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HBO Max was renamed Max, and Warner Bros. Discovery lost subscribers::Warner Bros. Discovery lost 1.8 million subscribers in the second quarter of 2023 following HBO Max’s rebrand to Max. The company now has 95.8 million subscribers across all of its services.
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Keep that stock price at 12 bucks.
My 27$ per stock investment back in the day was my worst decision so far…
“I’m never going to financially recover from this”.
What happened to Cinemax?
Banshee and The Warrior are some of the best action TV around
Bad Faith podcast had an episode on the strike a couple weeks back. The guests (strikers) talked about how Zaslav renaming HBO to Max is right inline with their intent to churn out “good enough” content to increase profits rather than increase quality. They likened it to a signal to Wall Street to improve their share value.
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You literally cannot change the fucking size of the subtitles anymore, at least on Android or Chromecast. So you’re stuck with giant letters, black background. It’s the most infuriating shit of all time, HBO Max had options to change these things, I can’t believe that 1 programmer couldn’t solve this in a single day.
I feel like Netflix is the only one with a sensible default subtitle size.
Everyone else is like “Oh, you need subtitles. ARE YOU DEAF? IF WE MAKE THE LETTERS EXTRA BIG WILL YOU HEAR THEM BETTER!”
No motherfucker, I just need them because modern audio mixing is a fucking mess and actors have started mumbling. This is what happens when all the stage actors retire or die. I never had trouble understanding Alan Rickman or Tim Curry. They didn’t need subtitles. But them you get Matthew McConaughey, and he’s all “mmmhmmhm Murph” even without the spaceship engine noises, like even his fucking name is mumbled. Fuck you.
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It doesn’t help that TVs don’t include decent speakers anymore. A soundbar is a minimum, although I’ve seen those start to cheap out on the speakers too. Poor audio quality makes humans less understandable.
I had HBO in some form for 20 years, the many things they did to destroy HBO’s dna in the name of short term profit ended that loyalty.
They shelved projects people worked on, that is their professional reputation, for a tax break.
They cancelled series that legions of fans were invested in.
The CEO even crowed about how great it will be to start generating cheap to produce “reality” show garbage instead of quality content.
Insatiable, capitalistic greed just turns whatever it touches to shit. A race to the bottom.
HBO was known for low volume but high quality content. I think Apple is trying to copy them (at exceedingly low volumes), but there is really no other service in that space.
Disney+ is similar. Obviously they have the massive library of movies, but their TV shows have been fairly similar to Apple TV.
I want to pay for max so I can watch warrior season 3 and let their BS algorithm know there’s interest in it and not cancel it outright. They don’t even allow subscribers from my country UK so I have no choice but to pirate. They also have not released the season 2 bluray yet and I’m not gonna get the season 1 one if I’m just gonna end up with an incomplete collection cause this company is just allergic to taking my money.
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Sometimes. Many of their IP ranges are blocked on streaming services because they know people are using them to get around regional blocks.
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Many (most? It’s just north America I guess) countries don’t give a shit about piracy and would never allow an ISP to give out ips and personal information to companies so they could sue. So, depending where you live, no VPN needed.
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You’d need to find somewhere that doesn’t depend on ratios. Not many VPN providers support seeding ports these days
Warrior is great!
LOL you can’t even have a conversation with this name.
“Oh I’ve been watching this awesome new show, it’s so good.”
“oh yeah, where can I watch it?”
“max”
“…???..”
“it’s on max”
“what? max what?”
“it’s the old hbo, it’s just max now though”
“hbo renamed themselves to max?”
"no … but … "
“okay nevermind”
Kinda like rebranding Twitter into X
To be fair with that one, that’s purely Musk and his fascination with the letter X.
When you’re one of (the?) richest people in the world, you get to do completely idiotic things and they never have any real negative impact on your life.
Musk and his fascination with the letter X.
is the letter X really all that fascinating? I can think of a number of letters far more fascinating than X.
Like what’s up with the letter W? Shits kinda crazy, just a bunch of lines and shit.
Literally everyone and their mom is sleeping on the letter Z…
Oh, and don’t even get me started on the letter O. Just think about that for a second. Is it one line? Or 0 lines? Or an infinite line? Circles are fucking crazy bro
Given what’s going on in Ukraine and Russia I doubt many orgs want to use Z, although by that logic I’m surprised Elon didn’t pick it instead of X
X is the core component of a Nazi swastika, so theres that.
Well now we’ve heard from the stoner contingent 😛
The quality of the entire thing went down sharply too.
Right, the title implies it has something to do with the name change, which is silly. The reason Max has fewer subscribers than HBO did is that HBO was objectively better than Max is.
I also saw a lot of posts from people that just had issues even getting logged in or with opening the app itself. Honestly it’s embarrassing for such a large company to look so incompetent.
The menu configuration is nearing Amazon Prime levels of stupidity when they used to have one of the easiest to navigate.
How about they fix the fucking max app. I don’t care about the rebrand and what ever else blah blah blah. Just fix the fucking app. It’s shit on all 3 of my tvs, constantly buffering, freezing, jumping back several minutes and repeating etc etc. It’s not my connection, every other streaming service works as intended with no issues on all of my tvs.
They also didn’t have to make me download a new app, they could have updated the assets from HBOMax. Now I have to create a Samsung account to download it on my TV
Everyone of these counts, thought, you know what, we will just make our own streaming platform, how hard could it be?
now they probably realized that it’s hard, wonder how long before shit like HBO Max, Peacock, Whatever the one with with Star Trek is. How long before they just go back and license out their shit to a competent company, like they should, ideally more than one.
I used to have problems with the HBO max app all the time and would have to delete it and redownload it. Probably fucked on a tv though.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
During an earnings call, the company’s chief financial officer, Gunnar Wiedenfels, attributed the downward trend to “overlapping subscriber bases between Max and Discovery Plus” as well as “expected churn” following the end of The Last of Us season 1 and the series finale of Succession.
CEO David Zaslav had something similar to say, noting that “while we have seen some expected subscriber disruption, we have experienced lower than expected churn throughout this process” — a process that involved asking HBO Max subscribers to download a new Max app to their devices in order to continue using the service.
Zaslav has previously hinted at incorporating news and sports into Max, and rumors suggest that it could add live CNN broadcasts to the platform.
As Hollywood producers as well as writers and actors butt heads over the use of AI and streaming residuals, Zaslav said it’s “important” that the strike gets settled soon.
“We’re hopeful that all sides will get back to the negotiating rooms so that the strikes get resolved in a way that the writers and actors feel they are fairly compensated and their efforts and contributions are fully valued.”
The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers and Writers Guild of America are set to have their first meeting since the strike began on Friday.
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HBO = my brain thinks Game of Thrones, Sopranos, The Last of Us, Band of Brothers, Chernobyl. Literally decades and decades of quality premium content.
MAX = porn. My brain immediately associates the name with porn. Idk why.
For me it’s because of Cinemax - ie Skinemax - which used to be associated with the softcore porn they’d play late at night.
It always mystified me that HBO Max was even able to use that name since it was so evocative of another premium cable network.
Skinemax, the Saturday night Shannon Tweed special.
Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon
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I was a subscriber and there was no smooth move over to max. I had to keep resetting my password every time I logged in and then eventually couldn’t get into either site even moments after a reset. Eventually said fuck it and cancelled.
If it’s anything more than barely inconvenient to use your service I’ll spend my money elsewhere
Having to configure settings all over again on every single device pissed me off, especially since the new app didn’t even have subtitles customization of any kind. As someone who uses subtitles for almost all viewing, nothing turns me off of a streaming service faster than being stuck with shitty black bars and gigantic blocky text by default and being unable to change it.
And for fuck’s sake, nobody likes video previews with sound, and you can take your credit-skipping autoplay and shove it up your corporate ass.
Very dumb rebrand. I like all the trashy TLC content don’t get me wrong, but changing the name was completely unnecessary.
If you like that reality garbage, I won’t yuck your yum, but I enjoyed not having to see any of it. I miss being able to forget that shit like Obese Hoarder Wars or Little Person with 13 Kids exists.
I remember when TLC was the learning channel. Used to be awesome.
