It’s for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.
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i don’t want to start a war but sorry, office is the defacto when it comes to office work and libreoffice still have many problems with formatting and editing existing .docx files (things seem better when it comes to .xlsx and .pptx) not to mention that your documents might not look similar on both due to missing proprietary fonts.
its a good software in itself its just that its compatibility with office is a little dodgy
It’s because it’s not the native format. How does MS Office show/edit ODT documents? Does it work better?
Idk i have never worked with a complicated odt document Although, I would expect some problems because of fonts
Come to think of it. I tried that a couple months ago and The results weren’t so great.( I told word to specifically save my docx document in ODT format)
I don’t understand why ODT is complicated. It’s a zipfile with inspectible data. The standard document is also not as vendor-specific as MS OOXML which is thousands of pages that everybody gave up upon.
I think they meant complicated in the sense of having a complex document with formatting and so on (like a scientific paper)
Not that the file format itself is complex.
I meant the document (with a lot of pictures, tables, graphs, using a lot of different fonts, etc.) Not the file format.
I still don’t really know what you mean. How a document looks like depends on you. I’ve got very many fonts available, much more than average Microsoft Office user has. And it’s easier to use LibreOffice from my point of view, because it emphasizes structure. It looks much cleaner by default than MS Word. The only thing MS Word is better in is typesetting. LibreOffice simply fails to place letters properly.
Documents produced by office suites are not really good for publications. They are very annoying to handle, no matter if it’s MS Office or Libre. The cheapest option to have something professional is LaTeX.
I’d argue that no one gives a shit what the docx looks like as long as it looks good as a PDF or presentation slide.
And for that I use whatever is at hand, which mostly consists of Gsuite shit at work. Sometimes O365 for school (because NA is stupid) or work. At home it’s
Librestill Gsuite…
Meanwhile I quietly switched Ms office with libreoffice on my dads PC and he didn’t even notice.
This really depends on what she’s using it for. If she’s going to use it for anything business related, she needs a legal copy. That includes her sitting down to write the next great American novel or Sookie Stackhouse series. If she’s just needs to open recipes someone else sends her, not a problem at all.
You could tell your mom the real price of MS office. She might suddenly stand LibreOffice just fine.
i’m always amused by the reaction of my friends when i tell them that office costs $10 per month. They are all always “whaaaaat?? This POS is this expensive??”
Screw word. I’m studying Software Development, but I have to write all these management reports for various classes. I’m just writing them in LaTeX now, so it feels like I’m coding while I’m writing a paper. Implement some new fancy features every time that I than have to debug like I do with code.
It’s really easy to do actually.
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Not an expert, but I think they’re actually Latvian.
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Very insightful, thanks. All this does seem very fishy at best. Best to stick with LibreOffice then.
You can change libreoffice to have the ribbon and act more like ms office.
Go on
View -> User Interface, change to Tabbed or Tabbed Compact (or Notebookbar in old versions).
Refer to Google and YouTube.
Mass grave 🤣🤣
u can download OFFICE official ISO fom microsoft directly and use MASS to activate just take like 5 mins downloading, installing and activating.
MASS?
Is MS taking the Adobe stance on piracy of not caring unless businesses do it? How do they let this exist on the Git remote host that they own?
and you can be sure that it’s clean
Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are free to use with the web interface.
There is some functionality not available through the web apps. If you work in a corporate setting, the odds are really good that the web apps won’t be adequate for you.
One example that comes to mind is one of our clients that has us file a report once per quarter. The report is an Excel spreadsheet that can be filled but not edited. The submission demands that the file be then password edit protected and uploaded along with the password. You cannot secure files that way via the web app. We literally keep a Windows VM with the a copy of the desktop office suite, just for this client’s quarterly form.
Oh, I totally agree, but for this situation where it appears to be for personal use, the Office Online applications would probably do just fine.
If you must have MS office, then I’d go with MAS/Massgrave like others have said.
It’s well documented, requires minimal setup (if going default route), and is much less risky than going into the grey market for keys or downloading cracks elsewhere.
key resellers have office 2021 pro plus (the non subscription one) for $30.00ish (earlier versions are even cheaper) and that is what I recommend if you absolutely have to get office.
Considering the grey market is filled with dodgy keys, it’d be better to just pirate, especially when there are easy and safe ways to do it like with MAS
I’ve bought gray market keys for years without an issue. Also, good key sellers have money back guarantees
Good resellers do, but I think my point still stands - why risk any of that when Microsoft doesn’t get your money either way?
MAS/Massgrave works effectively, is open source, is well-documented, and literally free.Just found out about that today thanks
imho between the two options, the more ethical is to pirate rather than supporting a shady key reseller. Anyway microsoft gets the exact same amount of money either if you purchase a stolen key from msdn or you install a pirated copy activated via mas
At this point I think it’s more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It’s a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.
I’m not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it’s good enough.
Download office from massgrave.dev and activate with the power shell activator. Permanent activation as easy as it gets.
massgrave.dev
This appears to have worked flawlessly
There was an article that caught Microsoft’s own IT support use this script to activate a customer’s computer so I guess Microsoft approves of it.
Edit: sauce
yea can barely call it ‘effort’ more like accidentally tripped, pressed enter and now office 365 is installed ;D
