Review bombing taking place.
“CALLING IN AN EAGLE”
The aftermath looks like a cluster bomb dropped “danger close”.
THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST! Self-managed democracy
Ah yes, I see you know your Judo well.
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!
Now… Recent Reviews: Mixed
14,397 negative today, 793 positive today.
Update: 42% now… When it hits 40% it will flip to mostly negative
I loved this game but PSN isn’t available in Estonia so I’m just locked out a month from now. I don’t even want a refund, I just wanna play with my wife and friends.
Yeah. I’ve enjoyed helldivers 2 and this change doesn’t affect me personally, but I really hope they re-consider this change for players like you.
Ironically, a feature I wish DRG would add is linking PSN accounts with Steam accounts, and save importing/exporting. I played 300hrs of DRG on PS5 since it was 'free" on PS+. Now I’ve switched to PC so I can play with mods but I’m back at square one with a new save.
If you can somehow get the save files out of the PS5, you can copy them into the PC save directory
What I actually ended up doing is just starting a new save on PC and using this DRG save editor on GitHub to get back my levels and overclocks. It would be nice if this could be added as a native feature though.
It wasn’t required before? I was prompted to do it when I launched the game for the first time, and it didn’t look like I could skip it. I fumbled with it for a bit because I apparently already had a PSN account with my email when i tried to make one, and ended up having to reset the password.
Yeah you could just close out of it even though the language made it seem mandatory. I made an account, my friends did not.
It did say it was required, but it was in fact not. Tripped me up too.
There was a skip button when I installed it. I guess there was some fine print I didn’t read saying it’s mandatory lol.
I was pretty late to the party tbh (the TCS had been deployed right before I started playing), so maybe the option to skip account linking had already been removed at that point? Either that or I was distracted while going through the first time launch.
I didn’t see a skip button, either, and I got the game a few hours before the TCS was finished.
Refund request is already pending, was fun while it lasted.
Powder keg type question.
What reasons made you share a bed with nProtect but leave when it came to a publisher account linking?
Not him, but nProtect doesn’t actually work properly when playing helldivers through proton on linux. It launches but doesn’t have kernel access.
One was known to be part of the game right off the bat, so it wasn’t as much of a betrayal to me even if i dont love it.
This psn stuff was technically somewhere in the fine print, but the fact no psn account was required for all these months makes their “security” pretense even more unbelievable, especially when as you point out a very invasive anti cheat is already part of the game.
Now players such as me have spent quite a few hours leveling up, farming stuff, perhaps even spending some cash, and are now when the refund period has lapsed coerced into creating yet another intrusive and redundant account with a console company, while I don’t even have one.
I don’t own a PlayStation and by extension don’t have an account. So I have to sign up for a service I have no desire for to play?
I made an account initially, just use a junk email account
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It was expressed that this was required the whole time to be fair, it just want the case
See and that’s where they lose me. If it was truly a requirement, why disable it at all? If it’s a requirement now, why could I play before without it? I get the game had network issues when it launched so they disabled the PSN requirements at that time. They could have resolved those network issues without disabling the PSN linking. Convenient that they also sold this game in regions where PSN isn’t available and now those people are just SOL.
I know legally they’re covered, because they have disclosures on the store page and at the start of the game. I don’t care. Fuck their disclosures. This was a stupid way to handle it. They can have their legal victory, they lost a player anyways.
All they had to do is make PSN linking optional and this wouldn’t be an issue for the vast majority of people that don’t exactly trust Sony with their data. Not like they’ve had a repeated history of hacks and leaks of PSN customer data.
Well that’s horseshit.
What a great advertisement for EDF6 they’ve made with this change.
EDF is not even close in popularity, quality or replayability.
Show me another game like Helldivers releasing in the next few months then?
I’m not your monkey to be finding games for you. What’s your point.
I though the point was fairly simple, sorry for overestimating you.
If people stop playing Helldivers then they’ll likely look for another game akin to it. Only upcoming game that fits that bill is EDF.
I think people were playing the game because it was fun and for it’s quality, not for the specifics of its genre/mechanics. If people stop playing helldivers, they will probably look for other high quality, fun games, of which there are plenty.
Especially since EDF is fun, but shitty on purpose. The glitching bugs are a feature, giant frogs you fight, etc. It doesn’t take itself seriously. But you can’t call it a quality game because of that.
EDF is awesome. Maybe some folks will hop over to the starship trooper games. They’re also a blast.
But mostly I don’t think we’ll see that big a dip realistically.
Let’s be honest, most folks who play this aren’t in the discord, Lemmy, or subreddit. They’ll login and see the thing, sign up for a PSN and play.
But maybe, just maybe enough folks will review bomb or request refunds to get Sony to backtrack
But maybe, just maybe enough folks will review bomb or request refunds to get Sony to backtrack.
50k negative steam reviews in a single day is a pretty good incentive to reverse course. Thats more negative reviews in a single day then a fair amount of games recieve overall. Folks were absolutely not keen on what they viewed as a bait and switch.
As for how much it’ll impact actual numbers I think time is going to be the important factor, more particularly trending players over time… and what happens on the proverbial D-day.
Please inform any inactive / retired Helldivers to ask for a refund if their country does not support a PS account as they should not have been able to play the game in the first place.
I am unable to verify which countries are affected.
How kind of them to remind us that a live-service game is still a live-service game, and that arrowhead is still owned by a for-profit corporation.
I still plan to play, though. Wasn’t account linking already required for crossplay, or was that a separate thing?
That was separate
Are there so many non profit organizations in game development and publishing that a reminder was required?
If you take a look at its reception, the community definitely treats it like a major departure from other live service game practices. I’d tend to agree— the price, micro transactions, content and quality all seem very fair compared to other live service games in the space.
This reminds me of that GirlfriendReviews joke about multiple game stores. “You mean to tell me that instead of clicking this thingy over here to launch my game, now I have to click this other thingy over there?”
Was the account linking mentionned anywhere on steam?
It’s really feels like a new condition sneaked in…Edit: apparently it was clearly stated on steam and on the first launch of the game. I really have bad skipping habits…The “it’s to protect players against hakerzzzzz” doesn’t feel very legit.
If you read the announcement, it’s obviously a very carefully worded prepared statement from Sony that they’ve been given and ordered to pass out. The hackers reasoning is made up and just the best excuse they could come up with, Sony wants more data in their environment and they’re being forced to comply.
How else are they going to make their subscription numbers look like they are going up when no one is buying PS5s?
This is absolutely a Sony push to get more data the game was released without the need of having a ps account
But they own Arrowhead. They already have 100% of the data and telemetry.
If you make a PSN account you have to agree to their ToS, which probably lets them do more than a EULA does.
It also boosts user numbers, which looks good on paper.
No they don’t?
Helldivers 2 was produced with a Sony publishing deal, but unless I missed some news, Arrowhead is still independently owned.
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I’m keen to buy this.
Does it mean I need to create a PlayStation account to play the game ?
Yes and if you live in a region that doesnt allow playstation access - there are some - then your shit out of luck
Honestly you’re a bit late to the party. The player quality has dropped notably over the last weeks, and the gameplay is very fun but also not very varied.
A bit like playing d2 back in the day, you cleave through hordes of enemies to get more power and cleave more effectively through hordes of enemies.
If this PSN bullshit isnt putting you off feel free to of course, bit the big hype window has already passed and you can feel the decline.
In short: yes
