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Curious what kind qualifies as a legal robocall.
Politicians probably allow themselves to call everyone.
A reminder about your dentist appointment.
Just expanding on this, you can robocall anyone with whom you have personal or business dealings but must cease immediately when requested.
This needs a time limitation. Just you and I transacted something back in the 1900s does not mean I should receive a robocall from you out of the blue.
There might be a timeout but I’m not sure. Much of the legislation around it is similar to what you find in the do not call registry. We live in exciting times, when incredibly outdated laws are finally being updated. Send a suggestion to your local lawmakers if you want change.
ugh, “Just *because …”``
Ya. Like this is gonna do anything. Why are we not going after the carriers? They are the ones that can do something. If you call me from a number I don’t have in my phone, I 100% will not answer. If a voicemail isn’t left or a text isn’t sent stating who you are and what you want, you will never hear my voice. It sucks that I have to screen my phone. I receive 5-10 spams calls per day some months, and other months there’s less. Not sure why. Anyway, point is it sucks and we need to force the carriers to help end this nonsense.
I have a number from outside the area codes of where I live. Block every call from the area code of my number. Like, too bad if you legitimately call me from there but the spam is too damn high.
Any recommendations for software that will auto-block numbers that do not leave a message?
What’s worse is whenever I Google the numbers I see them on lists on obscure incoherent randomly generated .ru sites which make me think they are some kind of phishing operation, but my carrier will gladly display as verified/check marked businesses complete with old/spoofed caller IDs 3-4x a day.
Completely unusable trash system, yet it’s critical national infrastructure.
Ban all robocalls, legal or illegal. If any business that needs to reach can leave a voicemail. I’ll decide then which should be deleted and which required a call back.
Not gonna help. Not accepting calls from unknown numbers and/or automated filtering is the only way forward, the model of being able to just call anyone is broken.
So, what tiny fraction of their profits does this fine represent?
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Ya I appreciate the gesture but if this truly is the “biggest” robocall racket I have to imagine a 300M fine is a dropping the bucket
Not Like they will pay it anyway.
Not like they’ll seriously be expected to.
Probably like 1%, maybe 2%
How many of you have received these calls? I got a ton of them along with my husband and siblings.
I’ve started forwarding the calls to Google voice or if i accidentally pick the call, i use bixby’s auto answer.
Either eay the call drops in a hot second.
Those were partly the reason I stopped answering unknown numbers.
On my iPhone, I have it set to silence all unknown calls. I still get a notification a call was silenced and they can leave a voicemail if they want to.
It really sucks like earlier this week when I was expecting a call from a lawyer and missed it because I didn’t have their number already in my contacts. Or when job hunting or whatever.
But it’s been really nice not to get dumbass calls that are strictly spam.
Job hunting is the worst. I have to answer every single call for a while knowing full well it’s probably a telemarketer but not having any other choice.
Same, the only time I answer my phone is when I want to mess with the spammers.
Spam callers have basically ruined telephone as a medium. For many, a phone call is more likely to be fake and spam than it is to be legitimate. And even if the call claims to come from a source you might trust, good odds it’s spoofed and thus cannot in fact be trusted.
A shame on telecoms for not being willing to tackle the problem.
Both email and the telephone have been ruined by spam for me. The inbox has become an unwieldy, inefficient mess.
I’m even getting Google Drive spam now. Complete randos “sharing files” with me. There’s no way to prevent it.
At least email has some tools to help mitigate the issue, like SPF, DKIM, and DMARC. They aren’t perfect, but they are loads better than telephony.
Plus addressing ([email protected]) is also a nice tool at your disposal. Helps track where the spam is coming from. I’ve found few/none trim it when storing addresses so it consistently works.
I’ve never gotten that to work. Did Gmail remove the ability to do it? I’m probably just dumb.
It should still work. It’s become kind of a common pattern. I’ve found it works in Proton Mail too which is nice.
Fines aren’t near enough at this point, we need public executions at a minimum to put a dent in this problem.
No killing them is too extreme. Put them in a room with 1,000 different types of ringing telephones for a week.
I like the shame bell from game of thrones.
Yes, I suppose we could beat telemarketers to death with that bell just as well as with anything else.
I guess you never saw the shame walk. Oh well.
I saw it. It’s not nearly what they deserve.
Minimum sentence should be 18 months in the company of Ramsay Bolton.
The way I see it, an alleged murderer is entitled to a trial by an impartial jury of one’s peers. However, It would be improper for victims of the deceased to serve on the jury trying the murder case.
When the deceased has continuously harassed everyone with a phone for the past 20+ years, it is impossible to assemble an impartial jury. Impossible to assemble a jury means it is also impossible to convict.
Now do political campaigns.
Shred all robo caller companies and give the owners jail time.
can we do something about homelessness, drug addiction/rehabilitation, and income support for families first? Would love 300mil for that
Idgaf about the robocallers compared to our real social issues. This is miniscule
Scam callers and all those issues you listed are probably a statistic. These assholes scam seniors out of millions (probably billions worldwide) if someone loses their money, and can’t afford their mortgage or rent, they are much likely to end up on the street.
Are you against fines or against how they’re being allocated?
whoops misread the “fine” part
Is it Duns and Bradstreet?
I don’t understand why these people weren’t in jail already!
i assume someone was making money off this, and has made enough money to get rid of them so other people don’t make money…
Yeah, I don’t get why this seemed to be such a huge undertaking. The phone companies certainly know who’s making all these calls on their networks.
The phone companies certainly know who’s making all these calls on their networks.
Exactly. If the networks faced consequences for knowingly routing and profiting off these illegal phone calls they would stop fairly quickly.
Cause they were complicit.
It’s kind of amazing how we’d been answering phones when they rang for a century, until a handful of greedy wankers like these guys and the offshore “calling from Windows” folks started doing their thing a few years ago. Now only the elderly and folks required to answer for work even contemplate picking a call up.
I got so many spam calls I considered changing the number I’ve had for over 2 decades. So obnoxious.
It’s not your number. It’s all the numbers.
I wouldn’t recommend that. I did it once for the same reason and got just as many spam calls plus debt collectors trying to reach the person who had the number before me.
Yeah I couldn’t bring myself to anyway, I’ve got an “interesting” number (think like 420-6969 but not that) that I wouldn’t want to give up…as if anyone cares about numbers anymore. But it was cool in high school!
It’s 531-8008 isn’t it.
I wish
I don’t answer my work phone anymore. Our company uses teams. So if it’s not a teams call, you can’t make me answer the phone.
I haven’t had a legitimate phone call on my work line in the last 8 years. Anyone who truly needs to talk to me has my cell number and several other ways to contact me.
$300M feels like “Ahh we caught you now, bad boys, don’t let me catch you again. Now go have your lunch.”
These people should be punished harsher for all the lives they’ve destroyed intentionally.
Good to see the FCC going after this kind of thing. Put them in jail even better.
I have my phone set up so the only numbers that chime the phone are those in my contact list. The abuse of voice and text on the cell network is rampant and it’s equivalent to trespassing.
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