• @[email protected]
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    I buy a lot of things for work and if I can find a company that has the price listed I go with them over the one that makes me contact sales for a quote almost every time

        • @[email protected]
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          101 year ago

          Sometimes you can blame the partnership agreement for that. Some manufacturers will have a MAP (minimum advertised price) and the distributor would be in violation of their contract if they showed it publicly.

          Though that just shifts to being a manufacturer problem with the same result. Just saying it may not be the distributor being weird about pricing.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s more about not rewarding their disrespect and greed. Instead rewarding the company being open and upfront and not wasting my time

        • Gormadt
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          101 year ago

          Exactly

          Reward the company that respects me enough to not waste my time

        • @[email protected]
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          61 year ago

          With office furniture it’s a little more common.

          They like that sweet and stupid startup money.

        • @[email protected]
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          191 year ago

          Timber merchants in the UK. The ones that don’t list prices are cheaper. Largely because they base their prices on the current price of wood. Those that advertised prices need a higher margin to tolerate fluctuations in the price of wood.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 year ago

          Just had one with atlantis. Straight up asked for the pricing of 17sqm delivered to metro melbourne.

          'Oooh it depends on faaaactors. Tell ya what, how 'bout i get one of our sales guys to call you and work out the best product solution"

          "Nope, 17sqm product xx, plus delivery to metro melbourne. That’s it’

          ‘Yes but factors

          Fucking bye Felicia

          • Null User Object
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            This could be a great use for a voice AI chat bot connected to your phone line. Prompt it with something like,

            “You’re on a phone call to [Widgets Inc] to get a price quote for a [box of premium widgets]. You’ll probably be put on hold to speak with the next available sales representative. Just wait until you get a person on the line. Then, ask for the price and immediately start negotiating for a better price. Use whatever strategy you want but never agree to whatever price they offer. Keep coming up with more ridiculous reasons that they should give you an even better price.”

            Then dial the phone, turn it over to the chat bot, and wander off to go do more important things.

        • Gormadt
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          151 year ago

          Especially considering that most of the time you’ll sit on hold which can be awhile

          If the company says “call” I ain’t even going to bother because my 30 minutes is more valuable to me than whatever price they could say 99.9% of the time

  • @[email protected]
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    561 year ago

    I moved last year. I looked into so many companies that drop off a box for later pickup. Only one of them (U-Haul) published their prices and they were very affordable.

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          41 year ago

          I agree, I pretty much won’t do “Contact Us for Pricing” unless it’s construction work or something, but man, have you seen the Uhaul moving box in person?
          It’s a wooden pallet with wobbly plywood walls and a tarp on it. It looks like something you’d see in a homeless camp.
          I’d do it again but damn, the price definitely matches the quality.

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        And when it arrives on your doorstep, you realize that you just rented a wooden pallet with wobbly plywood walls and a thick vinyl tarp over it 😂

        It looked like a hobo’s shack!

        I’d still choose them again due to cost but I was shocked at the actual product. Lead with the price indeed.

    • Howdy
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      101 year ago

      I have ADHD and even said the same thing seeing this.

    • Higgs boson
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      401 year ago

      Do we really need this comment on every fucking post? No one claimed the meme is a diagnostic criteria.

            • @[email protected]
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              161 year ago

              Not unique to ADHD, perhaps, but the added step is a bigger deal to those with ADHD. Having to stop what I’m doing to make a call makes it more likely that I won’t complete my original task. I have trouble completing tasks on a daily basis so needless interruptions like this make me feel more annoyed than would probably be considered reasonable by someone without ADHD .There’s also nothing that’s terribly unique to ADHD because our symptoms are things that happen to most non-adhd people occasionally turned up in frequency and severity to a debilitating degree.

  • @[email protected]
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    1511 year ago

    If you’d like to pay via PayPal, contact our sales team.

    For fuck’s sake, either you accept PayPal or you don’t. What kind of shady behind-the-curtains bullshit are you trying to pull?

    • @[email protected]
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      1291 year ago

      The API for the PayPal checkout workflow is too complicated for us, but one of us knows how to manually type in the order details to send you an invoice.

  • HubertManne
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    Yes. It infuriates me that members of my species keep these places in business. They should all be out of business since absolutely no one should be buying their unpriced shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      341 year ago

      Short of custom work, but even still, give me a “starting at” price so I know whether it’s worth my time to investigate.

      • @[email protected]
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        91 year ago

        I wanted to get a quote on a mini split, or ductless A/C, the HVAC company said they can send someone over to review the location and give me an estimate.

        I’m not asking for a full system, I literally just need an A/C drilled into my wall, there is no need for someone actually visit my home to give a guess.

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          It’s a balance, they might not know exactly what the job would entail until they send someone to look, and labour could double the price if it’s something ridiculous.

          However, they absolutely should be able to give a ballpark, and it drives me up the wall, especially when I’ve given enough details for them to do so.
          I hate it.
          If you won’t even tell me how many zeroes your service is going to cost, there is an absurdly high change you’re going to be wasting your engineer’s time doing a visit.

          “How much for a 12000 BTU on the ground floor with electrical already run?”
          “Well sir, we can’t give an accurate number yet, as we need to send someone out”
          “Not even a ballpark?” “I’m afraid not sir”

          Which led me to investigating what I could do myself…Turns out, they now make self-install units for about £600.
          Or Costco sell a better brand one including fitting for £1500.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 year ago

            Which is really all I want, minimum it’ll be 1500 bucks, maybe up to 3000 on the higher end.

          • JJROKCZ
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            21 year ago

            Three different HVAC companies wanted to charge me 5k plus for a second compressor to cool my second floor. I bought a $500 u-shape window unit from Amazon and have kept it perfect for 2 years now. Some of these hvac folks are on fucking drugs I swear

            • @[email protected]
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              Unless you’re just talking about a minisplit or something $5k is remarkably cheap for a full AC install. Theres a big difference between throwing a window unit in and having an actual AC unit installed. You can’t just slap a second compressor on an existing condenser. It would need a second condenser or an upgrade and second circuit run for your existing one, plus running refrigerant pipes, likely running new wiring, ventilation, controls, refeigerant costs and system tuning. A window AC unit isn’t even in the same ballpark as far as price goes.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          say you want the condenser unit placed on your roof or backyard. the routing would be completely different. Say you have an unfinished basement vs they have to remove and replace a shit ton of drywall. completely different. the unit itself is a static price. the conditions of installing the unit are a huge factor. is it on a drywall wall or are your walls all poured concrete?

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            Understandable, but really unless the price difference is going to be triple the minimum, I just want a general guess.

        • @[email protected]
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          141 year ago

          When somebody doesn’t want to give me a price, I’ve started asking them for an order of magnitude. Sometimes they still don’t want to say a number, but when I ask “is it 2$, 20$, 200$, 2k$, 20k$?” they will usually give me a ballpark, along with the factors that’ll make the price vary.

          • @[email protected]
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            41 year ago

            Sometimes you have to shame a person by insulting the number. Starting out at $2 and going up to an absurd 200k really just illustrates how wide of a range they leave open. Just give me a jumping off point. If you can’t, someone else can.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          There is a lot of info they need that frankly you can’t trust the average client to accurately give over the phone. They need to know what your walls are made of, are they concrete, brick, wood or metal stud? Are they going to need masonry tools? What is the interior wall material; asbestos reinforced plaster is still not uncommon in older houses and if they’re working with that the the price goes up dramatically? Is there electricity run to that location already or will they need a new circuit? If there is electricity run to that location does the existing circuit have capacity to handle the load? Is there even available space to mount the new unit? Is it in a neighborhood where it will need a cage around it to deter theives? And that’s only some of the info they need.

          About the only accurate price they could give you over the phone is the cost of the unit itself which you could also just find via a google search. The actual labor and other costs will vary by orders of magnitude depending on certain conditions.

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        I mean you are talking about stuff where someone hires someone to make something that does not exist yet? totally get that. you are not buying so much as hiring someone in that case. if it exists and does not need to be modified though it should be able to be priced.

      • Neato
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        Yeah. Like a $1,900-$4,800. I’ve seen that a lot because even w/o custom work there’s a lot of options or additional features/drawers they can add in. Sizes, etc.

        • @[email protected]
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          101 year ago

          That happens at my job, we’re instructed to not give prices cause it depends on a number of factors but I do give starting prices and make sure to repeat at least three times that’s they’re the minimums and there is no upper limit cause it depends on those factors. It’s free to have one of my licensed inspectors go out and do his thing to provide an exact number anyways. The number includes taxes too so there’s no surprises.

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    They want you to call them so their can gauge how much they can ask you/your company.

    You’re getting scammed.

    • @[email protected]
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      331 year ago

      If I’m looking at what amounts to a catalog, you better have prices, because your shit isn’t that expensive.

    • Neato
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      301 year ago

      3 star Michelin restaurants list their prices online and that’s about as exclusive as you can get. This is just hiding the price so they can try to strong-arm people on the phone.

      • @[email protected]
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        Lots of these places have discounts when you spend tiers of money. 1.5% discount if you spend 10k a year. 2.5% for spending 25k and so on kind of a thing.

        Contractor rates basically, give us business and we give you a deal. So you may pay $100, but Bob can go and get it for $90.

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          “If only there was a way to keep track of that, maybe someone in accounting could think of something. Anyone got some ideas? No? If only those computer things were more useful, could we track with those? Anyone? Damn, I guess accounting will have to keep manually tracking everything. Why do we have a website again? Oh yeah, it’s like the sears catalog on the intertubes.”

          -a company board room where everyone is 60+ and every time they want to receive an email they create a new Gmail account

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            Most of these places have vendor portals so you can see individual pricing, you can also call, some places also sell to general public, but their pricing is based off of market conditions, so a week after the catalog is out, a large portion is outdated. General public don’t have accounts and the vast majority aren’t going to sign up for one off faucet cartridge either.

            Do you think it would work for Walmart to price milk at one price the entire year for an example?

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              I think you missed this part:

              It’s like the sears catalog on the intertubes

              You know, where you can edit things quickly, or even have the price update automatically as your costs change.

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                So the issue being, everyone has their own unique pricing, and here’s the real reason, most people are friggen stupid. The customer will inevitably be logged out, and then when viewing the website get enraged when the pricing jumps 15% overnight. So when it defaults to “call or login for pricing” the customer should realize they are logged out, and they also aren’t seeing incorrect pricing leading them to go elsewhere.

                People are stupid, keep this in mind when you think of why something is probably done.

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            Yea I see a lot of software online that has their tiers and pricing for it. The only time they have a ‘call for pricing’ is when it’s truly ridiculous amounts. They’ll have like

            10 users 10 bucks 100 users 90 bucks 1000 users 800 bucks 100000 users call for pricing.

      • @[email protected]
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        Or get a sense of how little you know about the product/competition to judge how much they can get away scamming you for.

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      Yep.

      If I have to ask, I’m not going to afford it.

      Guess they think they make enough profit in gouging those who call that they don’t need to publish for the rest of us.

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    Guess i’ll take my business elsewhere. Too bad nobody else in this world sells desks 😘

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      I’d guess they don’t actually want to sell you a desk. They are probably in the business of selling hundreds of desks for offices, and this is their way of keeping out the small purchases that they aren’t targeting.

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    Even worse: when you have to call to cancel a subscription.

    I subscribed online, I should be able to cancel online.

    Of course, it’s also hidden deep in the terms of service that you can’t cancel online. They know what they’re doing.

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      Think California specifically made a law that whatever the sign up method is there must also exist that method for cancellation.

      Laws against bs.

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    There’s an art supply store Michaels, they don’t list so much as a paint brush price on their site. This combined with their incessant need to ask me for my email every time I buy even one tiny thing at their store, ensures that I’m never going there again. From what I understand the employees get in trouble if they don’t ask and get emails which is bullshit

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      I just looked and everything has listed prices on their site. I thought it was weird you said they don’t list paint brushes cause I buy them from there somewhat frequently.

      I use the Michael’s and joann’s apps for the coupons cause almost everything in those stores is overpriced. But the coupons are usually worth it.

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    Feel the same way about restaurants that don’t have prices on their menu.

    Basically assume “if you have to ask you can’t afford it” because if the price wasn’t an immediate deal breaker they wouldn’t be withholding it.

    Same with job listing, of they don’t list the salary it’s because they know that stating the salary would make you less likely to apply.