s fair to classify Microsoft and its products as a national security concern.

    But what can be done to solve the problem when 85 percent of US government productivity software, by Grotto’s reckoning, and even more operating system share, belongs to Redmond?


    The original article contains 352 words, the summary contains 228 words. Saved 35%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Snot Flickerman
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    This is what the government gets to farming literally fucking everything out to third parties whose goal is profit instead of making government agencies that exist to do the same job whose goal is to serve the people.

    Like, no shit, Sherlock.

    • The Dark Lord ☑️
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      Right. This isn’t an issue with Microsoft, it’s an issue of getting a third party to do work when you have very different priorities. Microsoft’s priority is to make money, as all companies do. The governments priority is to have a safe and secure service. The two don’t match, so the government should have created and maintained a safe and secure service.

      The biggest issue is that people don’t want the government to over-spend on anything, so they don’t want the government to pay tech people tech salaries. So even if they did just do it themselves, you can’t trust it’s done by the best people because it’s only done by those who are willing to work at 30% of the pay.

      So the issue isn’t really with Microsoft, it’s with the government for not being aware of priorities, and not being willing to pay for what’s important.

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        you can’t trust it’s done by the best people because it’s only done by those who are willing to work at 30% of the pay.

        I dunno, I think I’d consider having enough scruples to care more about what you produce than how much you get paid to be “The Best.” Some of “The Best” programmers I have seen are fully on the Free Open Source Software bandwagon.

        Because I can’t trust that those who are profit-oriented are willing to bring “the best” without doing things exactly like in the article. “The Best” are busy nickel and diming you to death while hiding their best work from you. That’s not the best, that’s a selfish asshole who doesn’t give a flying fuck about the future of humanity, only themselves. That’s far from “The Best.” That’s just “Fuck you, got mine.”

        • JJROKCZ
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          Many of the best developers are doing free open source work yes, but many great developers can’t because they have bills to pay and mouths to feed and charity &/or government work doesn’t pay well enough for that

        • The Dark Lord ☑️
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          You’re not wrong. If I said anything that made it seem like those who get paid less are worse developers, that’s on me. But there are many who are amazing developers who can’t take a government job because the pay is too low. It seems odd to rule those people out. If we’re fighting for better pay for everyone, government jobs should set an example.

      • @[email protected]
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        421 year ago

        Government spending 101:
        Paying private sector rates? unnafordable!
        Paying a private company who pays their employees those same private sector rates plus a huge margin on top? totally reasonable!

        • Rentlar
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          Sorry that’s the lowest/only rate we got for tender, lol.

        • @[email protected]
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          Or: the only way we could get this crazy group of senators whose votes we need is by devising the program in such a convoluted and inefficient way such that it’s politically un-killable (read: SLS).

      • @[email protected]
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        If you give government more funding, the tech people salaries likely won’t change. Those of a few more bureaucrats will likely.

        But in case of such a long partnership like with MS it’s likely still better.

    • @[email protected]
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      The problem is EVERY org has that problem. Its a rules for rulers problem.

      The “people” are very far links in the chain of people that actually sign budgets and do the actual work for a lot of this. I even know people who switched from government to contracting with government because they felt like the incentives for the government side was to hire buerocrats and justify past choices and not actually help people.

      Like no doubt most privatization schemes are just fucked because they just privatized the government ass kissing and also sometimes because what kind of fucking market were hoping for in the first place.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        While this is bad, I think you’d prefer such a guy to a relative of someone important sitting there, and\or to somebody who schemed their way through bureaucratic institutions to be sitting there, or through acquaintances.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 year ago

          That’s the joke, no? You wouldn’t expect anyone to be able to bring their kids to work / nepotize into a top level pentagon meeting. Outright buying a seat on the other hand…

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    Its kind of funny to me that by pushing data harvesting of OS’s and office data then selling it to 3rd parties Microsoft has probably become the biggest security threat to the US government, maybe ever. And its all because the US refuses to pass basic consumer privacy protections.