It’d be nice if they made Steamdeck available in Australia before working on Steamdeck 2.
I’m highly skeptical the hardware in the switch 2 will even be able to compete with what the steam deck already has.
The leaks say ps4/ps4 pro levels of performance + games will be optimized specifically for it so it might end up running games better than the steam deck.
Leaks say a lot things, and are almost always wrong. The idea that you could put a PS4 level of performance in a handheld with reasonable battery life is absurd.
Valve put a damn good custom amd apu in the deck, and it’s limited to 15w if they really wanted they could just slap a higher power limit and get way more performance. But then it would run too hot and it’s battery life would be practically non-existent. And considering that was a partnership with AMD to help design that I highly doubt Nintendo has magically figured out something that neither valve nor AMD knew in terms of how to get that kind of performance out of a small power budget
But it’s not just a handheld is it? I imagine they would unlock the wattage only when docked.
That still requires a cooling system capable of handling the higher power, which will make the unit bigger, heavier, and less portable
The dock could take care of that.
This just shows you have no idea how cooling works. The most you could add to the external dock will be a fan, there’s only so much a fan can do the bottleneck is that your systems cooler is simply not large enough. A fan cannot make up for a copper heat sink that is too small, take a good look at the iFixit teardowns of the steam deck and look at how much copper that thing is working with and that’s already one of the larger handhelds. You couldn’t put a ps4 amount of power through that no matter how much fan you gave it
You couldn’t put a ps4 amount of power through that no matter how much fan you gave it
The steam deck is already about as powerful as a ps4 though? Also, the switch uses arm which is more efficient.
A fan cannot make up for a copper heat sink that is too small
…yeah? It can?
100%
Nintendo is running on good will fumes from previous generations of games. Its basically the same strategy Marvel/ Disney/ Starwars, etc… use with franchise management.
I hope they make another vr headset first
Same
I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to use some proprietary connector to dock it to an external GPU enclosure on some kind of thunderbolt bus. It’s kind of a Nintendo way of making a series S and series X.
I’m all for an eventual steam deck 2, but man, I’ve absolutely loved my deck and can’t imagine a reason to upgrade any time soon. It does everything I want for now.
Only thing I want my Steam Deck to do that it can’t is force these asshat companies into removing their bullshit must be online to play single player games “feature”.
Same opinion. I bought both the original deck and the OLED variant.
I suppose I would entertain things if they came up with some kind of ARM chip more similar to the M series apple silicon, but right now, the thing is BEAST. There is just going to be a limit to how much hardware power and how much battery power can be paired and still keep the thing in the existing form factor.
My current opinion is that right now, its more/ better software that we need. I want a button based key board that works in desktop mode.
So I don’t really see a point in a major update until there is a significant hardware redesign.
The point of the Deck versus anything else was that it was common x86 architecture and it runs skinned linux, thus letting us have access to virtually all our library.
Moving to ARM based silicon would massively change things in that regard. We don’t want yet another platform to have to worry about ports for. The Steam Deck is a PC and that’s it’s goal
Id eat my underpants if there was a single thing the new switch could do that the deck could not, excluding some proprietary bullshit gimmick that the deck could probably be coaxed into.
I’ll eat mine too, but full disclosure, I wear candy-heart string bikinis
I’d join but I already ate my underwear at lunch
In this economy, you need all the fibre you can get
Ew. I’d rather just eat cotton; it would taste better.
Didn’t we just get a new steam deck…
I doubt there is anything to upgrade this cycle IMHO
That was my first thought, too.
What would a “Steam Deck 2” be in peoples minds? Less incremental changes? The repairability and modability of the Steam Deck kind of means it doesn’t have a direct comparability to console “alternatives”. Not to mention the less closed software architecture it provides.
I don’t want a Steam Deck 2. I want Steam Deck to live up to the upgradability and customizability that Valve had originally empasized for it.
It would be amazing to be able to just swap the main board for a GPU update. on the OG deck, it’s the single biggest bottleneck I run into. (for docked gaming on a big screen). Plus a better GPU would allow it to run cooler when only doing 720p and quieter on the fan.
but, Id on’t want to buy another Steam Deck :p
Half the world still can’t buy steam deck 1…
The switch is 7 years old, the deck is barely 2 years old. There no need for a deck 2.
The hardware inside the switch is 12 years old. It was old before it was born. Doesn’t make it bad, but by comparison the hardware inside the Steamdeck is actually only 2 years old.
I really hope Valve doesn’t start making small incremental changes to the Steam Deck like devices in the emulation handheld scene (Powkiddy, Anbernic, etc.) do.
I’d feel a lot less incentivised to buy one if I felt like my device was going to immediately age out. I imagine less developers would make system settings specifically for the Steam Deck like Cyberpunk 2077 did or design third party peripherals.
They have said that the steam deck 2 won’t come out anytime soon and are waiting for the tech to make it worthwhile.
That makes me happy to hear. I just want the steam deck as is so it can grow its roots deeper and allow more developers to become more comfortable with the platform. I would happily wait 5+ years for a new one to be released. Lets just keep things simple for now. Like having more supported multiplayer games, expanding access to new countries, reaching 10 million units sold, new features, 50k games verified, 5% Linux desktop market share, bug fixes, more community documentation/mods.
You make a good point. Lets not jump the gun yet here.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Now, I’m not dumb enough to think that the Steam Deck is in actual competition with the Nintendo Switch.
We all knew a Nintendo Switch 2 would happen, there just hadn’t been any real proper confirmation, until now.
Writing on social media, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa posted on May 7th:
But it feels increasingly weird to have a dedicated solid box permanently attached to a single TV.
Being able to take a much smaller device with you to play anywhere, and additionally have the ability to hook it up to a TV whenever you want just feels so much better.
The OLED design gave us enough improvements inside to various parts so thinking on what they should add in for the big number 2: a newer generation AMD APU to bring performance up, with a slightly higher resolution screen and I honestly think I would be ridiculously happy.
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They will, in due time. Such is the nature of tech world.
I’ve bad feeling about SteamDeck 2.
So far, the biggest bourdary for Valve seem to be: no 3 for software, no 2 for hardware (but we may still get a SteamDeck 1: Episode 1… if SteamDeck OLED isn’t already that)
it would be crazy if Valve didn’t produce a Steam Deck 2
They’d be crazy if they did…
a newer generation AMD APU to bring performance up, with a slightly higher resolution screen and I honestly think I would be ridiculously happy.
No, Liam. No, no, no, just no. 800p is not an accident. Using the most efficient processor was not an accident.
Asus says their biggest complaint is battery life. This is where SD reigns supreme, and you’re asking them to undo that.
If this whole Snapdragon ARM thing pans out, that’s probably the next logical evolution. Combine that with the FRORE system coolers and baby you got a stew goin!
I think Valve likes to wait until the technology has become available for the sequel to be a massive improvement in every aspect, which I can respect.
